Chester40 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Players 'not being fit enough' really must be the most regularly trotted-out load of rubbish when a new manager comes in. All clubs will concentrate on testing fitness, and monitoring BMI, oxygen levels, heart rate levels, miles covered in training, etc. I can believe however that PC didn't want eg Hendrick bulking-up for vanity and so took weight machines out...thus irritating players and is just another gripe that surfaces when results don't go the right way. They looked fit enough until Boxing Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 There's probably a bit of truth to the fitness issue and I would think the style of play contributed , the way we used to play in matches ie fast movement ,, off the ball running and closing down on the ball produced fitter players naturaly in a match situation ,, we slowed right down under clement and tried to roll it round ,, maybe the style of play reduced fitness levels and in Spanish. Football that was ok but in the blood and guts championship we couldn't cope if sides got in our faces and out worked us ,,, just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Reithe glas said: I think it refers to the phenomenon that occurs when your wife, girlfriend, partner, acquaintance, or sex worker is giving you a Bradley Johnson and the enormity of what's happening strikes them on the back of the throat causing them to "lollygag". You can always tell when someone isn't, or never has been, married! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 This would explain a lot. I've often been watching us questioning where the energy is? I guess we were spoilt by how fit they were under MAC. We knew that in the last 10/15 we would come alive where as now games just play out at a pedestrian pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 In other news Paul Clement has been blamed for Derby County's recent demise as he did not allow "Tubthumping' and 'Simply the Best' to be played in the changing room before a game. Clement is said to have introduced house/electronica music into the pre-match conditioning routine, being something he picked up in his time in France. Daft Punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 1 hour ago, i-Ram said: In other news Paul Clement has been blamed for Derby County's recent demise as he did not allow "Tubthumping' and 'Simply the Best' to be played in the changing room before a game. Clement is said to have introduced house/electronica music into the pre-match conditioning routine, being something he picked up in his time in France. Daft Punk. This is the closest statement we have to Clement actually speaking about his sacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhysbeck Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Hmm that one still doesn't make sense to me.. he could've just been trying to get them excited / motivated for the Euros in France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 2 hours ago, i-Ram said: In other news Paul Clement has been blamed for Derby County's recent demise as he did not allow "Tubthumping' and 'Simply the Best' to be played in the changing room before a game. Clement is said to have introduced house/electronica music into the pre-match conditioning routine, being something he picked up in his time in France. Daft Punk. Harder, better, faster, stronger training methods and there'd be no lollygagging excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 15 hours ago, BottrillRAM said: I personally think it should be down to the players to sort their own fitness out! No chance! What a stupid thing to say! What if a player goes to a meathead gym and tears a muscle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I don't buy all this, George Thorne is pretty fit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Id of thought fitness training would be similar across the board but slightly different dependant on your position/ type of player you are and weaknesses. Id expect a target man & cb to be doing more weights & strength and wingers be doing more sprints 90% of the fitness training maybr being the same and the other 10% being on the type of player you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Title should be not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Not fit enough? three goals in the last ten minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: Not fit enough? three goals in the last ten minutes. Maybr Brentford removed their gym altogether, and replaced it with a bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 42 minutes ago, reveldevil said: Maybr Brentford removed their gym altogether, and replaced it with a bar? Sounds like me when I tell my missus I'm going to the "gym". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 22 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: if you missed it, it came out in the Breakfast club. Mel had invested a pretty penny in some weight frames cos the players loved them. Someone, under Clement's control removed all but one of these, and put them in storage. This led to SEVEN senior players eventually being that concerned by their own condition, that they sought external fitness coaching/training with PTs and 3rd party Gyms. Personally, I think this would lead to lack of belief in the manager and coaches and explains quite a bit to me. Thanks Mostyn. Really interesting post. It seemed there had been some sort of fundamental disagreement when they let Clement go without having anyone lined up to replace him and stuff like this sheds light on why that might have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reithe glas Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 7 hours ago, philmycock said: Harder, better, faster, stronger training methods and there'd be no lollygagging excuses. Our work is never over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 22 hours ago, cosmic said: It's telling that under McClaren we always looked capable of wearing teams down and scoring in the "last 10 minutes of the 95" as he used to phrase it. We'd be all over teams by the latter stages of the game, and that's when you'd hear Ramage come out with his "something great is happening here at Derby County" line. Our strength was there to be seen. I don't think this season I've once felt confident of our quality and athleticism shining through late on in games. I just hope we've got enough in the tank to last the rest of this campaign without embarrassing ourselves. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Wassall said Haines had the boys for fitness all week and had done great, we scored 3 goals in the last 10 today? So much for Karl Halabi and his physical performance stats. Much better today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 19 hours ago, philmycock said: Lollygag! That's a new word for me, is it from a Jimmy Saville dictionary? US English, similar to "slacking off" or "dawdling". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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