Ninos Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 For whatever reason I’m still steaming over the Ipswich game ... I mentioned it in the matchday thread that Fozzy made not one not two but SIX fundamental errors prior to them scoring from their training ground practiced corner kick. Six is a lot. Three random hoofs upfield to no one, one lost header, one time totally skinned by Waghorn, one time getting beat and allowing a very dangerous cross into the 6 yard box and one time handing them the corner. You could even add the headed goal because shouldn’t he have stopped that at his side of the goal ? subsequently he gave away two horrible passes that easily could have led to goals ... saved by teammates this Defeat was as much down to one player as I’ve seen in a while. Take Fozzy out and at worst it’s a draw ... I’ve not been a Fozzy detractor and I hate singling him out but he gives corners away every game at an alarming rate and he seems so easy to beat when a winger comes at him and he goes into his sideways stance. Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? What about moving Baird over to LB, re inserting olsson Lowe or McDonald ? What are we going to do with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 He didn't have a great game no, but to say it was all his fault is harsh, we had enough chances up the other end to score more than 1 so the blame lies with all the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ram Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I agree he wasn't great. He's about 75% of the player he was before the injury, which still makes him better than Olson. I'd stick with him for now because it's only by playing that he's going to get back to the player he was. Prior to the injury I can barely recall him EVER getting beaten. Baird's a safe option but would offer little or no attacking threat down that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? Because when he's fit he's one of the better left backs in the Championship we really missed him when he got injured .I understand your frustration but he needs games and he's worth standing by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think it was time he was left out and if GR doesn't fancy Olsson and Lowe is a fitness liability then I think it's the first position to strengthen in January. Not really sure why people dislike Olsson so much, or have a love-in with Forsyth. The former is nowhere near as bad as some like to think and the latter has been shocking for most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Ninos said: For whatever reason I’m still steaming over the Ipswich game ... I mentioned it in the matchday thread that Fozzy made not one not two but SIX fundamental errors prior to them scoring from their training ground practiced corner kick. Six is a lot. Three random hoofs upfield to no one, one lost header, one time totally skinned by Waghorn, one time getting beat and allowing a very dangerous cross into the 6 yard box and one time handing them the corner. You could even add the headed goal because shouldn’t he have stopped that at his side of the goal ? subsequently he gave away two horrible passes that easily could have led to goals ... saved by teammates this Defeat was as much down to one player as I’ve seen in a while. Take Fozzy out and at worst it’s a draw ... I’ve not been a Fozzy detractor and I hate singling him out but he gives corners away every game at an alarming rate and he seems so easy to beat when a winger comes at him and he goes into his sideways stance. Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? What about moving Baird over to LB, re inserting olsson Lowe or McDonald ? What are we going to do with him? Baird was marking their goalscorer. Why not launch a vendetta against him too or would vilifying 3 players be too much of a strain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, Ninos said: For whatever reason I’m still steaming over the Ipswich game ... I mentioned it in the matchday thread that Fozzy made not one not two but SIX fundamental errors prior to them scoring from their training ground practiced corner kick. Six is a lot. Three random hoofs upfield to no one, one lost header, one time totally skinned by Waghorn, one time getting beat and allowing a very dangerous cross into the 6 yard box and one time handing them the corner. You could even add the headed goal because shouldn’t he have stopped that at his side of the goal ? subsequently he gave away two horrible passes that easily could have led to goals ... saved by teammates this Defeat was as much down to one player as I’ve seen in a while. Take Fozzy out and at worst it’s a draw ... I’ve not been a Fozzy detractor and I hate singling him out but he gives corners away every game at an alarming rate and he seems so easy to beat when a winger comes at him and he goes into his sideways stance. Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? What about moving Baird over to LB, re inserting olsson Lowe or McDonald ? What are we going to do with him? Six errors is rubbish. In order of how it happened. The first ball up the line is a clearance up the line. Nothing wrong with that. Should have done better against Waghorn, tried to see the ball out and misjudged it. The second ball up the line should never had been given to him. Had their winger on him and Waghorn closing him down, Ledley should not have given him the ball at all. If you are going to call him for losing the header what about Nugent's attempt from the his 2nd clearance, Davies feeble attempt before the first clearance, Ledley's feeble attempt just before Forsyth's header (he does actually get something on it and it goes to Davies) and Lawrence's feeble attempt after that? He didn't get skinned by the winger he jinxed a little, got half a yard of space and put a poor cross in, Davies should have done better really, should have put his foot through it. Forsyth should have tried clearing with his right foot, not sure what he was thinking there. The player that scored was being marked by the player you want at left back, Baird. Not sure what Weimann was doing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Forsyth was in the team of the week against Boro, after playing against Christie, the divisions best full back. Forsyth has been injured for the best part of two years and is still getting match fit. I agree though Olson looked good at the start of the season and it seems strange