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    RedSox reacted to richinspain in El DerbyCo   
    I read the report as we currently lease Moor Farm anyway.
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    RedSox reacted to Heisenberg in El DerbyCo   
    The bloke sure does talk a lot for saying no further comment was to be made until the transaction was complete.
    Been all over the Spanish/English press since news broke on Wednesday!
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    RedSox reacted to enachops in What now for Mac?   
    I think the whole coaching set up needs looking at in the summer. It is seriously lacking in experience. 
    Rooney - rookie
    Rosenior - rookie, this is his first year as main first team coach.
    Walker - first year in a first team set up.
    When Rooney was appointed, I was OK with it as long as he had an experienced no.2 e.g McClaren, Phelan etc. For me, McClaren would be ideal in that role, his main strength is as a coach. Get him back on the grass with Rooney. His current role, whatever that is, doesn’t play to his main strengths for me. Either way we need some experience in the dugout/on the training ground next season. 
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    RedSox reacted to Van der MoodHoover in El DerbyCo   
    😍😍

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    RedSox reacted to hintonsboots in Abu Derby County   
    Mel is standing between the club and administration until new owners come in, so giving his full financial support.
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    RedSox reacted to Tamworthram in Abu Derby County   
    We’re in a mess but I’m not convinced it’s fair to say Mel has no interest in the club.
    By the way, the “h” key on your keyboard seems to be failing.😀
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    RedSox reacted to Spanish in Abu Derby County   
    Football should be keeping its own house in order.  At the top end it is awash with money that normal businesses could only ever dream about.  I guess the government would look on giving funds away to an extremely wealthy industry as unlikely to be a vote winner.  There should be a levy on the wealthy clubs to keep the league structure in place, oh but wait a moment, they couldn't give a poo
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    RedSox reacted to Reggie Greenwood in New management team required - NOW   
    League one champs fair enough 
    won championship due to breaking ffp 
    think you being very generous and I haven’t seen the quotes re Leics Prem win. Pearson himself denied this. Rainieri set them up differently. 
    My recollection of his time at Derby was a disaster , poor football , signing of Anya ( took another year for Vydra to come good ) and his sacking was for undisclosed disciplinary reasons which Pearson never appealed. Rumours of  disciplinary reasons at Watford as well. 
    Nothing to do with Mel’s ego more Pearson’s if anyone. 
    He is known as a strange character and lives up to that.
    No success anywhere apart from Leicester , he did well for them no doubt but he would not have been one at Derby and I very much doubt he will be a success anywhere in the future. 
    So no I wouldn't prefer him to the current manager who I will judge next season not this. 
    You using the term idiot to describe Rooney Is very disrespectful
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    RedSox reacted to Van der MoodHoover in New management team required - NOW   
    Absolutely no new facts in that piece. Just a hypothesis based upon already known facts. 
    No insight is given into Mel and Wayne's relationship at all. 
    It's a sad indictment of the state of British journalism when someone can cut and paste a few snippets together and come up with a pretty obvious hypothesis that is vague but not in itself damaging enough to justify action by Wayne or Derby. 
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    RedSox got a reaction from Tyler Durden in Mel had a dream   
    Hinsdight is such a wonderful gift. 
    With access to the kind of money we had and trusting the recruitment team knew what they were doing, despite my modest intellect and experience of building businesses, I can't say I'd have done any different than to write the cheques based on the recommendations of managers & recruitment teams.
    It's so easy to look back at signings and lay blame at Mel's door.  There is a premise in business that the likes of Richard Branson subscribe to, saying that you empower people to make thier own decisions and learn from any resulting mistakes.  It may well be that this was Mel's error - trusting people to make the right decisions on recruitment and just perhaps, they have let him down.
    It's too easy to blame an exiting owner for past mistakes and without real inside knowledge, none of us can really be certain what happened.  Maybe he was too personally and emotionally tied in to the mission of getting us promotion, to be ruthlessly objective.  I doubt I would be able to avoid being sucked into the dream of my home town club getting to 'the promised land'.  Yes, he made mistakes and that has hurt us all - him included, let's not forget that.
    Of course, for those of you who have never made a mistake in life, have at it!  I can see why you may feel that he's brought this on himself and is the primary cause of our demise.  
    For me, I will always respect what Mel tried to do for the club.  In some areas, we've made massive strides.  In the key 'goal' of promotion, yes we failed.  That's life.  We're still here and in the cliched parlance, we go again (next year).  
     
