Mostyn6

Can anyone remember what league position we were in when Rosenior was relieved of his duties? I've got 10th in my head. I also seem to recall fans spitting feathers about how abysmal Rosenior's Derby were when playing away from Pride Park. 

IN the current situation, I'm thinking the reason Warne is still manager is Derby are well-placed in the league. 5 points off a play off place and 8 points off 2nd place. With 96 points to play for.

Whilst the football is not brilliant, we are still winning games (won 6, lost 5). Many experts would state that winning ugly, and when not playing well is a positive thing, and gives room for improvement.

Personally, if we keep winning 1 and losing 1, it's better than drawing both, we are still in the race.

3 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

Surely everyone has learned that no one wins from war by now

I'm sure I'd be happy if I had shares in weapons manufacturer. Definition of wins. 

https://clowes.co.uk/2022/07/01/breaking-news-clowes-developments-takeover-derby-county-football-club/

July last year, it was announced that David Clowes had bought Derby County. Saving the club from disappearing into the ever-growing abyss of crushed football clubs.

I cried that day. I didn't think it was bothering me that much. As an adult in his mid-40s, I found myself resenting the amount of money I've "squandered" following Derby County around the country. I can probably count all the enjoyable moments as an adult on my fingers and toes, but there are plenty of bleak and miserable memories, from watching Jim Smith's magic-touch fade, Colin Todd's reputation dwindle, John Gregory's over-confidence implode, Phil Brown trying to reinvent the wheel, Paul Jewell signing everyone he could, to Nigel Clough being too negative to try and win. That's before Uncle Mel came along with his mad rollercoaster.

A few years ago I decided to squander my money on playing Golf badly instead of football, beer, gambling and a curry every Saturday, that made me think I was detached from it all, that I'd cut the ties that only a few years earlier had me desperately scrambling for away tickets for 0-0 draws at places like Preston on a Boxing Day!

I'd consider myself an armchair radio/TV fan nowadays, and my stress level and general health has been much better. 

I no longer live in Derby/Derbyshire, which has left me further detached from the club and fellow Rams fans. But from this forum over the last few days, I'm feeling some real rage towards Warne, and maybe even Clowes. It's worse that any time on this forum. Even Pearson had more support! 

Am I the only one who, whilst disenchanted with performances, and perhaps football in general, doesn't really feel Warne needs sacking?

Or am I still just glad we have a club to talk about?

I think some of the people so enraged by Warne could do with taking a step back and a deep breath.

AS for Clowes, he jumped into Shark-infested waters to drag us back onto the muddy bank, shame on anyone critical of a man who had no ambition to own DCFC, only duty.

Disgruntled fans could do with finding a way to contribute to the growth of the club, not the demise.

57 minutes ago, Sidd10 said:

Keep Warne with current feeling = 22/23k attendances and probably limping towards 16k season tickets next year

whilst a good point, the cost of paying off Warne would probably offset any difference of revenue avoided by getting rid of him.

fans who treat managers like this bring deserved bad luck onto the club and the fans who don't deserve it.

Behave with class. 

It's one thing asking for better from the club, but to behave like entitled and unrealistic whingers is another.

Bristol Rovers have sacked Joey Barton - less than 48 hours after he called rival boss Steve Evans "fat man" and a "weeble".

😄

29 minutes ago, MaltRam said:

I let a lot of what you say on here slide Mostyn, because I feel that, like myself, you may not be the full 9 yards at times...but you should hang your head in crying shame for having typed that. Shame on you.

Which bit do you take issue with?

1 hour ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

 

I find his face smug and annoying and I can't look past it.

Fits perfectly with his character in the remake of Italian Job?

.but....but..... but.... they're now playing without fear!

2 hours ago, Wolfie said:

I've never found Edward Norton to be a great leading actor

thought he was awesome in American History X and even Fight Club, however the less said about his Hulk, the better.

8 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

both Bolton and Blackburn looked established at one point.

I can recall the year after we were relegated, the then chairman of Bolton, the late Phil Gartside(?) suggested, and rallied for the EPL to become a closed shop and remove all relegation and promotion. He must've known what was coming for them!

there's not enough pics of awesome pets in this thread lately, and far too much nonsense from the owners of awesome pets.

Sort your shizzle out @David @Boycie and others.

