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I’d suggest that in this case, the right of appeal should only be allowed for the charged party if found guilty. 
For the EFL, if their rules are so unclear that:
1) a club is able to misinterpret them
2) an independent tribunal is satisfied that the club acted reasonably 
then the correct action is for the EFL to show some humility, to admit they got it wrong, and to focus all their efforts on changing the rules/guidance to be clearer. 

Some will let us know they're not voting and then sneakily vote.
#goodgamethis

I vote to make the lettering bigger. 

Some won't take part in either vote but will let us know that they're not voting ?

I’m not a MM fan but what that really shows is that his tenure has been considerably more successful until the final year.
 

I do agree with this. I hate us being subordinate to a “big name” player.
I know it’s your forum @David but could we have a vote on whether we remove the “Wayne Rooney’s DCFC Fans” from this forum?

Can we have a vote to decide whether we should have a vote?

I heard the forum name has to stay that way as part of his contract with 32 Red. Rooney opted out of performance based incentives and instead opted to have a forum page named after him. 

Yes, I really dislike it also. Totally get it was meant as a parody of how we're referred to in the media but Rooney's name & 'brand' is now so toxic with some, its becoming divisive.
A vote as @ck- suggests would maybe be the fairest way of deciding whether to keep it or not.

I do agree with this. I hate us being subordinate to a “big name” player.
I know it’s your forum @David but could we have a vote on whether we remove the “Wayne Rooney’s DCFC Fans” from this forum?

I do agree with this. I hate us being subordinate to a “big name” player.
I know it’s your forum @David but could we have a vote on whether we remove the “Wayne Rooney’s DCFC Fans” from this forum?

I’d suggest that in this case, the right of appeal should only be allowed for the charged party if found guilty. 
For the EFL, if their rules are so unclear that:
1) a club is able to misinterpret them
2) an independent tribunal is satisfied that the club acted reasonably 
then the correct action is for the EFL to show some humility, to admit they got it wrong, and to focus all their efforts on changing the rules/guidance to be clearer. 

I’m not a MM fan but what that really shows is that his tenure has been considerably more successful until the final year.
 

I’m not a MM fan but what that really shows is that his tenure has been considerably more successful until the final year.
 

It was an outpouring of relief by both players and fans alike. Did you see all the fans outside the ground? You embarrassed by them as well? 

With the past 12 months and no fans allowed in the ground maybe it was an opportunity for the players to give the fans a thank you and a bit of reconnection.
People moan when there’s no communication/interaction from the club and people moan when there is....sometimes you just can’t win 

I’m not a MM fan but what that really shows is that his tenure has been considerably more successful until the final year.
 

Im struggling to see how anyone could interpret it any other way!
The red and blue lines show literally nothing, other than 2 moments in time.

I’m not a MM fan but what that really shows is that his tenure has been considerably more successful until the final year.
 

I’m not a MM fan but what that really shows is that his tenure has been considerably more successful until the final year.
 

