Philmycock Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Sammon deserves his chance, he's been professional and patient all season, a true pro, let's get fish feeding Saturday, we can always bring on 2 more forwards if we need to, onwards and upwards!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 so in summary, people still want effort over results? WOW, I'd hoped we'd shaken off this mentality now we've changed manager. I'm shocked! At a point in our season where we need results, people want someone who barely influences a result! AMAZING!! Some people look at the picture without resorting to using polarising lenses. It's not about picking someone who might score - it's about picking someone whose net contribution is that the team is more likely to score. I daresay now that your retort will be "It didn't seem to help yesterday" - to which I will reply "I know who didn't go". See? I've saved us a whole conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I like Sammon, but I think it's a good chance for Bamford to show his capabilities in his natural position. Bamford for me. Dawks and Russell outwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pej1956 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Dawks and Russell were disapointing yesterday. Sammon, Ward and Bamford for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Bamford up front for me Grant Wisdom Keogh Buxton Forsyth Eustace Bryson Hughes Dawkins Ward Bamfordj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pej1956 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Bamford up front for me Grant Wisdom Keogh Buxton Forsyth Eustace Bryson Hughes Dawkins Ward Bamfordj Sammon for Dawkins and I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammie002 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Don't know why people are suggesting a change of formation, bad enough not having our focal point of attack. Think SM will try keep things as similar as possible and put Sammon up top as direct repalcement. Unsure on who he would play out wide, personally would go for Russell and Ward. Would also bring back Bryson to the starting line up for Eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Dawks and Russell were disapointing yesterday. Sammon, Ward and Bamford for me I think the conditions for those two yesterday were poor though, they never really had much of a chance to get at Burnley and didn't have much support. However, our worst spell of football (attractiveness wise) recently has come with Bamford and Ward on the wings while our best spell of football (Bournemouth second-half has come with Dawkins and Russell on the wings. Russkins all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 If we play Bamford or Russell up top we will have to change our entire style of play as neither can hold the ball up and bring others into play like Martin can. Can't see the manager doing that, so Sammon it is. Apparently Bamford can hold onto the ball and wait on support quite well according to MK fans. Yeah, I don't believe it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I'd start Dawkins Ward Russell. Ward has been ineffective recently out-wide; i would like to see him recapture his form and this is a great opportunity in a position that he (normally) plays well in. He was best last season when playing in a more forward role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I'd like us to appeal against the sending off before we even have to consider his replacement. Having watched it again and again, it's clear the ref got it very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Ignore that. I've just read in another thread that's not possible. Erm I'd go Sammon for first half and Bam Ban second. The Fish deserves a chance for his patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I wonder if the people suggesting Sammon should start are the very same people who groaned when Heskey was selected for England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 This is the problem. If we want to play the same shape/style we don't have a direct replacement for Martin. The more I think about it the more indecisive I am. Sammon would give the physicality to combat Millwall's CB's. But Bamford's all round play is better however Bamford would be easily be muscled out. It's not as easy as saying talent (Bamford) over effort (Sammon). As we know in this league natural talent does not always succeed against brute force. I wonder if it's worth a system and style change, playing 2 up front as we have no player who can hold the ball up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I've voted for Bamford, cos as much as people say he goes missing, that's because we've never plate him in his natural position. Yet he's still stuck them in. I'd love to see what he can do in his natural position. Having said that, there's a lot to be said for playing Sammon there too. Better target man. So probably a case of trying them both at different points. To be fair they've both played wide at various points, so you could have them both start, and swap positions. Maybe? No. I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 This is the problem. If we want to play the same shape/style we don't have a direct replacement for Martin. The more I think about it the more indecisive I am. Sammon would give the physicality to combat Millwall's CB's. But Bamford's all round play is better however Bamford would be easily be muscled out. It's not as easy as saying talent (Bamford) over effort (Sammon). As we know in this league natural talent does not always succeed against brute force. I wonder if it's worth a system and style change, playing 2 up front as we have no player who can hold the ball up. This is the dilemma, do you play the best players or the best team? Its not necessarily the same! The object is to win the game so the manager will have to decide which group of available players gives him the best chance of winning that game. This is where Mac earns his corn by running through the options on the training ground before making his decision. I can make the decision whilst running through the options of what to have for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Can't go with Sammon. He is just so completely 'different' (PC answer) to Martin that we would have to change the way we play completely. And that's not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Sammon was brilliant in the first 20 in the 4-3-3, definitely him, he was fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I'd like to see Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 so in summary, people still want effort over results? WOW, I'd hoped we'd shaken off this mentality now we've changed manager. I'm shocked! At a point in our season where we need results, people want someone who barely influences a result! AMAZING!! This is such a blinkered view mostyn and I usually respect your posts and enjoy reading them. If you believe Bamford is better then that's fine - if you believe he should play that's also fine. What isn't fine is you questioning the mentality of fans who disagree with you - that isn't okay. I was a massive fan of Heskey in the England team. England always played better when he was a foil. Sammon has come off the bench, fed off scraps and scored a couple of very important goals. I'd go for him because of this. I do agree with the point you stress in many other articles about not rating players on their secondary duties ie fullbacks on attacking, wingers on defending etc.... And I think we can afford to 'carry' Bamford when he is on the side of the front three because Eustace or Thorne should be able to come over and cover. I think this point becomes invalid when playing centrally as part of a forward three - the central striker is there to score goals AND act as a focal point/ physical presence. Sammon provides the physical presence, Bamford provides the goals ... Unfortunately for Bamford we are capable of goals from all over the pitch however we cannot get the physical presence upfront from these other positions. Bamford offers goals but he's not GUARANTEED to score which makes it a tough call. Even so I'm certain McClaren will edge towards Sammon though it wouldn't surprise me if he goes for something none of us have suggested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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