G STAR RAM Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, Whoneedshuls said: Am I the only one who doesn't give a crap to what the likes of them say about our club then ? i never pay any interest too there clubs so why should they ours. return of the Mac let's have his back and start climbing the league too where we should be. Don't remember Carragher shouting up for Giggs instead of Klopp. No mention of foreign managers blocking the way for the young talented British coaches/managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 48 minutes ago, McLovin said: Is it me or has it been over the top? A lot of people in the media have criticised us and Mel Morris for appointing McClaren who is widely seen to be past it, a few examples include Alan Shearer and Jamie Carragher in his article for the daily mail. Carragher particularly criticised us for not appointing Ryan Giggs and almost blames people like McClaren for blocking the pathways for young managers like Giggs. It's easier said than done when it isn't your club, I guarantee that at least 90% of Derby fans wouldn't want Giggs here Carra because he hasn't done anything in a managerial sense to earn it. I watched him as a pundit during the England games and he has such a boring voice who probably couldn't motivate a goldfish. We went down that route with Clement and it wasn't particularly a success, at least we know what we will get with McClaren. how do you know you represent the views of 90% of supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepshedram Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Shearer managed 8 games, took Newcastle down and hasn't dipped his toe in the water since. Who has Carragher coached or managed? I drive a car every day, but I'm not an expert on engines. The football careers of these esteemed experts doesn't seem to have given them the broad range of skills needed to coach and manage successfully - a far wider range of skills than just playing the game. As such, their opinions on Maclaren for DCFC have no more worth than any comment I might make on engines...in other words they can b*****s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Carragher should be applauded for holding down a prominent role on British television with absolutely no concept of the language. I was banging on about wanting a young manager last week - but I definitely wasn't referring to Giggs or Neville! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Didn't we get a load of stick first time because he was a failed, past-it manager? Didn't work out so bad, did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 So we give the managers job to an Englishman and get criticised for not giving it to a Welshman (even if he did play for England juniors) if the likes of Giggs want to be a manager go and do it at the clubs with few supporters and no money where you have to sell your best players every six months rather than coming from the utterly spoiled life of a TV 'big club' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, brady1993 said: What's really getting on my nerves is how shallow these negative articles are, with very little analysis of the situation. They all essentially boil down to making 5 points: 1)Mac was sacked by Derby before 2)Mac was sacked by Newcastle 3)Need more young Managers 4)Ryan giggs is a young manager 5) Mac = bad, Giggs = good, Derby = joke There is incredibly little in these article to back up those points. Little to no discussion about why Mac was sacked or why it wouldn't be a good idea to rehire. Little to no discussion about why we need young managers coming through.Little to no discussion about why Ryan Giggs would have been a good fit for Derby or why he is a good coach. It's just garbage journalism. I wonder why Giggs hasn't landed a job yet. There have been quite a few opportunities since he left Man utd. Could it be that he doesn't come across as any good? Swansea interviewed him apparently. Didn't impress enough for them. Those Man Utd types remind me of all those 'actors' who owned 'Planet Hollywood'. They think their names are enough to deliver success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarrowRam Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Let's hope mcclaren can shove the criticism down their throats when we start climbing the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, blackNwhites said: Whatever happens in the coming weeks, months etc... I hope he's given time and not seen as a stop gap. Also, if he does well, sticks around instead of sniffing around a slightly bigger club with a superiority complex. Longevity please! Yes, I hope he's not a stop gap if we win and win. If we don't I hope he's stop gap. Cake eat. Have cake too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, barnsley ram said: how do you know you represent the views of 90% of supporters We could have a poll if you like asking whether people on this forum would have preferred Giggs as our manager instead of McClaren. I'm pretty confident that the majority would say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 2 hours ago, McLovin said: Is it me or has it been over the top? A lot of people in the media have criticised us and Mel Morris for appointing McClaren who is widely seen to be past it, a few examples include Alan Shearer and Jamie Carragher in his article for the daily mail. Carragher particularly criticised us for not appointing Ryan Giggs and almost blames people like McClaren for blocking the pathways for young managers like Giggs. It's easier said than done when it isn't your club, I guarantee that at least 90% of Derby fans wouldn't want Giggs here Carra because he hasn't done anything in a managerial sense to earn it. I watched him as a pundit during the England games and he has such a boring voice who probably couldn't motivate a goldfish. We went down that route with Clement and it wasn't particularly a success, at least we know what we will get with McClaren. What has Giggs done in management to earn the right to be considered a proper candidate for any championship team im sure there are plenty of lower league clubs who would love to give him a chance stupid me fancy forgetting his wage expectations plus isnt there a law forbiding a club owner having involvement with another club?. Derby chose the best manager available within their budget.But these so called experts who live breath premiership forgot the small thing called FP system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 It will be good call, if he brings results to the table. If not we know what happens then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Balls to the criticism. What do they know? About the same as the rest of us. Nobody knows how this will all pan out so lets get behind Shteve and the lads and make it happen!! COYR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Mcclaren gets a bad press cos he was england boss... Everyone does even Bobby robson. Also shearer still thinks he should be newcastle manager. I stated he has to make a living by talking sh1te on the BBC and tw@tter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manicsheepreacher Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I read many of the remarks and thought they were completely absurd. None of them alluded to the fact that McClaren has been at the heart of most of the best football seen at Derby for the past 20 years. Shearer? A mag, he has to walk the party line and loath the ground Macca walks on. Savage? He just resents the fact it was Eustace playing in that Wembley side and not him. The rest simply don't know enough to even warrant listening to. Macca is probably the most unfashionable manager around, which will make it all the more enjoyable, should we experience any success. I for one, am delighted. He should never have left in the first place. Make no bones about it, The Derby Way is ver much The McClaren Way. Am excited again. Bring on Leeds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Who cares The media have had it in for schteve since his England days and wally with the brolly. We've had the dutch accent, the live on tv moments and the micky taking when he was in charge of newcastle he's a good manager and good fit for us, he has his faults and if he didnt he'd be managing barcelona or united Shearer, carragher & savage are all slagging him off but can they name a more sucessful English manager in the last 15-20 years that is still active? Final of a UEFA cup, won a league cup and won a league abroad. They all laugh at him but i cant think of a more sucessful english manager in recent times. Granted its partly down to the pool of english talent and opportunities they dont get but its still a fact. He's won trophies big sam hasn't, harry only won a FA cup the rest have won nothing. soooo if they want to reword it we've appointed the most sucessful english manager in recent times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I don't know if this has been posted anywhere but my attention was just brought to this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/14/steve-mcclaren-admits-he-made-grovelling-apology-to-get-derby-co/ by John Percy. "Grovelling" is a bit strong in my opinion, especially when he doesn't use any word close in any of the quotes. Doesn't really help with all of the over-the-top criticism of both Derby and McClaren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I don't know if this has been posted anywhere but my attention was just brought to this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/14/steve-mcclaren-admits-he-made-grovelling-apology-to-get-derby-co/ by John Percy. "Grovelling" is a bit strong in my opinion, especially when he doesn't use any word close in any of the quotes. Doesn't really help with all of the over-the-top criticism of both Derby and McClaren Isn't Percy a Gump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NellyRam Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 The Macs back, that's all I care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 4 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Powell? Fingers crossed. If powell can spot a player and organise a defence we should be laughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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