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Upheaval? Don’t talk to us about upheaval. 😀
 

Happy for Maguire to get his teeth into Quantuma rather than us for a change.

IMO overcrowded trains are more of a issue than cost. If East Midlands Railway spent less money on their stupid TV adverts featuring that annoying purple t**t "Miles" and more on putting on extra carriages on their Saturday services it would be a start 😡

Just out of interest, have you ever been to an actual football match.

Nope ,, he’s never been that lucky🤷🏻‍♂️

Today felt like a promotion to me. We are going to do it, its not pretty but with the addition of Ebou in midfield we've got that bit of bite we needed.
We matched a very physical team who are well drilled in the dark arts, we battled and kept trying to play despite several of their players constantly in the refs ear and the fat controller giving it large to the 4th official all game. 
Tough game and a massive 3 points.
Fckn love Derby, Fckin love Derby..........Thought the South Stand got behind the lads today just as they needed it. That 10 minutes or so of noise kept the lads going and saw off any chance of them getting on top.
We can do this, us and the team i mean. The fans made a difference i thought, some great noise during that second half.
COYR.

Can we please have this one thread as a place where people can come in to enjoy the after glow of matches we get a good result for fans that enjoy that kind of thing between now and the end of the season , it’s not a big ask , it’s not trying to ban anyone and if your not a troll or someone just out to spoil the mood or enjoyment for others  then I’m sure you won’t want to post in here ,
today feels great to me, if you feel good about today post away and post in here till season end ,
Roll on next Saturday 

Jesus. Imagine if we'd lost.

And another thread that's morphed into one about Paul Warne 🙁

Was it really necessary to start yet another anti Warne thread? Whilst your points may be valid, why couldn't you just post them on the match day thread?

Points deductions, Nick De Marco, FFP and possible appeal at the end of the season.  Two fixture lists incoming. ?.  Sounds familiar.  Sure they'll accept in the correct fashion after all the mind numbing unfactual s*** they sent our way .😂

We will be winners today regardless of the score.
Having this bloke only ever sat in the opposition dugout and not the home team at Pride Park is a win. 
 

I liked it as well, decided against sharing it in the Warne topic though, just didn't seem worth it.
Comes across as really open and honest, I really find it hard not to like the bloke on a personal level from all the content we're given to base our opinions on. Just one of those people I think would be good to have a pint with and get things off your chest to. 

I love that interview tbh.
So much sense spoken by Warne.
Made a good point to Dom about the effect of criticism and more importantly he avoids the obvious/easy answer in claiming that he knew things would turn.... and admitting he/you don't.  You do what you can and see how it goes and hope it all comes good.
Disregarding the style of football,  I struggle to see how anyone can find fault with his attitude towards management here.

I don’t think we should underestimate the number of times Collins is there to lay the ball off to our midfield. His endeavour often turns defence into attack.
He may not be the most potent threat in the box, but let’s not criticise his general play.

It’s not that I am pro or anti. It’s that the anti mob are so irritating. The so called pro side tend to reflect on the good and the bad. The anti are just fixated, win or lose. Never give an inch, dull, obsessed, spoilt, churlish and without perspective. I suspect that Those of us, (me included ) that are vaguely supportive, only post in a vain attempt to balance the one eyed vitriol. 
 
Dreading Saturday .. looking like 4 strikers all injured, but it will be completely Warne’s fault if we lose, or pure luck if we win. Like a horrible scratched record. 

Well there’s a few on here that think they know everything 🙄

And another thread that's morphed into one about Paul Warne 🙁

As this is vote-based, someone must like him. 
 

Oi @Chris_Martin he's made you look a right t*** now, hasn't he! 😂
 

Elder got clattered late on if I remember right, maybe he's struggling as a result of that challenge?

You beat me to it. Reading the last page or so of this thread made me immediately think of The Peter Principle. At present he is doing well and has a history of getting promotions. He has also been relegated a few times but in some cases there were extenuating circumstances and his previous club were happy to keep employing him.
No one knows (probably not even himself) what he is capable of or what levels he can attain. He strikes me as an intelligent chap and he will know the challenges which lie ahead, should we get promoted. In my opinion he should be given every chance to succeed and only if it becomes apparent that he is out of his depth should he be replaced.
Not comparing him to Brian Clough at all but Brian was managing Hartlepool (not very well) when we appointed him. We didn’t improve the first season he was here but got promotion the following year. No one knew at the time how good he would be, he didn’t show it in the first year here.
Let’s give him the opportunity to succeed.

Pure speculation at the moment and for me its too early.
Lets face it, even if our form completely nosedived i doubt DC would get rid before the end of the season. 
If we do go up and its a big if at the moment then it would be incredibly harsh to sack Warne as despite his many flaws he has objectively completed his mission whether its been nice on the eye or not. With PW a nice guy and DC seemingly a nice guy I somewhat doubt we'd be this harsh upon promotion.
If we miss out on promotion this season then I think there's need to discuss PW future. Personally i'd like him gone under this proviso but once again DC backed him once before, maybe he'll back him again. 
Ultimately none of us have a crystal ball and if Iain Dowie can get promoted from the championship as manager then anyone can. Lets worry about the championship if we get there. 

Warne’s current remit is to get us promoted to the Championship and become an established Championship team. Getting back into the PL is a long term goal which we can worry about further down the line. I really don’t understand why you think DC would or should sack the manager he appointed on a long term contract if he achieves the first of those objectives but was not given the chance to achieve the second. 
 
I’m not overly confident that PW will do well for us in the Championship but I definitely think he would have earned the right to have a crack at it. I’m pretty confident that DC does as well. 
 
My gut feeling is that the only way PW will be sacked before his contract expires is 1) we miss out on the play offs this year AND plummet down the league [neither of those are looking likely], 2) we narrowly miss out this season AND are not seriously in the mix after a dozen games or so next season, or 3) we get promoted but really struggle and find ourselves in a relegation battle. The third scenario is the most likely but heck, whatever some of us may think of his tactics or management style, or how much reliance we attach to his track record at Rotherham, he deserves the right to have a go.
 
edit: I’d go as far as saying getting back into the PL is more of an aspiration than a target at the moment and certainly not something that would be on a managers list of measurable objectives right now.

Lovely bit if determination considering he's only here on loan. 
Hopefully there is a chance we can bring him in on a permanent in the summer, I've been impressed with the little bit I've seen of him.