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    RedSox got a reaction from derby8 in Mel had a dream   
    Hinsdight is such a wonderful gift. 
    With access to the kind of money we had and trusting the recruitment team knew what they were doing, despite my modest intellect and experience of building businesses, I can't say I'd have done any different than to write the cheques based on the recommendations of managers & recruitment teams.
    It's so easy to look back at signings and lay blame at Mel's door.  There is a premise in business that the likes of Richard Branson subscribe to, saying that you empower people to make thier own decisions and learn from any resulting mistakes.  It may well be that this was Mel's error - trusting people to make the right decisions on recruitment and just perhaps, they have let him down.
    It's too easy to blame an exiting owner for past mistakes and without real inside knowledge, none of us can really be certain what happened.  Maybe he was too personally and emotionally tied in to the mission of getting us promotion, to be ruthlessly objective.  I doubt I would be able to avoid being sucked into the dream of my home town club getting to 'the promised land'.  Yes, he made mistakes and that has hurt us all - him included, let's not forget that.
    Of course, for those of you who have never made a mistake in life, have at it!  I can see why you may feel that he's brought this on himself and is the primary cause of our demise.  
    For me, I will always respect what Mel tried to do for the club.  In some areas, we've made massive strides.  In the key 'goal' of promotion, yes we failed.  That's life.  We're still here and in the cliched parlance, we go again (next year).  
     
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    RedSox got a reaction from Carnero in Mel had a dream   
    Hinsdight is such a wonderful gift. 
    With access to the kind of money we had and trusting the recruitment team knew what they were doing, despite my modest intellect and experience of building businesses, I can't say I'd have done any different than to write the cheques based on the recommendations of managers & recruitment teams.
    It's so easy to look back at signings and lay blame at Mel's door.  There is a premise in business that the likes of Richard Branson subscribe to, saying that you empower people to make thier own decisions and learn from any resulting mistakes.  It may well be that this was Mel's error - trusting people to make the right decisions on recruitment and just perhaps, they have let him down.
    It's too easy to blame an exiting owner for past mistakes and without real inside knowledge, none of us can really be certain what happened.  Maybe he was too personally and emotionally tied in to the mission of getting us promotion, to be ruthlessly objective.  I doubt I would be able to avoid being sucked into the dream of my home town club getting to 'the promised land'.  Yes, he made mistakes and that has hurt us all - him included, let's not forget that.
    Of course, for those of you who have never made a mistake in life, have at it!  I can see why you may feel that he's brought this on himself and is the primary cause of our demise.  
    For me, I will always respect what Mel tried to do for the club.  In some areas, we've made massive strides.  In the key 'goal' of promotion, yes we failed.  That's life.  We're still here and in the cliched parlance, we go again (next year).  
     
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    RedSox got a reaction from Pearl Ram in Mel had a dream   
    Hinsdight is such a wonderful gift. 
    With access to the kind of money we had and trusting the recruitment team knew what they were doing, despite my modest intellect and experience of building businesses, I can't say I'd have done any different than to write the cheques based on the recommendations of managers & recruitment teams.
    It's so easy to look back at signings and lay blame at Mel's door.  There is a premise in business that the likes of Richard Branson subscribe to, saying that you empower people to make thier own decisions and learn from any resulting mistakes.  It may well be that this was Mel's error - trusting people to make the right decisions on recruitment and just perhaps, they have let him down.
    It's too easy to blame an exiting owner for past mistakes and without real inside knowledge, none of us can really be certain what happened.  Maybe he was too personally and emotionally tied in to the mission of getting us promotion, to be ruthlessly objective.  I doubt I would be able to avoid being sucked into the dream of my home town club getting to 'the promised land'.  Yes, he made mistakes and that has hurt us all - him included, let's not forget that.
    Of course, for those of you who have never made a mistake in life, have at it!  I can see why you may feel that he's brought this on himself and is the primary cause of our demise.  
    For me, I will always respect what Mel tried to do for the club.  In some areas, we've made massive strides.  In the key 'goal' of promotion, yes we failed.  That's life.  We're still here and in the cliched parlance, we go again (next year).  
     
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    RedSox got a reaction from angieram in Mel had a dream   
    Hinsdight is such a wonderful gift. 
    With access to the kind of money we had and trusting the recruitment team knew what they were doing, despite my modest intellect and experience of building businesses, I can't say I'd have done any different than to write the cheques based on the recommendations of managers & recruitment teams.
    It's so easy to look back at signings and lay blame at Mel's door.  There is a premise in business that the likes of Richard Branson subscribe to, saying that you empower people to make thier own decisions and learn from any resulting mistakes.  It may well be that this was Mel's error - trusting people to make the right decisions on recruitment and just perhaps, they have let him down.
    It's too easy to blame an exiting owner for past mistakes and without real inside knowledge, none of us can really be certain what happened.  Maybe he was too personally and emotionally tied in to the mission of getting us promotion, to be ruthlessly objective.  I doubt I would be able to avoid being sucked into the dream of my home town club getting to 'the promised land'.  Yes, he made mistakes and that has hurt us all - him included, let's not forget that.
    Of course, for those of you who have never made a mistake in life, have at it!  I can see why you may feel that he's brought this on himself and is the primary cause of our demise.  
    For me, I will always respect what Mel tried to do for the club.  In some areas, we've made massive strides.  In the key 'goal' of promotion, yes we failed.  That's life.  We're still here and in the cliched parlance, we go again (next year).  
     
