Mafiabob Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 15 minutes ago, JW37 said: We got results under Clement hence ending up top of the league on boxing day. But the style of play was too rigid and negative resulting in unhappy players, fans and most importantly the owner. Mel has openly said performances over results so in terms of Derby at the minute yes passing it 5000 more times than Birmingham is important. Clement was a risk and Rowett is also a risk. So if we're playing well and we are getting beat consistently and in a relegation battle (hypothetically of course) do you really think Mel wouldn't have an itchy trigger finger... And fans have the paitence for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 And if we go up with Daz and 'Arry .. What then ? Does he destroy Wassels self esteem and bring in an established manager or do we end up with a "director of football" scenario ? despite being hugely opinionated on most things I have no flipping idea who would work for us except to say that the only Championship manager whose style is clearly what we would enjoy is Eddie Howe. I just don't think we've seen enough to be sure Rowett could do what we want let alone be a Prem manager .. I like him, he ticks some boxes but is he the manager that has DCFC written in Day glow paint on his forehead. ? .. I would be happy if he was appointed but wouldn't bet too much on him taking us forward to a promised land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 21 hours ago, Derbados said: Ugh, no thanks. Warburton, all day long With Warburton, you get what you see with nowt taken out. He will most likely stay at Rangers but maybe he could be tempted by a lot of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW37 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Mafiabob said: So if we're playing well and we are getting beat consistently and in a relegation battle (hypothetically of course) do you really think Mel wouldn't have an itchy trigger finger... And fans have the paitence for it? We didn't win for the first 5 games this season was it? And he constantly said performances over results and promotion doesn't matter. Obviously a lot has changed recently but I think the performances over results thing still stands, especially next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Derby get the £90,000 for tickets from Florest. Apparently paid to us by Football League and then deducted from Florest's cash allocation from Football League according to East Midlands TV allegedly. Next year if we have not left them one or two divisions behind, we should ask for the cash in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, JW37 said: We didn't win for the first 5 games this season was it? And he constantly said performances over results and promotion doesn't matter. Obviously a lot has changed recently but I think the performances over results thing still stands, especially next season. Doesn't really answer my (hypothetical) I'm asking do you really think he wouldn't get rid if we were down in a relegation battle despite "performing" well..... He got rid of Clement when we were 5 points off top! And do you think fans would have paitence? I know what you're saying... But at end of it for me... Getting results is what matters... Just wished we hadn't panicked getting rid of Clement with the minor blip we had, which admittedly is results based but thought very rash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Let us hope that the performance against Hull represents the Derby Way and that we are at least aiming to continue in similar fashion until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 2 hours ago, jono said: And if we go up with Daz and 'Arry .. What then ? Does he destroy Wassels self esteem and bring in an established manager or do we end up with a "director of football" scenario ? despite being hugely opinionated on most things I have no flipping idea who would work for us except to say that the only Championship manager whose style is clearly what we would enjoy is Eddie Howe. I just don't think we've seen enough to be sure Rowett could do what we want let alone be a Prem manager .. I like him, he ticks some boxes but is he the manager that has DCFC written in Day glow paint on his forehead. ? .. I would be happy if he was appointed but wouldn't bet too much on him taking us forward to a promised land I think if we go up in some style, Wassall will deserve a chance because when we were in that dreadful run at the end of Clement's reign, I couldn't see where the next win or the next half-decent performance was coming from. At least the rot has been stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Boycie said: What are the bookies saying atm? Who's current favourite? Still Rowett? Yes sure is @Boycie, but funny that steve Bruce is now the same odds as wassall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Not a very inspiring list, Avram grant, AVB, Gus hiddink, Alan Pardew, Martin Jol, Mark Hughes, Dick Advocaat, Fabio Capello, Martin O Neill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I am kind of with you there Eddie. My own feeling is that if we go up it will be in style because post Clement we either win in style or look dire. I think we have lost the ability to win ugly .. ( secretly I am quite pleased about that ) cue dscussion about the Derby way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 47 minutes ago, jono said: I am kind of with you there Eddie. My own feeling is that if we go up it will be in style because post Clement we either win in style or look dire. I think we have lost the ability to win ugly .. ( secretly I am quite pleased about that ) cue dscussion about the Derby way Up the hill, left at the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Disappointed neither O'Neill nor Laudrup make the Derby list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 8 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: No a chairman who sacks a manager he believes to be underperforming with the players at his disposal. It had nothing to do with wanting to change the structure it was a structure that was working fine in league 1 for both parties and for the first part of the season. Whether you agree on the decision or not it had nothing to do with structure it was solely down to statistics and algorithms. The same statistics and algorithms which allowed Brentford to sign some brilliant unknowns on the cheap. aware of their"way". But to push manager out for massively over achieving at such a tiny club, and getting them three games away from Prem was amazing. I refer to a structure That took such a decision way before the end of the season. That is madness ..... He had nt failed until they never progressed through the playoffs. And any structure tat calculates they were good enough for automatic promotion is frankly a flawed system. MASSIVELY flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Disappointed neither O'Neill nor Laudrup make the Derby list. Put some money on Laudrup. Hey presto - he'll be on the list next time you look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 7 hours ago, igorlegend said: aware of their"way". But to push manager out for massively over achieving at such a tiny club, and getting them three games away from Prem was amazing. I refer to a structure That took such a decision way before the end of the season. That is madness ..... He had nt failed until they never progressed through the playoffs. And any structure tat calculates they were good enough for automatic promotion is frankly a flawed system. MASSIVELY flawed. But this isn't what you originally said. You said he left because he disagreed with the structure. One similar to ours. When in fact he didn't have a choice in the matter so how could he have left over the structure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 1 minute ago, IlsonDerby said: But this isn't what you originally said. You said he left because he disagreed with the structure. One similar to ours. When in fact he didn't have a choice in the matter so how could he have left over the structure? How is it similar? They wanted to do a Moneyball approach with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Srg said: How is it similar? They wanted to do a Moneyball approach with football. I never said it was similar that was igorlegends words I was using... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Wolfie said: Put some money on Laudrup. Hey presto - he'll be on the list next time you look. I'm surprised about that. Laudrup was on the list a few months ago- maybe he has ruled it out or has another job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I thought it was surprising that Swansea have a manager lined up for the summer, and he isn't named Brendan Rodgers. Maybe Rodgers is waiting to see if we are promoted. Promoted and we get Rodgers, stay down and we get Rowett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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