Kathcairns

There is a possibility Derby could be liquidated, it will not happen though. Derby may be in a hole but they have bags of potential, they have a  massive fan base and clubs with this will always find a way to dig themselves out. They just need the right men in charge to do it.
There is however one constant truism that always accompanies situations like this. The doomsayers are always out in force. To quote the famous poem by Albert Edgar Guest
There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
     There are thousands to prophesy failure,
There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
      The dangers that wait to assail you.
Some people take joy in prophesying and forecasting the worst case scenario.  It may be they are expressing their own paranoia as a therapeutic measure or they may be the type who get a thrill from spreading doom and gloom. Whatever it is, it is a time for people who love their club to grow thick skins and learn to ignore such negativity until it comes from people who genuinely have their finger on the pulse and are speaking facts not fears. 
 

Isn’t that what Lee Dixon is, and all those other annoying Co-commentators that just talk about their glory days over the game. I got the term from wwe to be honest, I just thought that’s what Co-commentators are called. They’re not really Co-commentators, cos they don’t do any commentating, they’re just there to add colour. 

I don't like our club being singled out for doing what many others have done before - bent the rules. I want to get away with as little in the way of EFL punishment as we can. We don't really deserve all the poo that is flying our way. It pisses me off deeply to see that poo-for-brains Gibson and idiot Maguire on their one person crusades against us. 
#COYR

Exactly, but where are the clued up investigative journalists when you want them?

Good. That's them mid table by the end of next month then... ?

However, what is the point of all this talk of sustainability when they just shove all the plaudits in the direction of the rich clubs?
It's hypocrisy of the highest order.
Don't let them off the hook! 

So they ignore the poll results and just give it to the guy with all the money and the resources.
All this talk of levelling the playing field is just that - talk. ?

I am writing this, largely out of frustration, but I feel I need to get it off my chest.
My dad was a season ticket holder for 50-odd years and he died of cancer in September. (I joined him as a season ticket holder from 1987)
He had renewed his ticket for the 2020-21 season before the pandemic hit which was carried over into this season.
In April, when he knew he was too poorly to go again, he wrote to the ticket office advising as such and would therefore prefer a refund to the ticket for 2021-22.
He received a response saying that the club could not provide a refund as the deadline had since passed.
As a result, I wrote to the club in July to see if an amicable solution could be found to transfer his ticket to my friend who would pay the difference from a 65+ ticket to a standard adult one, then paying my dad for the rest of the ticket.
I heard nothing.  I chased again twice and still heard nothing.
In an attempt to try and sort it out before the season ticket deadline (after my dad had recently died and after Derby had gone into administration), I went to the ticket office and was advised the process would be that my friend would have to buy the ticket in full and my dad could get a refund on his seat, due to his death.
I therefore paid for my friend’s seat (which was my dad’s seat) in full for my friend and gave details with regards to getting a refund.
This week, the SLO contacted me to say that it would be possible to upgrade his seat to my friend and to contact the ticket office accordingly, in response to my email sent in July.
When I explained what I had already been told by the ticket office, I received another email advising that due to the administration events, no refund could be given at all.
So, Derby County have taken my dad’s money and my friend’s money for the same seat, have given me conflicting information and are now reneging on returning my Dad’s refund (which would have obviously gone to my mother).
I have requested that I get his season ticket back but for a different seat, as I can either bring someone else, or sell it on to recover some of the cash, but have had no response so far.
I can’t express how poorly I have felt Derby have handled this, (effectively costing me over £300) and it shows how much they valued my dad as a “customer”, when their lack of providing the correct information or acting in a timely manner could have seen this resolved.
Overall, I’m really saddened that this becomes my Dad’s final legacy with the club that he loved.

Yet according to @angieram the administrators have had to engage lawyers at present to fight the case, even though the legal action cannot be pursued during administration, because we need a clear slate to be able to come out of admin.
So Gibson is both adding additional costs to Derby during this time of dire peril, and by taking the action he is intentionally making it more difficult for Derby to exit administration. That sounds to me that he is pursuing a vendetta with the purpose of liquidating Derby County.
If you're waiting for the EFL to step in and help us, you're going to be waiting a long time. If they were minded to they could have done this already, but clearly have chosen not to act. Hence the administrators have had to act and take money out of the club instead.

There is no point him trying to sue the club because if we are in Administration he would have nothing to gain. Even if he could prove a case - highly unlikely - and won, any award would rank as an unsecured creditor and get 2/3 of 3/4 of 5/8 of FA. If as part of Administration the club was bought, it would be bought by a different entity, and the entity to which Gibson would be suing would cease to exist.
If he should proceed with any case I cannot see the EFL would permit it under their membership rules. There would be anarchy. Would the door be open for us to sue QPR for instance.
IMO it is no more than sabre rattling, and Gibson trying to look hard to pacify his own entitled fanbase who are fed up with Championship football and Warnock’s brand of entertainment. The bloke is an irrelevance and we should ignore him, rather than give him the time and profile he seeks.