he was dropped and never seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Meh form comes and goes, I'm a firm believer in you win as a team and you lose as a team. We had more than enough chances to score 2 or more goals, just didn't happen on the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Ninos said: For whatever reason I’m still steaming over the Ipswich game ... I mentioned it in the matchday thread that Fozzy made not one not two but SIX fundamental errors prior to them scoring from their training ground practiced corner kick. Six is a lot. Three random hoofs upfield to no one, one lost header, one time totally skinned by Waghorn, one time getting beat and allowing a very dangerous cross into the 6 yard box and one time handing them the corner. You could even add the headed goal because shouldn’t he have stopped that at his side of the goal ? subsequently he gave away two horrible passes that easily could have led to goals ... saved by teammates this Defeat was as much down to one player as I’ve seen in a while. Take Fozzy out and at worst it’s a draw ... I’ve not been a Fozzy detractor and I hate singling him out but he gives corners away every game at an alarming rate and he seems so easy to beat when a winger comes at him and he goes into his sideways stance. Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? What about moving Baird over to LB, re inserting olsson Lowe or McDonald ? What are we going to do with him? You say you hate singling out a player yet you seem to find it so easy to do and not just with Forsyth. God help us if all fans did the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What about Vydra missing numerous half chances / chances? What about Davies kicking the ball backwards with an open net? We lost, missed numerous chances. It happens get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Ninos said: For whatever reason I’m still steaming over the Ipswich game ... I mentioned it in the matchday thread that Fozzy made not one not two but SIX fundamental errors prior to them scoring from their training ground practiced corner kick. Six is a lot. Three random hoofs upfield to no one, one lost header, one time totally skinned by Waghorn, one time getting beat and allowing a very dangerous cross into the 6 yard box and one time handing them the corner. You could even add the headed goal because shouldn’t he have stopped that at his side of the goal ? subsequently he gave away two horrible passes that easily could have led to goals ... saved by teammates this Defeat was as much down to one player as I’ve seen in a while. Take Fozzy out and at worst it’s a draw ... I’ve not been a Fozzy detractor and I hate singling him out but he gives corners away every game at an alarming rate and he seems so easy to beat when a winger comes at him and he goes into his sideways stance. Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? What about moving Baird over to LB, re inserting olsson Lowe or McDonald ? What are we going to do with him? If GR doesn't like Olsson it's obviously a position to be addressed in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Forsyth can be one of the best full backs in the league. On rare occasions he struggles in one off games against out and out pace but generally is solid. His crossing is usually a strength. Distribution from deeper can misfire but benefits from having a target man to play in to. All in all he's a good left back at this level and goes quietly about his business. When he has an off day you tend to notice it because he's usually reliable. Notice you're not lambasting Vydra for being wasteful in front of goal Ninos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 With wisdom available again ? we could play him at RB and Baird at LB. fozzy doesn't seem back to his best , Lowe isn't fit very often and Olson isn't my favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I blame this all on Keogh. If he hadn't been playing so well, people wouldn't have had to find another scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Lowe’s our best left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Ninos said: For whatever reason I’m still steaming over the Ipswich game ... I mentioned it in the matchday thread that Fozzy made not one not two but SIX fundamental errors prior to them scoring from their training ground practiced corner kick. Six is a lot. Three random hoofs upfield to no one, one lost header, one time totally skinned by Waghorn, one time getting beat and allowing a very dangerous cross into the 6 yard box and one time handing them the corner. You could even add the headed goal because shouldn’t he have stopped that at his side of the goal ? subsequently he gave away two horrible passes that easily could have led to goals ... saved by teammates this Defeat was as much down to one player as I’ve seen in a while. Take Fozzy out and at worst it’s a draw ... I’ve not been a Fozzy detractor and I hate singling him out but he gives corners away every game at an alarming rate and he seems so easy to beat when a winger comes at him and he goes into his sideways stance. Can someone tell me what Rowett sees in him and why he persists with him? What about moving Baird over to LB, re inserting olsson Lowe or McDonald ? What are we going to do with him? You ok hon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBustler1884 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What a ridiculous thread. We lost a game of football because between them, 11 players in a Derby County shirt couldn't put a couple of chances away. These things happen, the fact you're "still fuming" is bizarre and to single out individual players, whether it's Forsyth, Martin or whoever is incredibly childish. So tired of seeing "it's Keoghs fault" "it's Forsyth's fault", or normally with you "it's Martin's fault". Get over it, move on and concentrate on making the only difference you can - by supporting the team, and that means whoever is playing/managing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Martin, Scottish Forsyth, Scottish I think I'm close to solving what's the motivation behind this irrational scapegoating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, philmycock said: Lowe’s our best left back 100%, Forsyth can’t play the ball and Olson can’t win the ball- couple of fundamental problems there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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