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    Phoenix reacted to Taribo in Derby's Swansong Players   
    He’s was 19 when he played for us wasnt he? He’s only just turned 35 according to Wikipedia 
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    Phoenix reacted to Igorwasking in Derby's Swansong Players   
    Taribo West?
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    Phoenix reacted to ram59 in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    BIg shout out to Collins, for a striker who hasn't scored in such a long time, to 'earn' a penalty when 2 up and to give it to a teammate for his hat trick, is a fantastic contribution to the team cause.
    Poor shout out to around 2,000 Derby fans, who didn't turn up after coming to the 'big' attraction of Bolton. I expected a few less, but 2,000 was quite a large number.
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    Phoenix reacted to TimRam in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    Morecambe have issued a press statement about yesterdays result:-

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    Phoenix reacted to CBRammette in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    Can we crowd fund season tickets?
     
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    Phoenix got a reaction from angieram in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    A couple of quotes from the Morecambe Forum.
    "Ref is giving them everything. We've been pulled back/down a few times and got nothing, but their lads go down, free-kick every time."
    Famiiar?
    "Yes Derby are excellent, but we're just letting them attack, attack and attack again. Their defence could start a card school to keep them occupied."
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    Phoenix reacted to Caerphilly Ram in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    I like the resilience and toughness the side shows. For years I’ve felt like we were often too soft or nice, this season there’s something different. I think it’s down to a combination of the management teams approach, the qualities added to the squad in terms of the more seasoned pros, and the battle hardening that last season offered to the younger lads like Cashin, Knight and Bird. I’m really enjoying this season.
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    Phoenix reacted to JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
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    Phoenix got a reaction from Biley66 in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    and tonight's lottery numbers are...?
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    Phoenix got a reaction from Jackal in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    The bit that caught my eye was in the Mail, about the Nigerian Billionaire stepping in to save Shef Utd. I'm always wary of the emails I get from Nigerian Billionaires.
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    Phoenix reacted to Comrade 86 in Morecambe (H) Sat 4th Feb   
    Good man. Looking forward to another three points under your stewardship mate. 
    COYR
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    Phoenix reacted to Crewton in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    Dozy Mmobuosi isn't the most encouraging of names, is it?
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    Phoenix reacted to MadAmster in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    The amortisation (player depreciation) issue. It's a weird one. Under UK Government accounting rules (FRS102), the methodology used by DCFC under MM (he told the EFL he was going to use that method in 2015, why did it take them 4 years to decide it was "illegal" under EFL rules?) is 100% legal and used by many firms. In 2019 there wasn't a specific EFL rule disallowing its use. 
    The first tribunal, which contained some accountants (logical when it's an accounting issue) found the club not guilty. The EFL decided to appeal, on the very last day they could lodge an appeal. The appeal committee contained ZERO accountants to adjudge this accounting issue. They found DCFC guilty. We had to amend and resubmit several years accounts and the end result was we were seen to have broken FFP limits in, IIRC, 3 seasons. That led to the 9 point deduction.
    Several months later, the EFL introduced a new rule disallowing the methodology DCFC had used. Yes, that's right. They made a rule to stop anyone else doing it. So, why did we get found guilty. The answer is that they have, alongside the specific rules, a catch all get out clause to the effect that they can decide something is wrong if they feel like it. In this case DCFC was using a different amortisation methodology to the rest of the Championship sides and that was, somehow, despite being legal, unfair to the other clubs.
    Did we get shafted? IMO most definitely. Why were we shafted? Again, this is a personal opinion. MM had ruffled too many EFL feathers and was involved in a spat with another SBC club chairman and together they saw a way to "get their own back".
    Move to 2023 and it seems Chelsea are doing the same, or something very similar. UEFA will be changing their rules next season to stop anybody else doing it. Chelsea have got in first and will get away with it.
    Strangely enough, I'm glad someone got burnt, unhappy it was us but I sincerely hope that the EFL and PL (hopefully UEFA and FIFA too) change the rules in order to ensure no other club can get into the situation we were in.  
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    Phoenix reacted to DavesaRam in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    AAAANNNNNDDDDD: the amortisation rule, which is a valid method in the real world, wasn’t even on the EFL rule book until early last year, some 3 or 4 years after we were supposed to have broken it.
    So thar, along with all the nasty’s which the EFL oversaw during this case should leave the EFL wide open to a restriction if practice prosecution on a massive scale.
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    Phoenix reacted to kevinhectoring in West Ham (H) FACR4 Mon 30th Jan   
    Only a pedant would say forest are in the same league as ManU
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    Phoenix reacted to Ram@Lincoln in West Ham (H) FACR4 Mon 30th Jan   
    We can't let this defeat be the end of @Diego, we need our number 1 matchday thread starter. Unbeaten in what 14 league games? Who's beating that? ?
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    Phoenix reacted to duncanjwitham in January Window   
    Fully expecting the EFL's response to be "Oh, you came in 20% under the budget? Guess you didn't really need it then, so we'll drop it by 20% next season."
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    Phoenix reacted to CBRammette in January Window   
    I think we all know how that will go
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    Phoenix reacted to CBRammette in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    This is by far the worst aspect of it all even now. Why punish the club and new owner further by not being to sign the few remaining youngsters on longer contracts (not talking huge wages) just longer contracts? Also protects the youngsters themselves
     