Just over 30 years ago an event occurred that I think all of you would consider to be of greater import than the current struggles of our beloved football club.  In July 1988 the captain of USS Vincennes panicked and let loose 2 surface to air missiles. He brought down an Iranian passenger plane.  290 souls were killed including babes in arms and it is believed, with some justification, that some were conscious as they fell 10,000 feet into the Gulf. Imagine.
Robert Fisk was a proper journalist working for a proper newspaper, The London Times.  He didn’t buy the American versions of events (they changed as evidence changed) and he investigated the story as a good journalist does, using his many contacts in the area.  He wrote a story that destroyed many of the American lies. When it was published all the points contradicting the American versions of events were missing, taken out by Fisk’s editor. What was left was largely anodyne drivel. Fisk left for the Independent. Their gain.
Our match today is, for various reasons, a big story, played in a febrile off field atmosphere and always was going to be - two big clubs with big traditions fallen on hard times; our manager; a takeover; the financial consequences; and the football ones too.  And yet many appear to be surprised by the drivel that is being written about us; and, worse, appear to be believing it; and, worse still, appear to be repeating it, giving it a life of its own.  There are negative comments about the tabloids and the Daily Mail and yet, apparently we’re more than prepared to take as gospel what Craig Hope and others are feeding us.
What do we actually know about the takeover and Erik Alonso’s finances?   Diddly squat is what.  We know Mel has agreed a deal and with whom; we know that’s with the EFL for the owner’s test. That is pretty much it.  And that is all anyone actually knows apart from the 3 parties involved (plus their advisors).  
All the rest is guesswork and rumour, pure and simple. But there are plenty who might want to disrupt us in this week of all weeks.  Mr Chansiri for one.  Might he be Craig Hope’s source? Not beyond the bounds of possibility. 
If a paper like The Times can distort the truth about the death of 290 people why do we accept the word of hacks whose sole aims are to get clicks on an article, names on the stories and followers on twitter?  That’s now a job apparently. We don’t have to help them.
There are times too when not only am I glad that I have no social media presence but I’m also happy not to be a moderator of this board; when I feel so out of sync with my fellow fans that I question my sanity.  This is one of them.  Imagine having to read all the codswallop that’s being spouted in the name of ‘it’s my opinion therefore I’m entitled to express it’. There are very few, I suspect, that would say much of what they have written on these pages to the faces of the players, the manager, coaching staff, recruitment team or our current owner.  There are more than a few contributors to these boards who allegedly espouse treating people with respect, who say they believe that mental health is important (and we have at least two players who have publicly described their own mental health challenges) but who have joined in the general pile on with apparent alacrity. Apparently it’s even worse elsewhere. An opinion is not necessarily correct just because you’re willing to die for it (Oscar Wilde). ‘Chancer’ is the latest adjective being liberally bandied around about a bloke none of us have met and none of us know.  What if he isn’t? Why can’t we give him a chance, if he is, eventually, to take us over? 
We have no say in who runs the club we support.  It is not in ‘our’ gift to choose our next owner whether we like it or not. Never has been. Whether that’s right or wrong is a legitimate point of discussion.  In the meantime we have a team to support and a match to win and a future that will take care of itself, win, lose or draw. And I hope it’s the first of those.

He can take over as head defensive coach..can't do any worse surely?
 

I’d hardly say Morris has experienced hate and vitriol. Some disgruntled fans on a fans forum is hardly hate and vitriol. His reign unfortunately has been a disaster. I think everyone appreciates his effort and intentions. But I’m afraid he will go down as one of the worst owners in our history. I’m afraid for Morris, despite his huge wealth, he’ll be remembered as a failure as a chairman. We are a huge mess and he is responsible for that, fans have been very patient and understanding given the circumstances.

So is that saying he won't? I don't want to go shopping with the wife tomorrow but that doesn't that I won't be. 

I think this is spot on. 
I will not throw insults at Mel Morris, because regardless of the end result, for a long time I believe he was genuinely trying to invest to get us promoted. 
But, neither will I offer plaudits or make excuses for the outcome. 
Ultimately we fell short, and I do think some of that is down to poor investment - not calling into question the amount, just the use of it.
I have made some unfair comments in here in the heat of the moment, but I’d like to think that when we are allowed back in the ground, and if Mel is present, then the supporters will give him a rousing reception for his good intentions, and just forget the end result for a few moments. He tried!
Of course that’s far more likely if we stay up ?

Good point. I'm probably trying a bit too hard to see things from the best angle. 
I wouldn't be surprised if the way that he's run Derby is based on the ways that he achieved success in his other businesses.
I don't suppose he would have bought any other club.
The paradox is that if he should have known better - or did know better - why he didn't do things differently. And assuming that he intended to make the best decisions - could things have gone any differently.
I get the argument: "I wish you'd never been involved." But, I'm not sure that we should be too mean because it didn't work out. There are some chairmen who asset strip, and almost deliberately and intentionally do harm to a club. And I don't think I've read many people suggesting that, if any.
I think of it from my own perspective. There are many things in life I could have done better, and wish I had done differently. But, fit whatever reason, I took the decisions that I took. I don't think that I am a bad person, just because I could have done things better.
I guess that is partially the distinction that the moderators are making, between criticism and insults.