GerryDaly Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 43 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: We should have kicked on from 10 games undefeated? How many other teams in the division have had unbeaten runs that long? Was you expecting us to go the rest of the season undefeated? Not really sure what this silly 'SAINT STEVE' rubbish is all about? Ten games undefeated against who ? And when ? When the really BIG games arrive SAINT STEVE is AWOL .... The SAINT STEVE is because of posters like you ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, GerryDaly said: Ten games undefeated against who ? And when ? When the really BIG games arrive SAINT STEVE is AWOL .... The SAINT STEVE is because of posters like you ..... Leeds and Norwich and Sheffield weds in those 10 games. Given where those teams are now, they'd have been big games, no? The inconsistencies are infuriating. We have proven we can turn up. But equally we have proven we can implode unexpectedly. The fact that mclaren is as nonplussed by some of our performances as I am bothers me I'll be honest. Does he really understand these players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, HantsRam said: The inconsistencies are infuriating. We have proven we can turn up. But equally we have proven we can implode unexpectedly. The fact that mclaren is as nonplussed by some of our performances as I am bothers me I'll be honest. Does he really understand these players? He can't deal with the inconsistencies, that's down to the players surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, GerryDaly said: Ten games undefeated against who ? And when ? When the really BIG games arrive SAINT STEVE is AWOL .... The SAINT STEVE is because of posters like you ..... You're embarrassing yourself. Even during the good run, McClaren was careful to play things down, saying not to get carried away and take things a game at a time. Unfortunately, a lot of fans decided to ignore that and get carried away, that is how we end up with silly reactions like we are seeing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryDaly Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Leeds and Norwich and Sheffield weds in those 10 games. Given where those teams are now, they'd have been big games, no? The inconsistencies are infuriating. We have proven we can turn up. But equally we have proven we can implode unexpectedly. The fact that mclaren is as nonplussed by some of our performances as I am bothers me I'll be honest. Does he really understand these players? Leeds and Norwich we scraped .. scraped .. home wins if I remember.. .. and we always beat Wednesday at PP .. I think Steve got lucky on that run ... meeting clubs at the right time ... My point remains ... If the season had started on say Decemeber 25th ... where we were sitting in the table and with our run of fixtures coming up ... I would've taken it and taken us for the play offs ...... Steve has found yet another way to balls it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, GerryDaly said: Ten games undefeated against who ? And when ? When the really BIG games arrive SAINT STEVE is AWOL .... The SAINT STEVE is because of posters like you ..... Big game we beat Wednesday Leeds Norwich Reading. Hardly AWOL. Also I don't understand these saint Steve thingy? Let me tell you this 10 games unbeaten run Sheffield Wednesday(H) 2-0 Wolves (A) 2-3 Rotherham (H) 3-0 Norwich (H) 1-0 Wigan (A) 0-1 Forest (H) 3-0 QPR (A) 0-1 Fulham (A) 2-2 Birmingham (H) 1-0 Wigan (H) 0-0 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryDaly Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Big game we beat Wednesday Leeds Norwich Reading. Hardly AWOL. Also I don't understand these saint Steve thingy? Let me tell you this 10 games unbeaten run Sheffield Wednesday(H) 2-0 Wolves (A) 2-3 Rotherham (H) 3-0 Norwich (H) 1-0 Wigan (A) 0-1 Forest (H) 3-0 QPR (A) 0-1 Fulham (A) 2-2 Birmingham (H) 1-0 Wigan (H) 0-0 ? well SAINT STEVE can do what he wants for as long as he wants at DCFC on the back of that massive run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 In a strange way a mid table finish will do us good. It's a reality check. 13/14 convinced a lot of people that we were a Prem team. I think there has been around the club a sort of undeserved entitlement. What has happened since has been glossed over by management changes, panic buys when Hughsey and Bryson got injured along with a lack of consistency that has been there all along. I doubt there is a team that can play with such evident quality one week and look lethargic and average the next. Where we finish this year will be a truthful statement of how good we are .. The relevance of a poor start is secondary after that storming run when Mac came back. we are where we are on merit .. Players need to look hard at themselves and Mac needs to rebuild the core of the team. It won't be a turn the clock back. Times have changed as have players. Let's experiment for the rest of the season, learn and then sort the recruitment out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Some posters did get carried away during the good times. All that's happened is a poor poor run. Win a few and it'll feel better. Probably be too little too late for play offs (which