toddy Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 19 hours ago, brady1993 said: Whilst he wasn't at his best this season, I just want to point out if you take a look at the number of touches and passes he had whilst on the pitch this season it is much higher than any other striker in the squad (which are all woefully low with Bent, Wilson and Vydra all frequently under 20 touches a match). To me this (along watching when he played) implies he was still trying to get on the ball quite a bit and your statement is not entirely correct. Understand where you are coming from, but he is paid to put the ball in the net and has declined to do this since April 5th. We do need to move on without Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 11 hours ago, toddy said: Understand where you are coming from, but he is paid to put the ball in the net and has declined to do this since April 5th. We do need to move on without Martin. No we don't. Vydra hadn't put the ball in the net either - did we need to move on without him?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No we don't. Vydra hadn't put the ball in the net either - did we need to move on without him?! You are loyal bloke Roy, good on you but Vydra is a different animal with a lot more to his game than Chris. I honestly think we had seen the best of him and that too many teams had found him out, read his game and knew how to counter his strengths. He wasn't showing much willingness to change what he does. i liked him but things change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No we don't. Vydra hadn't put the ball in the net either - did we need to move on without him?! Apart from that once that he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I'm still watching this wardrobe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I'd still take Chris Martin over any other two strikers in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 1 minute ago, needles said: I'd still take Chris Martin over any other two strikers in the squad. Over Bent and Blackman? If so I agreed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, needles said: I'd still take Chris Martin over any other two strikers in the squad. I'm not so sure on that ! I'm liking the look of Vydra ! Still early though I suppose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 18 minutes ago, jono said: You are loyal bloke Roy, good on you but Vydra is a different animal with a lot more to his game than Chris. I honestly think we had seen the best of him and that too many teams had found him out, read his game and knew how to counter his strengths. He wasn't showing much willingness to change what he does. i liked him but things change Vydra has different things to his game - when defenders figure out he has pace will he be finished? Things change I agree and perhaps that's why we should re-assess where the goals will come from. That's the hardest bit and we have a mighty fine goal-scorer and goal assists provider in Martin - £6m or £9m worth of your finest English pounds, but no just toss him aside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 19 minutes ago, RiddingsRam said: I'm not so sure on that ! I'm liking the look of Vydra ! Still early though I suppose . I'd like to have my cake and eat it - Vydra and Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I do honestly get where you're coming from but don't quite agree. Chris scored some great goals in the classic Mac 433 team with John Eustace sitting behind Bryson and Hendrick, the pair of them running on to the wiley fountain of chances Chris provided. That set up was a top 6 championship group. But we are 3 years on. My VHS was great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: No we don't. Vydra hadn't put the ball in the net either - did we need to move on without him?! But has has done so unlike, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Could our Season have a Hollywood ending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Anyone tweeted that at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 2 hours ago, wixman1884 said: Could our Season have a Hollywood ending? i'll take a happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 8 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Anyone tweeted that at him? Someone on twitter ought to, that's a work of genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I think a lot of you are forgetting that his attitude may have been a factor of why Pearson wanted to get rid of him, and not his current perfomances? He wont be back for Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jon_Grooves said: I think a lot of you are forgetting that his attitude may have been a factor of why Pearson wanted to get rid of him, and not his current perfomances? He wont be back for Derby *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 12 minutes ago, Jon_Grooves said: I think a lot of you are forgetting that his attitude may have been a factor of why Pearson wanted to get rid of him, and not his current perfomances? He wont be back for Derby This is the same bloke who thinks Bryson is a deep lying midfielder and Butterfield is a winger, so I won't put too much stock on his opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Anon said: This is the same bloke who thinks Bryson is a deep lying midfielder and Butterfield is a winger, so I won't put too much stock on his opinions. errrrr no its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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