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    Phoenix reacted to Crewton in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    I think the EFL rules preventing DCFC from extending the contracts of Academy professionals on low wages and offering professional contracts to players turning 17 robbed DCFC of sufficient players to run functioning teams below 1st team level, put additional strain on those youngsters left behind, presented bargains to clubs that we owed nothing to, and potentially robbed unsecured creditors from receiving further funds over and above what any prospective owner was willing to pay (eg : if DCFC had been able to extend Ebosele's  contract on the proviso that any profit from a future transfer was split in an agreed proportion between the club and unsecured creditors, it would at least have meant potentially more money for creditors and no unearned bargain for Udineseford. It would also have meant that, in the event that the club was liquidated, the EFL would have been able to claim higher compensation from any club wishing to acquire their registrations). Their short-sighted rule also, in the case of Ebosele, meant that his Irish club missed out on a healthy sell-on fee. 
     
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    Phoenix reacted to duncanjwitham in Have Derby County been treated unfairly by the EFL   
    Unless he had a spare £50m+ burning a hole in his back pocket, I suspect not.  It was a matter of time until HMRC or MSD came calling for what we owe them.  And having the stadium and training ground repossessed by MSD possibly would have put us in a worse position.
    In terms of the EFL, there's no doubt we were badly treated.  Having the ground valued by a guy that knew nothing about valuing sports stadiums.  The amortization charge off the back of an "expert" who literally did not know the rules he was supposedly an expert on. Points deductions for offences under rules that were subsequently changed to make sure other clubs didn't break them.  Various demands that the administrators break the law or they'd kick us out of the league.  Rewriting administration law on a whim to benefit the  parasite clubs.  An apparently harsher enforced business-plan than any other club has been forced under.  I could go on...
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    Phoenix reacted to Carl Sagan in January Window   
    Interestingly with so many of the teams around us making signings. One school of thought is to strengthen while around the top and give yourselves insurance should injuries strike. It can work, but we saw in the Billy Davies promotion season how it can be almost castrophic, going from near certainties for automatic promotion to prolonged relegation form. 
    Given our circumstances, we may have little choice but to try the second approach of not upsetting the applecart and destabilising a close knit dressing room that has proved themselves so far. If we weren't getting another striker just in case, I'd have loved to have Jack Stretton knocking on the door as backup, but it wasn't to be. 
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    Phoenix reacted to Ilsonram12 in Jody Morris   
    Agrees to become the new Swindon Town manager 
    Wish him well there, liked him when he was here and he has the potential to be a top manager 
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    Phoenix reacted to Ram-Alf in Paul Warne appointed as Head Coach   
    It's a good job Clowes is a millionaire at those prices
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