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As long as Mel isn't at the ground I don't care where he's slunk off too. 

It was a very odd interpretation of the play from my perspective. It's not like bird has used his body to 'force' the contact, as you sometimes see. The ball in the box was loose after a poor touch, their player has tried to make up for it, and he's made contact with Bird. It's a penalty as clear as day. 

I liked how their manager said it was never a penalty despite the fact he's half a pitch away. I was at that end and about 15 yards from the incident, and it's a penalty all day long. It's a stupid challenge as the ball got away, bird nicked in and their player made contact. The radio derby commentator who called it a 'modern penalty' as Bird stepped across him sounds like an idiot tbh. 

Agreed.
B4 is not a lone ranger in standing at away games, not here to argue the rights, wrongs and ground regulations here, it just happens. Until clubs enforce the regulations, don’t expect any changes in fans suddenly using the seats at away games.
BUT
And yeah it’s a big but, to sit here and call Newcastle fans “mardy” for complaining about safe, in a stand which, well we all know the history of….is bringing these comments on to himself yet again.
@B4ev6is you are a highly passionate fan, we all know this, however at times, like this, I think you just need to be a little more understanding.
Newcastle fans are more than within their rights to make a complaint on not feeling safe, they should not be afraid to speak out. Whilst you may not have felt unsafe in that stand, you was not there on that day to experience what Newcastle fans experienced.
It is the responsibility of Sheffield Wednesday to ensure all fans feel safe within their ground, they failed, as a result the capacity of that stand has been reduced. 
Also, I recall games in the past where you wasn’t able to attend due to your Dad not being able to take you, many fans including myself have other priorities in life with family and work. I’m not sure your suggestions to send the Mrs shopping, or rearrange work shifts are that helpful to be honest.
I realise you are trying to help and would like to see as many Derby fans inside the grounds as possible, sometimes as I say, people just have other commitments with our partners.
 

They've lost 3 million, not 2, and that's with a 400% increase in turnover.  The money they've spent on wages at that level is ridiculous and it's not a football fairytale is my point. They don't need to be spending big transfer fees to be blowing out the competition off the pitch so they can succeed on it. Whether you agree with their right to do it is a different question and one that goes beyond the remit of the thread. 

My main concern is their interest wanes once the excitement of owning a club goes away. If they rack up significant losses and then walk away, as owners in the past have done, then the club could be left in a sticky situation. I didn't say they'd need to spend big in League 2 and League 1, I suggested League 1 and the championship level is where they may be more likely to gamble more heavily. I stand by that approximation if they hang around Wrexham for that long. 

My second paragraph was in response to yours about Clowes not having deep pockets. I thought that was obvious tbh. Do you honestly think the wages at Wrexham are a result of their higher attendances? I think you're simply mistaking correlation for causation tbh. There is competition and blatant unfairness which I think you're confusing. A competition would lead to a relatively even playing field giving each team a reasonable opportunity to compete against one another. I'm not sure that's what's really going on here. If you approve of Newcastle basically pimping their football team out for some sports washing good for you, personally I find it sickening. 
Did I say the Wrexham fans should be ashamed? or the players? or the owners? 
 

I get what you're saying. I am maybe still a bit scarred from the mauling we took at their place. Playoffs are a lottery, and if we win against Portsmouth, sneak a draw against Wednesday then we'll have hit a nice patch of form before the semi-final legs. 

You’d make a great husband mate.

Or marriage counsellor.

I fancy us to beat Plymouth tbh. They only just got past us at their place when we were in the doldrums of our poor form and look shaky at the back. I could see us in a 3-4-3 beating them at home and the pressure gets to them at their place. I don't fancy us against Barnsley though. If we play them we won't progress any further.

I fancy us to beat Plymouth tbh. They only just got past us at their place when we were in the doldrums of our poor form and look shaky at the back. I could see us in a 3-4-3 beating them at home and the pressure gets to them at their place. I don't fancy us against Barnsley though. If we play them we won't progress any further.

