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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from May Contain Nuts in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    What was needed was to get the club on to an even keel from the start. The oh we have problems here let’s wallpaper them over with this, oh more problems more wallpaper please. Then when the wallpaper tore different things were used to cover up. Mel you cannot keep just keep covering up for ever eventually you have to do repairs or the whole thing will fall down and now loothey have.
    Why do business men lose all business acumen with football clubs. Football clubs are different, people do not fall in love with Sainsbury’s or Mark’s and Spencer’s, if starbuck’s or McDonalds folded people may miss them but they would not grieve them.
    Football clubs become entangled into the very souls of their fans. You have to have responsible acting people to safeguard them, Derby this time around were not given that luxury and the fans are paying the emotional cost.
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Patrick Rams in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from derbydaz22 in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  4. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from 48 hours in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  5. COYR
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Reggie Greenwood in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  7. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Dean (hick) Saunders in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Ted McMinn Football Genius in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  9. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  10. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Sheff Ram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Ewe Ram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  12. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Kathcairns in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  14. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Orphanram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  15. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from norwichram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
  16. Like
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Carnero in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
    There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
         There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
          The dangers that wait to assail you.
    Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Raich Carter in Is the EFL punishment process correct?   
    As has been said on here Mel Morris made a high stake gamble with the future of Derby County. In fact it was more like Russian roulette with more than one chamber containing a bullet. He lost and the consequences for the club will be dire. If Derby had beaten Villa in the play off final the gamble would perhaps have come off and Villa may have been going through this torture. But to have the very existence of the club dependent on the outcome off one game is too much. 
     
    Fans understand sometimes a club has to speculate to progress and would support that and maybe even demand it. But, you can only do that if you have a reliable back up plan if it does not work out. You take a chance to get out of this league but to make it a make or break gamble is too much. Mel Morris has failed not because he took a gamble but because he made the gamble an all in one with no contingency plan. That is where the incompetence lays.
     
    The EFL has rules and rules have to have sanctions applied if they are broken otherwise rules are useless. It may be argued EFL rules are useless anyway, but everyone is signed up to them.
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Miggins in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Administration can be a new beginning, there are examples of clubs that have been through it and fully recovered. What Administration is not though is a golden ticket, it is the start of what can be very dark days at a club. What is more essential than anything is that at the end of it the club is owned by someone or some consortium that has the interest of the club at heart and have the intelligence and capability to formulate a realistic plan for the climb back.
    As has been mentioned all football related debts have to be paid first, failure to do this will result in the EFL removing the golden share, without that you cannot compete in any of is competitions.
    The next problem is the HMRC, they are below football debts in priority and they hate it. They will issue winding up orders and they do this frequently in pursuit of the money they are owed. Normally clubs come to an arrangement but that arrangement does not include any reduction of the debt. They have to be paid and paid in full and they are relentless. Then come everyone else, all the small businesses and contractors and ancillary staff and they get screwed, they get the small crumbs that are left.
    At other clubs there have been examples of players and managers tearing up their contracts to help the club, not many do that but it has happened. Wayne Rooney maybe someone who could leave the club in a good light by doing this.
    Administration is the first step into a dark period, with it come massive restrictions on what you can spend and that applies for a period after you have come out of it. Administration may be the first step into darkness but good management thereafter can find the light again.
     
     
     
  19. COYR
    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Inverurie Ram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Administration can be a new beginning, there are examples of clubs that have been through it and fully recovered. What Administration is not though is a golden ticket, it is the start of what can be very dark days at a club. What is more essential than anything is that at the end of it the club is owned by someone or some consortium that has the interest of the club at heart and have the intelligence and capability to formulate a realistic plan for the climb back.
    As has been mentioned all football related debts have to be paid first, failure to do this will result in the EFL removing the golden share, without that you cannot compete in any of is competitions.
    The next problem is the HMRC, they are below football debts in priority and they hate it. They will issue winding up orders and they do this frequently in pursuit of the money they are owed. Normally clubs come to an arrangement but that arrangement does not include any reduction of the debt. They have to be paid and paid in full and they are relentless. Then come everyone else, all the small businesses and contractors and ancillary staff and they get screwed, they get the small crumbs that are left.
    At other clubs there have been examples of players and managers tearing up their contracts to help the club, not many do that but it has happened. Wayne Rooney maybe someone who could leave the club in a good light by doing this.
    Administration is the first step into a dark period, with it come massive restrictions on what you can spend and that applies for a period after you have come out of it. Administration may be the first step into darkness but good management thereafter can find the light again.
     
     
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Indy in Embargo.   
    You need proper owners in football to succeed. It starts at the top if you are owned by clowns you end up being a circus. Leeds for example had a succession of joker owners and ended  up as a laughing stock for 16 or so years. A succession of small clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford have succeeded recently due to good leadership. If you get professional leadership who are invested in progressing a football club and the football club is their main focus and not personal agendas and ego trips that club will prosper. Match good leadership with a big club and  Derby are that and there is only one direction you go and that is up.
     
     
     
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from r_wilcockson in Embargo.   
    You need proper owners in football to succeed. It starts at the top if you are owned by clowns you end up being a circus. Leeds for example had a succession of joker owners and ended  up as a laughing stock for 16 or so years. A succession of small clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford have succeeded recently due to good leadership. If you get professional leadership who are invested in progressing a football club and the football club is their main focus and not personal agendas and ego trips that club will prosper. Match good leadership with a big club and  Derby are that and there is only one direction you go and that is up.
     
     
     
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from CBRammette in Embargo.   
    You need proper owners in football to succeed. It starts at the top if you are owned by clowns you end up being a circus. Leeds for example had a succession of joker owners and ended  up as a laughing stock for 16 or so years. A succession of small clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford have succeeded recently due to good leadership. If you get professional leadership who are invested in progressing a football club and the football club is their main focus and not personal agendas and ego trips that club will prosper. Match good leadership with a big club and  Derby are that and there is only one direction you go and that is up.
     
     
     
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Abu Derby in Embargo.   
    You need proper owners in football to succeed. It starts at the top if you are owned by clowns you end up being a circus. Leeds for example had a succession of joker owners and ended  up as a laughing stock for 16 or so years. A succession of small clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford have succeeded recently due to good leadership. If you get professional leadership who are invested in progressing a football club and the football club is their main focus and not personal agendas and ego trips that club will prosper. Match good leadership with a big club and  Derby are that and there is only one direction you go and that is up.
     
     
     
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from 48 hours in Embargo.   
    You need proper owners in football to succeed. It starts at the top if you are owned by clowns you end up being a circus. Leeds for example had a succession of joker owners and ended  up as a laughing stock for 16 or so years. A succession of small clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford have succeeded recently due to good leadership. If you get professional leadership who are invested in progressing a football club and the football club is their main focus and not personal agendas and ego trips that club will prosper. Match good leadership with a big club and  Derby are that and there is only one direction you go and that is up.
     
     
     
     
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    Bladderwrack got a reaction from Derby blood in Embargo.   
    You need proper owners in football to succeed. It starts at the top if you are owned by clowns you end up being a circus. Leeds for example had a succession of joker owners and ended  up as a laughing stock for 16 or so years. A succession of small clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford have succeeded recently due to good leadership. If you get professional leadership who are invested in progressing a football club and the football club is their main focus and not personal agendas and ego trips that club will prosper. Match good leadership with a big club and  Derby are that and there is only one direction you go and that is up.
     
     
     
     
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