52 minutes ago, Boycie said:

I’m not stealing @Mostyn6’s limelight. I’m sure he’s seen them on Facebook too.

 

Don't mind me duck. You was first. More the merrier. Your dog looked happier than Ralph. Ralph becomes paralysed when dressed. 

16 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

I really do not thinks someone who does laughter emojis about 1,400 Jews being murdered, raped and mutilated is in any position to lecture anyone about what is or isn't anti-semitic. 

1400 most likely means 140, which is still too many. Not unlike Israel to twist facts. 

Just out of curiosity, have you read any of the articles or listened to any of the interviews posted on this thread? I think you should read the link alpha posted earlier. 

3 hours ago, David said:

Managed to get tickets for the Liam Gallagher Definitely Maybe tour, Thursday in Manchester standing 🙌

annoyed, payday in next Friday, so never stood a chance today.

14 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

take out militant terrorists

how do they decide who is, and who isn't a militant terrorist?

This is the big question.

35 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

British Jews I have spoken to feel strongly that Israel is often made the scapegoat. And feel strongly that they are acting in self defence. So criticism of Israel affects Jews who are not living in Israel.

why?

Why are British Jews concerned about "opinions" of/on Israel? I do not understand this if they are not Israeli. Is this a downstream affect of everyone being told that criticising Israel is anti-semitic?

38 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

But that’s not all he said is it? We’re as bad as the Daily Mail (not like them to emphasise one element of an interview to have a snipe at the BBC 😀) if we extract one small portion in order to distort an interview.

To note, I am not defending either side in this conflict (I’ve said before, there don’t seem to me any good guys - just villains and innocent victims) and certainly not Israel’s past treatment of the people of Palestine or their current response but if the Israeli president, as part of an interview, criticised the BBC for their reporting then I hardly think this is greatest crime committed in the appalling situation.

Propaganda in war is hardly a new phenomenon.

In the article I'm quoting (Evening Standard), he also goes on about a Handbook that supposedly tells soldiers to raid villages and torture whoever is there. But the comment about a legal challenge to BBC is enlightening to me.

9 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

Maybe because the false narrative being peddled in the media incites the hostile states against them. I agree though the BBC is the least of the culprits. Social media ahem is far worse. 

almost every mainstream media outlet is "peddling" out a narrative of Israel as innocent victims and not differentiating Hamas from Palestinian people. Almost every story being told is about support for Israel. So I don't align with your statement.

My point is that Israel is supposedly "at war", why is it worrying about something so trivial in the grand scheme of things. Any "hostile" states are hostile cos of previous conflict, not cos of BBC! (or other media)

15 hours ago, David said:

Telling me you've never done it on the way home from the pub at night, caught short, behind number 70s rose bush?

but..... he lives at number 70...

This to me kind of typifies things and why I have a mistrust for Israel. In the midst of what it's calling a severe attack etc and when they're supposedly being subjected to the worst acts known to man, their President is more concerned about a legal battle to ensure the optics are right.

I ask onlookers, is this the kind of priority a country under attack should have? Or is it the a country more concerned with using Smoke and Mirrors to hide it's true objective? 

In an interview with the Daily Mail, Isaac Herzog asked what else the BBC needed “in order for them to admit that we are dealing with the worst terrorist organisation in the world?”.

Mr Herzog told the paper: “I feel the BBC’s reporting is atrocious.

“The fact that it does not recognise Hamas as a terror organisation requires a complete legal battle and public battle. It’s unbelievable.

1 minute ago, Anag Ram said:

Was very good but perhaps not enjoyable. Sometimes stories like that one make me sad on behalf of men.

The surviving victims were treated appallingly.

I get this and agree, but I found the quality and delivery enjoyable if not the subject matter. A lot of the best TV is difficult to watch. True Detective S1 as another example. 

Cannot recall seeing it mentioned, but I'm currently halfway through The Long Shadow . Itvx 

Enjoyable dramatisation of the Yorkshire ripper 

13 minutes ago, Alpha said:

Pretty harsh mate to call them evil! 

Perhaps imperialist is more suitable. 

the decision-makers and war-mongers are just that. They've planned to go to war with every nation not in the world banking system since the early 70s and have invaded each one systematically since. They've planned to undermine all the oil-rich countries they can, and have done so. They've got army bases everywhere, with no justification.