I fancy us to beat Plymouth tbh. They only just got past us at their place when we were in the doldrums of our poor form and look shaky at the back. I could see us in a 3-4-3 beating them at home and the pressure gets to them at their place. I don't fancy us against Barnsley though. If we play them we won't progress any further.

It's way over the top, considering the money spent on the team. In reality, they've got a league 1 team albeit one that would likely struggle at this level. You've got to question just how deep their pockets are and how long they'll be able to subsidise that level of investment. If i was a conference team I'd be furious with what Wrexham have done tbh.

It was a very odd interpretation of the play from my perspective. It's not like bird has used his body to 'force' the contact, as you sometimes see. The ball in the box was loose after a poor touch, their player has tried to make up for it, and he's made contact with Bird. It's a penalty as clear as day. 

I may have been slightly overstating it... but I was directly in front of it, on the 4th row of the south stand, so probably 5-8 yards away from the by-line and 21-24 yards away from the incident. 

I liked how their manager said it was never a penalty despite the fact he's half a pitch away. I was at that end and about 15 yards from the incident, and it's a penalty all day long. It's a stupid challenge as the ball got away, bird nicked in and their player made contact. The radio derby commentator who called it a 'modern penalty' as Bird stepped across him sounds like an idiot tbh. 

Now you know that won’t be good enough for B4. Where’s your commitment?
I’m sure if you left straight after the game you’d at least get there in time for the interval.😀

What time is the show mate
 

Are you offering to take his missus while he goes to the game mate? 😂

Today we were excellent bar the opening 15 minutes. The 3-4-3 is the formation we've got to go for from now on. It allows us to use a number of players properly and give McGoldrick the ability to float around a bit more given the alternative options up front. Cashin as the wide centre back needs some work but it's in progress and Davies as the old head and bit of class works nicely. The midfield balance with either Hourihane or Bird dropping deep to receive the ball allows for a proper outlet through the middle with Sibbo or Mcgoldrick dropping at the opposite end to allow a connection through the middle. We still need a bit of work on the patterns of play (although promising signs are emerging on that front today) and our shape in transition needs some help but all in all it was excellent. 

Burton were surprisingly disappointing. They've gotten some great results in the past 10 games and are pretty much safe now so could have gone for it. Their lack of quality really showed in the midfield and top end of the pitch. They seemed to rely on second balls and deep crosses in the box for anything of note. After the opening we looked in complete control and Burton seemed all too happy to let us have it. 

What a difference a week makes!
Massive credit has to go to Warne, his coaches, and the players for finding the character and the nerve to bounce back and earn two big wins.
There have been times in recent games - the equaliser v MK Dons, the stoppage time penalty v Bristol Rovers, Bolton and Peterborough leading at HT in midweek, and Burton holding firm at HT today - that might have broken other teams’ spirit.
But not us.
The agonising thing is that the work is not over. We still have two big games and two big performances required. We might need four points.
We have to expect Peterborough will fight us all the way. But honestly I think that’s for the best - we want to be going into the play-offs in winning form, with momentum, and ready to dig deep.
It’s going to be a fun few weeks!

Today we were excellent bar the opening 15 minutes. The 3-4-3 is the formation we've got to go for from now on. It allows us to use a number of players properly and give McGoldrick the ability to float around a bit more given the alternative options up front. Cashin as the wide centre back needs some work but it's in progress and Davies as the old head and bit of class works nicely. The midfield balance with either Hourihane or Bird dropping deep to receive the ball allows for a proper outlet through the middle with Sibbo or Mcgoldrick dropping at the opposite end to allow a connection through the middle. We still need a bit of work on the patterns of play (although promising signs are emerging on that front today) and our shape in transition needs some help but all in all it was excellent. 

