mwram1973 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I'd prefer to go back to when Clement was in discussion to be appointment. I'm very intrigued as to what Clement said and if any of it was utter bullshit to just land the job. Like none of us ever did that in interviews eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, StaffsRam said: Not a loaded question, but who WAS the last owner to leave us completely debt free? Genuinely cannot think who it would be. No idea either, by debt free I mean not in the position Bolton or Forest have ended up in, owing millions to an owner in the form of loans. I'm quite confident Mel wouldn't do that, btw, just feel the best you can hope for is the owner leaves the club in a better state than they found it. Success on top of that would be a bonus, but I'm not as hopeful as most that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hope Mel is not fooled. I think the vote would of been 100% if this poll was done and clement was still in charge. A lot of people (me included) do not like the idea of having a chairman who gives the manager little time. I fear he has the mindset of Cellino. We shall see how long he gives the next guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I do back him of course, but I do not trust or believe anything he says anymore. He needs to take a few steps back and leave the coach to get on with what he knows and does best. Do not buy a dog and bark yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'd love to cross reference the people that don't back Mel, with the people that would give Jewell another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have no confidence in the owner.I was one of the first if not the first to call for Jewell to go,and took a lot of stick for it.1 person wanted to meet me,to kick my head in. Funnily enough in the end Jewell wasn't sacked,he fell on his sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Wolfie said: Promotion is important because it's the only way he's ever going to recoup any of his investment - if he ever intends to walk away. It isn't top priority this year though. He'd rather we build a strong team who play entertaining football, capable of staying in the Prem. He sees this as preferable to going up unprepared and coming straight down & having to re-build again. You may noy be aware but the teams in the relegation zone in the Prem.are spending loads of cash to stay up (except Villa).The teams at the top of our league are doing the same. Why? because next season The new Sky deal with the Prem kicks in. Its a record sum,Billions. Worth gatting there and getting our share.If we get relegated,so what?We get parachute payments as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, SaintRam said: I'd prefer to go back to when Clement was in discussion to be appointment. I'm very intrigued as to what Clement said and if any of it was utter bullshit to just land the job. Why do you want to go back that far? Nothing Mel said about PC in 2015 can give you any doubt that PC was doing a great job through that time. Have you not listened to Mel's gushing appreciation of PC on Sky (with Max Rushden) mid-December? Mel then goes out early January and buys his guy another couple of players. Something happened after this point that changed the dynamic between the two. Now I am no Columbo, but if I was interested in investigating this sorry case I think I would focus my attention on the timeline of 21.35 on 12 January 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 90% is pretty definitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, top 6 finish said: You may noy be aware but the teams in the relegation zone in the Prem.are spending loads of cash to stay up (except Villa).The teams at the top of our league are doing the same. Why? because next season The new Sky deal with the Prem kicks in. Its a record sum,Billions. Worth gatting there and getting our share.If we get relegated,so what?We get parachute payments as well. You're right. I did not know any of that. Thank you for pointing out my ignorance. Sarcasm filter melted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Seems to me MM has taken all pressure away from the staff and players which is a clever tactic. Whether it will lead to goals galore and free flowing football is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: Seems to me MM has taken all pressure away from the staff and players which is a clever tactic. Whether it will lead to goals galore and free flowing football is another thing. Somehow convinced myself too that was what the not having to get promotion this year was all about, removing pressure from whoever is running the team would be a wise move for any owner. The myth crumbles a bit when he sounds so convincing, because it doesn't compute with what most fans would want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Would he come back after the way he was sacked? Mel, sometimes the grass isn't greener.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Agree. It may be though that he has many years experience of man management annld knows how DW and the players tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 14 hours ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: 90% is pretty definitive 88.57%. I know there's at least one more popular chairman in Eastern Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Dimmu said: 88.57%. I know there's at least one more popular chairman in Eastern Asia. Tories won the General Election when all the opinion polls pointed to Labour except the one that mattered . Ask a question in a certain way and you get certain answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 58 minutes ago, curtains said: Tories won the General Election when all the opinion polls pointed to Labour except the one that mattered . Ask a question in a certain way and you get certain answers. this is not a democracy we don't vote for the Chairman and this one has a significant landslide far in excess of the example referred to. Reword it you may get 80/20 but you would still be in a significant tiny minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 19 hours ago, SaintRam said: So you're saying the question is wrong because the specific opinion that you want to voice cannot be voiced by the answer you give to the question that's been put forward? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Just now, rammieib said: Yes. Well I want people to know that I like cake, so i think the question should have been "Despite all the commotion at the club, do you still like cake?" I'm now angry that it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Just now, SaintRam said: Well I want people to know that I like cake, so i think the question should have been "Despite all the commotion at the club, do you still like cake?" I'm now angry that it wasn't. However - taking the conversation back on track - there are different questions that could be asked all on a similar topic but all slightly different. I've got no interest in poll after poll but I honestly think if people were asked if he's doing a good job, more people will say no but they overall support him still. Personally - He's had his six months, he's not cut the mustard - time for him to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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