Sexydadbod Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Is it me or has it been over the top? A lot of people in the media have criticised us and Mel Morris for appointing McClaren who is widely seen to be past it, a few examples include Alan Shearer and Jamie Carragher in his article for the daily mail. Carragher particularly criticised us for not appointing Ryan Giggs and almost blames people like McClaren for blocking the pathways for young managers like Giggs. It's easier said than done when it isn't your club, I guarantee that at least 90% of Derby fans wouldn't want Giggs here Carra because he hasn't done anything in a managerial sense to earn it. I watched him as a pundit during the England games and he has such a boring voice who probably couldn't motivate a goldfish. We went down that route with Clement and it wasn't particularly a success, at least we know what we will get with McClaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 At least with giggs we'd be able to believe the manager was 'having a go on the players wives' stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Who cares ! As long as we're happy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 minute ago, RiddingsRam said: Who cares ! As long as we're happy ! Indeed, want Mac to be a success here to shut the media up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Does seem to have received a lot of negative press, hardly surprising because on the face of it it's a completely ludicrous appointment. However once you start to analyse it a bit more, it could be exactly what we need, a great coach to get the best out of the talent we've brought in over the last year and get them playing as a team, which is arguably more important right now then any sort of tactical genius imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Hopefully these so called experts will have egg all over their smug faces come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 The world outside has such a dismissive attitude to Derby County it baffles me. I'm not sure about bringing McClaren back, but the blowback has been completely over the top. I think it has as much to do with Mel's Derby way of doing things as it does "he'll bring us success" As for Giggs - why the hell should he get a top job just because he's Giggs??? Swansea looked at him but had a better option. Man U clearly are not going to give him the job unless he proves it somewhere. If Giggs wants a career as a manager, he's going to have to take a small job and makes a success of it then get a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't give a crap to what the likes of them say about our club then ? i never pay any interest too there clubs so why should they ours. return of the Mac let's have his back and start climbing the league too where we should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 If he get's us promoted they will be the first to say what a great decision it was to bring him back. I'm surprised carragher realised there's a league below the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 We've tried the young aspiring head coach route. We have tried the grizzled no-nonsense veteran manager route. We're where we are because these routes haven't worked. That said, we and mac must be wise enough to make sure that he is surrounded by people who compensate for the things that he doesn't do well. As for blocking talents such as Giggs, that's completely unproven. Plenty of very good players who made terrible managers. ......****cough****Colin todd ******cough***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 15 minutes ago, McLovin said: Is it me or has it been over the top? A lot of people in the media have criticised us and Mel Morris for appointing McClaren who is widely seen to be past it, a few examples include Alan Shearer and Jamie Carragher in his article for the daily mail. Carragher particularly criticised us for not appointing Ryan Giggs and almost blames people like McClaren for blocking the pathways for young managers like Giggs. It's easier said than done when it isn't your club, I guarantee that at least 90% of Derby fans wouldn't want Giggs here Carra because he hasn't done anything in a managerial sense to earn it. I watched him as a pundit during the England games and he has such a boring voice who probably couldn't motivate a goldfish. We went down that route with Clement and it wasn't particularly a success, at least we know what we will get with McClaren. Not really because from the outside we've re - picked a guy who failed to get us promoted twice with a good squad, failed at wembley with an extra man, who botched up England botched up Newcastle. They're not living in our shoes having to watch Clement and Pearson football. It's fair to criticise but who cares if we play well and win. If we don't there will be a media feeding frenzy on him and us. and I totally agree on the pundit stuff - Giggs don't seem too football savvy on there in terms of analysis either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 minute ago, HantsRam said: That said, we and mac must be wise enough to make sure that he is surrounded by people who compensate for the things that he doesn't do well. Powell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, McLovin said: Is it me or has it been over the top? A lot of people in the media have criticised us and Mel Morris for appointing McClaren who is widely seen to be past it, a few examples include Alan Shearer and Jamie Carragher in his article for the daily mail. Carragher particularly criticised us for not appointing Ryan Giggs and almost blames people like McClaren for blocking the pathways for young managers like Giggs. It's easier said than done when it isn't your club, I guarantee that at least 90% of Derby fans wouldn't want Giggs here Carra because he hasn't done anything in a managerial sense to earn it. I watched him as a pundit during the England games and he has such a boring voice who probably couldn't motivate a goldfish. We went down that route with Clement and it wasn't particularly a success, at least we know what we will get with McClaren. What's really getting on my nerves is how shallow these negative articles are, with very little analysis of the situation. They all essentially boil down to making 5 points: 1)Mac was sacked by Derby before 2)Mac was sacked by Newcastle 3)Need more young Managers 4)Ryan giggs is a young manager 5) Mac = bad, Giggs = good, Derby = joke There is incredibly little in these article to back up those points. Little to no discussion about why Mac was sacked or why it wouldn't be a good idea to rehire. Little to no discussion about why we need young managers coming through.Little to no discussion about why Ryan Giggs would have been a good fit for Derby or why he is a good coach. It's just garbage journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 ill just leave this here . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminphilippines Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, McLovin said: he has such a boring voice who probably couldn't motivate a goldfish. I think this was a major problem with both Clement and Pearson the way they speak just has no motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 You get criticised whatever you do in football these days, always loads of laughing hyenas on Twitter and Facebook with no lives ready to post up. Most of these muppets follow sides that have never even won anything so who ******* cares? As for Giggs, what experience does he have to show he can any of these jobs? He should go prove himself first, you don't just walk in to big jobs in life with no experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Wouldn't surprise me if Giggs was gett No his media chums to put out these articles in the hope that some gullible owner will give him a job knowing that the media will then be on their side. Carra is pretty on the money usually so I can't see why else he'd be making daft points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Whatever happens in the coming weeks, months etc... I hope he's given time and not seen as a stop gap. Also, if he does well, sticks around instead of sniffing around a slightly bigger club with a superiority complex. Longevity please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 And why is Giggs entitled to a premier league or championship job? Same thing with Neville and a top la liga side and look how that panned out. They need to go manage a lower level side first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ninos said: And why is Giggs entitled to a premier league or championship job? Same thing with Neville and a top la liga side and look how that panned out. They need to go manage a lower level side first. Hey, he made cups of tea for Van Gaal so he must have all of his ability by proxy. Come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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