Rammy03

It's a very good start. Hopefully we can pick up a few points there

Don't like how the club has been run but you're absolutely right, this is all about the EFL. 

2 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said:

What a mess to get in. The club has only its self to blame.

But does it though? The accounts were signed off. There was no problem. If there was, I am sure there are many of things the club wouldn't have done. You cannot say it's fine and then a year later say actually no it's not. As much as I question the way the club has been run, this is EFL incompetence.

4 hours ago, IslandExile said:

One point that everyone appears to be overlooking is....

This is unfair on Wycombe. How can they prepare for the new season not knowing which League they will be in? Do they go out and find new players so that they're competitive? And, if so, at what standard? Do they need to sell to make ends meet?

It's bad for both Wycombe and Derby. The EFL are a disgusting organisation who have shown time and time again that they do not protect clubs.

Haven't we had enough punishment as it is, our name has been dragged through the mud. This case has been going on for years. It's appalling. And now they want more sanctions because we supposedly gained an unfair advantage with our accounting methods even though we haven't.

2 full seasons now of absolute chaos and it's still going on. What an absolute shambles. 

2 minutes ago, JfR said:

As things stand, no. Personally, I think this is just grandstanding on the EFL's part because they don't want to look like we've "got away with it" with just a points deduction. The EFL have clearly asked for us to be relegated last season, but I'd be shocked if the appeals panel overturned a decision so drastically from a fine to relegation.

They can't do this. 6 weeks until the first ball is kicked. Not enough time to start overturning decisions surely

I don't get it? Are we going to be relegated or not?

We've got the good side of the draw again. Only Germany and Holland to worry about. On the other side of the draw you have Belgium, Portugal, Italy, Spain and France.

It's coming home.

Please explain how that is a penalty. Never a foul 

Finland are the only third placed team still alive. They need Portugal to lose by 4 goals.

6 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

The skinhead Slovakia centre back looks like he wants to kill somebody... ?

All they needed was a draw against what looked like an average Spain side who couldn't score for toffee. Total disaster. Goalkeeper killed the game with that first half display

6 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Playing a 433 without a Henderson or rice in sight and attacking from the off. 

Southgate has changed the system considerably since then. 

He has. It's a misconception that Southgate has always been a negative manager. We were quite a positive attacking side up until 2020. Watch the games back. He's changed it since then, we pass sideways and backwards all the time and it just feels more cautious. 

1 minute ago, SaintRam said:

Jozwiak's been poor but his tackle started that counter. He's been subbed off now though.

He's been playing right back all tournament

8 minutes ago, Posh Ram said:

Yeah, I agree. And our performances under Southgate have been decent in that competition!

People forget that we beat Spain in their own back yard. 3-0 up in half an hour

15 minutes ago, Posh Ram said:

I think statistics and the eye test are the best way to judge international defences because we so rarely see the best teams play each other in a competitive setting.

That's why the nations League is a good idea

Seeing spurs getting rejected by manager after manager is just comedy gold. They'll end up with Ryan Mason

Poland 1 down already. Come on Kamil

3 hours ago, David said:

Who do we want next up, France, Germany or Portugal?

Portugal would be the most obvious choice, yet I have this irrational fear of playing them.

Portugal, they flatter to deceive. Really not as good as people make out. Three late goals against Hungary and then got played off the park by Germany.

25 minutes ago, David said:

I don’t see this not wanting to win, I get it gives us an “easier” route, but if we’re to win this, we’re going to come up against someone decent at some point.

Do we want to win it where people are saying, they had an easy run? Avoided the tough games by losing to Czech.

Want to see us win and then knock France, Germany or Portugal out, imagine the confidence running through the team if we manage to do that.

If we lose, then we was never going to win it anyway 

Get the game won tonight. There is no such thing as an easy side of the draw in this competition. A victory against a France, Portugal or Germany in the next round would see us go all the way in my opinion.

51 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

The Dutch appear to be playing themselves into some form. 

Have to qualify that a tad as it's a relatively weak group, although I'm sure that quite a few would think that about England's group. 

England's group is definitely tougher. Would cup finalists are there. Scotland are better than North Macedonia. Czech Republic are a decent outfit and I would rank them higher than both Ukraine and Austria having watched them all play

Bizarre this. Just doesn't make any sense. Gilmour been in close contact with the Scotland squad but none of them are isolating. 

Ridiculous

16 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

How does he manage to have no close contacts within the camp? Do they do all their training over Zoom? He was in pretty close contact with mason mount just a few days ago. I don't get it. 

Ridiculous isn't it. Probably a false positive anyway

1 hour ago, Red_Dawn said:

When was the last time we beat a traditionally 'big' nation in a knockout stage of an international competition? 

If we get a Portugal, Germany, France or even Belgium in a knockout, I don't see us winning that. 

The reason we did so well in the last WC was because we avoided those teams in the 16 and quarter finals. 

We have 8 knockout wins in major tournaments since 1966 

Paraguay (1986) Belgium (1990), Cameroon (1990), Spain (1996), Denmark (2002), Ecuador (2006), Colombia (2018), Sweden (2018)

Our record against big nations is almost non existent. 

18 minutes ago, Sheikh n Bake said:

His overall performances this season have been rubbish. His end product has been absolutely appauling. He shows glimpses of quality but I don't think just because the fans arnt focussing on his occasional good touch and movement that they have no knowledge because they judge him on his end product.

But hasn't everyone at Derby been appalling? In my opinion, this last season is a right off. Never seen anything like it. Players like Sibley get a pass because he's from the academy. Every attacking player has been awful and we know they are better. It's impossible to judge.