Parsnip Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Does signing Nugent suggest that - A: Martin isn't coming back and B: Promotion is very much our #1 target this season? (As oppose to last season when we apparently didn't want promotion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, sage said: So we can have an opinion about a signing, but only a long time after we have signed them. People are having opinions about unsubstantiated rumours. It's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 i guess all signings come with a risk factor , and hindsight is a wonderful word ..but imho i wish we could recuperate the money spent on Blackman and Vdyra ..i respect Blackman is injured but 1 goal in 21 appearances for us and Vdyra 2 goals in 17 ..imo i think Nugent as proved he knows where the net is please look at his stats i personally wouldnt mind seeing him with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, eddie said: People are having opinions about unsubstantiated rumours. It's pathetic. It is on the website of 4 different national papers. As rumours go it is a strong one. You have also just given your opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 No thanks but then ... can't be worse than Blackman and Vydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Nugent can play in lone striker role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, Saturn5 said: No thanks but then ... can't be worse than Blackman and Vydra Nugent better than Blackman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Nugent better than Blackman. FFS well yes. Blackman makes me wonder what it takes to be a footballer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, RoyMac5 said: FFS well yes. Blackman makes me wonder what it takes to be a footballer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Very clever move if we can get Nugent for £2m. It weakens Fulhams position considerably on the CM situation. They can no longer play on us being light in the forward positions. Only consolation they can take is they can fart as much as they want now. They won't smell it because they've cut their nose off to spite their face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Perhaps once he's fit, we find Nick Blackman playing up top is just the thing we always needed? Might happen, apparently he looks ridiculously good in training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, Parsnip said: Does signing Nugent suggest that - A: Martin isn't coming back and B: Promotion is very much our #1 target this season? (As oppose to last season when we apparently didn't want promotion). Martin will be coming back but maybe not until the summer in which case signing a 31 year old might make some sense as a short term fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Seems pretty likely http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-striker-david-nugent-closes-12423902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, sage said: So we can have an opinion about a signing, but only a long time after we have signed them. Not sure why you've decided to pick an argument. Of course you can have an opinion about a signing before we've signed him. Knock yourself out. But an opinion of a player a long time after we have signed them (informed, observed and quantitative and qualitative evidence of how they have performed for Derby County) might be more valuable than an opinion before he has actually signed (speculation, based on pre-conceieved ideas of how we have seen him play against us or on the tele). I prefer to wait and see, or at least hope and expect that the player might turn out great even if I have reservations. Anyway, I think you've missed a bit of my original point, which was not aimed at you, and I can't be bothered to reiterate. I would just add to this though that the original comment I responded to (not yours) was ful of sweeping generalisations about how bad our transfer business has been under Mel and all those, oh so inciteful criticisms (its never anything else but), but actually, is that true anyway? Plenty of signings made under Mel have been fair, good or very good. Some stinkers, in hindsight, but there always are.... in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, PistoldPete2 said: Martin will be coming back but maybe not until the summer in which case signing a 31 year old might make some sense as a short term fix. Which makes me think this deal (if true) would make so much more sense being a loan deal rather than a permanent transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'd actually prefer Bamford to be honest. Thought he was very good here before and that's when he was played out of position. He was then played down the middle at Boro and did even better. He clearly hasn't cut it in the PL and he must surely be thinking after two or three failed moves at lower PL sides that he needs to swallow his pride and drop back down to score some goals. He's a massive bellend but so is Lansbury and I'd like us to sign him. I can understand the move for Nugent, although I'd be underwhelmed. I'll presume that this means Martin isn't coming back this season. We'll use the loan fee on getting Nugent, Fulham fork out for a player that won't be playing for them and then Martin comes back to take Bent's place at the end of the season. Could be worse, could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, LazloW said: Not sure why you've decided to pick an argument. Of course you can have an opinion about a signing before we've signed him. Knock yourself out. But an opinion of a player a long time after we have signed them (informed, observed and quantitative and qualitative evidence of how they have performed for Derby County) might be more valuable than an opinion before he has actually signed (speculation, based on pre-conceieved ideas of how we have seen him play against us or on the tele). I prefer to wait and see, or at least hope and expect that the player might turn out great even if I have reservations. Anyway, I think you've missed a bit of my original point, which was not aimed at you, and I can't be bothered to reiterate. I would just add to this though that the original comment I responded to (not yours) was ful of sweeping generalisations about how bad our transfer business has been under Mel and all those, oh so inciteful criticisms (its never anything else but), but actually, is that true anyway? Plenty of signings made under Mel have been fair, good or very good. Some stinkers, in hindsight, but there always are. To be fair I joined in an argument that you started. Though I prefer the term'debate'. Bris's argument was not based on the player themselves but the type of player. Most fans have a pretty clear idea of the type of player Nugent is and most have a good idea of how we play. I don't think it's a massive leap of (un)faith to link the two ideas to form an opinion on the signings suitability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, eddie said: People are having opinions about unsubstantiated rumours. It's pathetic. People are only rumoured to be having opinions about unsubstantiated rumours - it's yet to be confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Perhaps once he's fit, we find Nick Blackman playing up top is just the thing we always needed? Might happen, apparently he looks ridiculously good in training? I appreciate Nick Blackman hasn't had a good start but I think he may well come good playing down the middle given a chance. On the thread I also think Nugent's experience and know how will be worth a punt..... most teams get players to just to help get them out of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Remember Nugent debut for Pompey at Pride park - absolutely useless Then he always seemed to score against us He consistently scores goals at this level which again is more than can be said if Blackman and Vydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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