Mistaram Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 15 hours ago, TuffLuff said: I wasn’t being seri....happy new year Apologies accepted have a happy new year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 20 hours ago, Beagle said: Problem with any deal you broker for Martin is the fact he signed a long term deal on bigger wages last January.So unless someone matches that he has no incentive to leave unless he wants more regular football, and the number of club's with the ability to pick up his wages is limited, short of a premiership club which is unlikely. Spot on thank Mclaren and Rush for that situation leaving Martin with all the aces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mistaram said: Spot on thank Mclaren and Rush for that situation leaving Martin with all the aces Yeah, god forbid they try and get McClaren's most important player back at the club, what were they thinking?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: Yeah, god forbid they try and get McClaren's most important player back at the club, what were they thinking?! It was Martins choice to go to Fulham on loan he was contracted to Derby and didn't have to go He only went because he couldn't dictate to Pearson how we were going to play Then dummy out of the pram and go on strike when he gets tipped off we will give him a new contract to come back Luckily Fulham didn't fall for it and made him stay Its up to you if you condone it afraid I dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 40 minutes ago, Mistaram said: It was Martins choice to go to Fulham on loan he was contracted to Derby and didn't have to go He only went because he couldn't dictate to Pearson how we were going to play Then dummy out of the pram and go on strike when he gets tipped off we will give him a new contract to come back Luckily Fulham didn't fall for it and made him stay Its up to you if you condone it afraid I dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Starting to look like a shadow of his former self Hope he starts at Old Trafford alongside Winnall, he badly needs a full 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Another one who hates the truth grow a pair open your eyes mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mistaram said: Another one who hates the truth grow a pair open your eyes mate Biting into a juicy pear is one of the joys of the season. See how to plant, grow, and harvest pears in your own backyard. They are easy to fit into small yard spaces, and attractive, and require very little care once established. Also, growing pears is generally easier than growing apples, as they have less pest and disease issues. Most pear trees are not self-pollinating so plan for at least two trees to ensure consistent fruit. There are many different types of pears; some are best eaten raw and some are best for cooking. You can also grow pears in containers—and plant at any time of the year. (Make sure you purchase pears specifically bred for containers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Saul Pimpson said: Biting into a juicy pear is one of the joys of the season. See how to plant, grow, and harvest pears in your own backyard. They are easy to fit into small yard spaces, and attractive, and require very little care once established. Also, growing pears is generally easier than growing apples, as they have less pest and disease issues. Most pear trees are not self-pollinating so plan for at least two trees to ensure consistent fruit. There are many different types of pears; some are best eaten raw and some are best for cooking. You can also grow pears in containers—and plant at any time of the year. (Make sure you purchase pears specifically bred for containers.) Have you been snorting it or straight injection mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 23 hours ago, Derbyram1983 said: No I just think people are realistic. He's been told to trim the squad. You can only sell players that are wanted by other clubs. Bigger earners that aren't first choice are the ideal players to sell. It's not an ideal world. Year on year from our accounts we are getting in more debt. This is just an example regardless who else we sell. Sell Martin for £4m and sign a striker for £1m. Profit of £3m and potentially say 20k wages. Or if bent doesn't go else where there is no need to sign anyone else. Say £30k+ off wage bill and £4m profit. We need to get rid urgently and can only sell players that other clubs want. I think you're confused between losses and debt. Our debt as at 30/6/16 was £3m,and even that might have been repaid in the last 18 months for all we know. The club showed net assets of almost £72m as at 30/6/16, and I doubt you'd find a Championship club in better health than that (and you'd certainly find a lot more far worse,including negative equity). It's well known we'd like to trim the squad,but I'm not sure we need to "get rid urgently". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, Saul Pimpson said: Starting to look like a shadow of his former self Hope he starts at Old Trafford alongside Winnall, he badly needs a full 90 minutes. What’s that then ? A shadow of a shadow ... sort of like a penumbra ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, ramblur said: I think you're confused between losses and debt. Our debt as at 30/6/16 was £3m,and even that might have been repaid in the last 18 months for all we know. The club showed net assets of almost £72m as at 30/6/16, and I doubt you'd find a Championship club in better health than that (and you'd certainly find a lot more far worse,including negative equity). It's well known we'd like to trim the squad,but I'm not sure we need to "get rid urgently". No debt, nada, zilch. That's straight from the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mistaram said: Another one who hates the truth grow a pair open your eyes mate Hates the truth? Sorry for not believing idle speculation that is just thrown out there. You give me some sort of proof so I can open my eyes to your truth. Not sure what growing a pair has to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Good as he is (and he’s shown his quality at times this season) Martin is now our Plan B. Very useful to have, difficult to replace without spending a lot of money. He is also the most valuable in monetary terms of all our fringe players. If Rowett wants a major signing this window then Chrissy will have to leave. It would be great to keep him but he’s an asset we can cash in on to help the team in other areas and it’s not fair to him being second fiddle when he’s still one of the best centre forwards in the league. If we do sell him then I hope it’s to Wolves as we’re not going to catch them anyway. I’d be nervous if we sold him to a Leeds, Sheff U, Bristol etc - could be just what they need to get promoted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'll be very surprised if Martin isn't sold in January after his lack of time recently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeDerby said: I'll be very surprised if Martin isn't sold in January after his lack of time recently! I'd be tempted to loan him out to burton so he can help them stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: It would be great to keep him but he’s an asset we can cash in on to help the team in other areas and it’s not fair to him being second fiddle when he’s still one of the best centre forwards in the league. Unfortunately, just sat on the bench, he's an asset whose value is depreciating under Rowett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 If promotion is the primary aim, I wouldn't sell him in Jan. I'd rather he sat on the bench with a mardy face than loan/sell him to a rival at this stage If one of the other strikers get injured we'll be glad that we have another established Championship striker to call on. It's a long stretch now till the end of the season and historically this is where we struggle, so depth of squad is crucial Yes it would be nice to addsome more flare or some more pace but if we don't need to sell Martin to add that then why bother? If we do get promoted, we can sell him to a Championship team for a few mill anyway in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Surely if we sold CM it frees up wages to allow us to pursue another target> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, secretsquirrel said: Surely if we sold CM it frees up wages to allow us to pursue another target> Without being rude...That's obvious mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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