will anger some, but will elicit a shrug from most, including me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Papahet said: TBF, Mcclaren having a whole summer to sort this squad out actually fills me more with worry than anything else The same Mcclaren/Evans combination who brought in Leon pissin Best to act has the Martin cover? Lee Naylor anyone? What about good ol' Shott's? Is Ssewankambo still around? Whitbread, Warnock, Albentosa.. I really won't be too excited about the summer "sorting it out" with these lot recruiting, shambolic if past experience is to go by. Whitbread was a Nigel Clough signing, we just sacked Clough as the deal was complete. Warnock was a good signing at the right time, he just had a terrible start to his Derby career and couldn't recover. Albentosa is a La Liga player and scored against Real Madrid last season, he just couldn't play in our system. Lee Naylor and Leon Best were totally underrated (ok they were god awful really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, MackworthRamIsGod said: Whitbread was a Nigel Clough signing, we just sacked Clough as the deal was complete. Warnock was a good signing at the right time, he just had a terrible start to his Derby career and couldn't recover. Albentosa is a La Liga player and scored against Real Madrid last season, he just couldn't play in our system. Lee Naylor and Leon Best were totally underrated (ok they were god awful really). Whitbread was.actually Sam Rush signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, GerryDaly said: Steve has found yet another way to balls it up. I know, relegation was looking so good back in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 CRISIS?????????? Crisis is when you are on the edge of going out of going out of business Crisis is when you are on the edge of relegation Crisis is when youve won the premiership one year and sacking your manager the next As none of these applies to the Rams then NO we arent in crisis Have we got a hard core of negative fans YES you bet This coming closed season is probably one of the most important that we have faced for many a year Steve has a massive job moulding/creating HIS team rather than trying to manage a team where most of the players were signed by the 2 previous manages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Why does Will Hughes escape any criticism whatsoever, whilst all around him get slammed. He's been garbage for the last half dozen games but it seems Johnson, Bryson, Russel, Butterfield etc.. get picked up on every mis-placed, sidewards, backwards, upwards or downwards pass that doesn't meet with the fans approval. Particularly the latter on this list who has for me has been the best of an indifferent midfield. MOM against Burton for example, and wrongly subbed against Villa. Me thinks rose coloured specs where WH is involved. Will Hughes ever do wrong in a Derby shirt??? .....see what I did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, RoyMac5 said: He can't deal with the inconsistencies, that's down to the players surely? I didn't explain my thought very well. Clearly there will be a whole number of factors that affect a players performance on any given day. I think the management team need to be close enough to the players to be able to detect any adverse change that might affect their performance. Leicester were using psychologists last season who used all sorts of techniques to make sure players were optimally ready on match day. If manager was armed with that data then they can make adjustments to the team. Sure they can't be mind readers but anything that can increase your chance of putting out a winning team has to be worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoollyJumper Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Not in crisis this week, as I'm in Kalgoorlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 To The Arch Deacon Agree with your assessment of Butterfield, particularly in the last 3 or 4 games but are you saying that those negative, sniping so-called fans who have been so quick to criticise and pan the likes of Russell, Johnson & Bryson should now focus their vitriol on Will Hughes? Maybe, just maybe, instead of criticising we should try a little bit of support - you never know but it might help but then that would go against the grain for those posters who seem to have vendettas against some of our players. Not a dig at you by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Can't help but think some of them aren't fit or playing carrying injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, RadioactiveWaste said: Can't help but think some of them aren't fit or playing carrying injury. Think that's bang on. Last time I think we looked a really fit side in 13-14. Cloughies last pre season. Since then we seemingly collectively run out of steam and pick up niggly injuries. Mac was also not so hot on managing players back from injury eg George Thorne in early 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ramalot Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 43 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Whitbread was.actually Sam Rush signing. Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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