Burton were surprisingly disappointing. They've gotten some great results in the past 10 games and are pretty much safe now so could have gone for it. Their lack of quality really showed in the midfield and top end of the pitch. They seemed to rely on second balls and deep crosses in the box for anything of note. After the opening we looked in complete control and Burton seemed all too happy to let us have it. 

Today we were excellent bar the opening 15 minutes. The 3-4-3 is the formation we've got to go for from now on. It allows us to use a number of players properly and give McGoldrick the ability to float around a bit more given the alternative options up front. Cashin as the wide centre back needs some work but it's in progress and Davies as the old head and bit of class works nicely. The midfield balance with either Hourihane or Bird dropping deep to receive the ball allows for a proper outlet through the middle with Sibbo or Mcgoldrick dropping at the opposite end to allow a connection through the middle. We still need a bit of work on the patterns of play (although promising signs are emerging on that front today) and our shape in transition needs some help but all in all it was excellent. 

Burton were surprisingly disappointing. They've gotten some great results in the past 10 games and are pretty much safe now so could have gone for it. Their lack of quality really showed in the midfield and top end of the pitch. They seemed to rely on second balls and deep crosses in the box for anything of note. After the opening we looked in complete control and Burton seemed all too happy to let us have it. 

Today we were excellent bar the opening 15 minutes. The 3-4-3 is the formation we've got to go for from now on. It allows us to use a number of players properly and give McGoldrick the ability to float around a bit more given the alternative options up front. Cashin as the wide centre back needs some work but it's in progress and Davies as the old head and bit of class works nicely. The midfield balance with either Hourihane or Bird dropping deep to receive the ball allows for a proper outlet through the middle with Sibbo or Mcgoldrick dropping at the opposite end to allow a connection through the middle. We still need a bit of work on the patterns of play (although promising signs are emerging on that front today) and our shape in transition needs some help but all in all it was excellent. 

Burton were surprisingly disappointing. They've gotten some great results in the past 10 games and are pretty much safe now so could have gone for it. Their lack of quality really showed in the midfield and top end of the pitch. They seemed to rely on second balls and deep crosses in the box for anything of note. After the opening we looked in complete control and Burton seemed all too happy to let us have it. 

Today we were excellent bar the opening 15 minutes. The 3-4-3 is the formation we've got to go for from now on. It allows us to use a number of players properly and give McGoldrick the ability to float around a bit more given the alternative options up front. Cashin as the wide centre back needs some work but it's in progress and Davies as the old head and bit of class works nicely. The midfield balance with either Hourihane or Bird dropping deep to receive the ball allows for a proper outlet through the middle with Sibbo or Mcgoldrick dropping at the opposite end to allow a connection through the middle. We still need a bit of work on the patterns of play (although promising signs are emerging on that front today) and our shape in transition needs some help but all in all it was excellent. 

Burton were surprisingly disappointing. They've gotten some great results in the past 10 games and are pretty much safe now so could have gone for it. Their lack of quality really showed in the midfield and top end of the pitch. They seemed to rely on second balls and deep crosses in the box for anything of note. After the opening we looked in complete control and Burton seemed all too happy to let us have it. 

Today we were excellent bar the opening 15 minutes. The 3-4-3 is the formation we've got to go for from now on. It allows us to use a number of players properly and give McGoldrick the ability to float around a bit more given the alternative options up front. Cashin as the wide centre back needs some work but it's in progress and Davies as the old head and bit of class works nicely. The midfield balance with either Hourihane or Bird dropping deep to receive the ball allows for a proper outlet through the middle with Sibbo or Mcgoldrick dropping at the opposite end to allow a connection through the middle. We still need a bit of work on the patterns of play (although promising signs are emerging on that front today) and our shape in transition needs some help but all in all it was excellent. 

Burton were surprisingly disappointing. They've gotten some great results in the past 10 games and are pretty much safe now so could have gone for it. Their lack of quality really showed in the midfield and top end of the pitch. They seemed to rely on second balls and deep crosses in the box for anything of note. After the opening we looked in complete control and Burton seemed all too happy to let us have it.