I agree, it was one more boot in the head when the Club is on the floor...............Bullies always say  "it was just a joke"

But to be 'better' they need to be competing in the top six don't they, which would require hundreds of millions of pounds of expenditure (I won't call it investment as that alludes to a notion of getting a return!). They could go out and spend £100m in each of the next three transfer windows and quite feasibly STILL be a mid-table Premier League club - only now one with a huge debt.
Ambition is lovely but - as we Rams know all too well - can be a very dangerous thing.

Mike Ashley is a long way from being the most odious owner in English football. Newcastle fans objections to him were never anything to do with how he ran Sports Direct, more that he was seen as an outsider who wasn't willing to bankrupt himself trying to get NUFC as a regular top 6 team. The way they've embraced the Saudi interest from the outset proves that morality was never an issue. 
We don't need an owner to splash millions on facilities - ours are better than Newcastle's - we need an owner who'll run us within our means, support youth development and give manager's a chance. And preferably one that doesn't come with substantial human rights abuses to their name. 

They have if you compare it to where they were 4 & 11 years before he arrived, but not really if you compare it to where they were 3 years or 7-10 years before!
Really they've just re-found the level they historically have played at for pretty much their entire existence before the Premier League came along.  A mid table (with a few deviations between upper & lower mid table) top tier team with mixed with a few spells in the second division.
They had some great times under Kevin Keegan and then Bobby Robson challenging for titles and that seems to be the cause for much of their delusion that they should be competing at the top end now, but that isn't the norm for them as a club and you have to go back to 1927 for the last time they were the champions of England.
In between Keegan & Robson they only finished 13th, 13th, 11th, 11th. After Robson left 14th, 7th under Souness then 13th in the season before Ashley.
Under Ashley they've have PL finishes of 12th, 18th, 12th, 5th, 16th, 10th, 15th, 18th, 10th, 13th, 13th, 12th.
They're exactly where they should be, and need to stop bloody moaning about it.

Very good point. But could he not just turn it upside down...??
That wouldn't work for that tie though, would it?
Oh well, best call the whole thing off.

He would tho, Newcastle scarfs are White and Black...Ours are Black and White ?

There is one advantage for Ashley if he did buy Derby he wouldn’t have to buy another football scarf. ?

Ashley took over an established top half club, who only 10 years before were title candidates, and got them relegated twice in the span of a decade. They've gone backwards under him. Why anyone thinks he has the knowhow to get us "established in the Premier League" I don't know because he hasn't ever backed a manager in all his time there

They exist, not thrive, and have no ambition to compete.
I know that sounds ok right now, but look at what his ownership has done to a wonderful club.
I know people say Newcastle fans have a sense of entitlement, despite not having won anything in years, but look how his ownership has sucked any hope out of its supporters, and turned the entire fanbase against him.
They exist in a purgatory, between the club they've become, and the club a little ambition would become, an irrelevance beyond their fanbase, and an embarrassment to their diminishing fanbase.
 
 

He definitely deserves it.
He's managing to win games (and not lose against better sides) with a team of mismatched veterans and youngsters, while the club is essentially on fire behind the scenes, and he's somehow managing to do this while also getting us playing a more attractive style of football than last season.
More than we could ask for, and certainly more than could have been expected based on last season.

Anyone see the administrators comment that only 2% of ticket sales have been through the ticket office.
Maybe because 1) It's been closed for so long and 2) Most of the crowd is season ticket holders!!!
Try opening the ticket office from 4-9pm, the most convenient times for people to get there.

I would rather have my card

And it's your right to disagree, Notts. County has history of being one of the founding members of the football league, now that's just a passing mention with them being in the conference, that would just be the same for Derby County being referred to as a founding member. History  
I wouldn't say it's our current fanbase that makes us a "noticeable" club it's the fact the club is managed by Wayne Rooney that makes us a noticeable club. Mention Derby County and people say yes they are managed by Wayne Rooney, mention Wayne Rooney and the reply is he is the manager at Derby. I f we were managed by Tony Pulis (just a name picked at random) we wouldn't be half as noticeable.
Fans who support "their" clubs aren't interested in the history of other clubs. 

Sorry but if he'd been in the pub with Lawrence all evening and watched the Bennett episode, then it would be better to have got a taxi. But as he got into the car he should have put his seatbelt on. I imagine he was 'bladdered' as he admitted to being drunk in the article. Else why else would he identify himself as Alfie to the paramedic?! 

I don't live in Derbyshire and apart from comments about how surprised people are that we're in such a mess, fans of other clubs don't seem to care about us one way or the other. We're certainly not '' seriously disliked' universally. I bet most fans don't think about us at all.