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    RedSox got a reaction from eccles the ram in Mel had a dream   
    Hinsdight is such a wonderful gift. 
    With access to the kind of money we had and trusting the recruitment team knew what they were doing, despite my modest intellect and experience of building businesses, I can't say I'd have done any different than to write the cheques based on the recommendations of managers & recruitment teams.
    It's so easy to look back at signings and lay blame at Mel's door.  There is a premise in business that the likes of Richard Branson subscribe to, saying that you empower people to make thier own decisions and learn from any resulting mistakes.  It may well be that this was Mel's error - trusting people to make the right decisions on recruitment and just perhaps, they have let him down.
    It's too easy to blame an exiting owner for past mistakes and without real inside knowledge, none of us can really be certain what happened.  Maybe he was too personally and emotionally tied in to the mission of getting us promotion, to be ruthlessly objective.  I doubt I would be able to avoid being sucked into the dream of my home town club getting to 'the promised land'.  Yes, he made mistakes and that has hurt us all - him included, let's not forget that.
    Of course, for those of you who have never made a mistake in life, have at it!  I can see why you may feel that he's brought this on himself and is the primary cause of our demise.  
    For me, I will always respect what Mel tried to do for the club.  In some areas, we've made massive strides.  In the key 'goal' of promotion, yes we failed.  That's life.  We're still here and in the cliched parlance, we go again (next year).  
     
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    RedSox reacted to Topram in Jordon Ibe   
    Picture of him training with the first side and another of him with king Bucko in the background 
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    RedSox reacted to Wignall12 in Abu Derby County   
    Seen 'em do it twice already !!
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    RedSox reacted to S8TY in New management team required - NOW   
    Looking at today’s game every player to me gave it 100 per cent whether they played well or not I didn’t see players hiding and I certainly don’t see a “dressing room lost” situation 
    i wish we as fans could be there to support our team because they need it but in my opinion we are clearly not good enough going forward , you don’t have to be a football genius to see that clearly 
    we do have Lawrence back and he looked bright today but here’s another player constantly berated by fans on here but I believe he’s our answer to a few goals or creating a few 
    what is disappointing is the fact we never addressed our attacking options in the window  as we are missing pace up front but let’s get one thing straight ...there is no lack of effort amongst the players they are giving there all as far as I can see but we are woefully short going forward and relying on CKR too much who was clearly not fit today 
    and as for Waggy a player I think gets a lot of unfair abuse ...if Rooney wants to say he hasn’t been good enough in training so be it ....we need everyone pulling in the right direction and if he isn’t then leave him out ...he won’t be here next season and his best days are well behind him ...Rooney calls it how it is and I don’t mind that ....players know if you don’t put it in you don’t play and Rooney said this when he took over.
    Now is not the time to be questioning whether he stays or goes that needs to be done at the end of the season but in the meantime we need everyone pulling together .....in the same direction ...instead of slagging Rooney off for being honest how about ask why Waghorn is not doing his best in training ?
    we,ve had far too many comfortable players not being good enough when it matters and if Waggy never plays another game that’ll be down to himself 
    The summer will be crucial and next season we will see a very different team
    Matt Clarke is an absolute colossus for us and hope we sign him permanently and make him captain that’s the starting point in the summer for me then get some new faces in as this season is all about staying up ....and we will ....
     
     
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    RedSox reacted to LeedsCityRam in New management team required - NOW   
    Im inclined to give Rooney the rest of the season to turn it round given his overall record to date & the league position we were in when he started but surely can be no doubt he has to go if we get relegated.
    As others have pointed out, Cocu got this squad to 10th last year...the major differences being Martin replaced by Kazim, Byrne for Bogle & no Rooney ambling around the pitch. Doesn't seem a dramatic drop in quality.
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    RedSox reacted to TexasRam in v Stoke City (A) - Matchday Thread   
    Yeah agree with this, I wish we’d go out all guns blazing not giving a stuff about how the opponents plays/lines up. Just take it to some one, go for it, I’d love that and actually think it would do us some good. 
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    RedSox reacted to Bald Eagle's Barmy Army in New management team required - NOW   
    Short term or long term, Rooney doesn’t look the answer. 
     
    One of the things I like about a manager is when you can see them helping the players on the pitch. I’ve not seen that once from him and this team needs guidance. But at the minute, it’s the blind leading the blind. 
     
    I mean look at Justin Walker, what advice can he really help Rooney with? He’s got no experience himself 
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    RedSox reacted to LittleEatonRam in New management team required - NOW   
    Ever since Rooney walked into this club everything has been about him. The media coverage, the fans' attention, the team selection, the decision to appoint him manager. He's had it all his own way.
    Played like garbage under his manager but guaranteed a start nonetheless, clearly eyed up the manager's job from the get go and, as always, has gotten exactly what he wanted.
    I'm absolutely sick of this club and its fanbase being in thrall to celebrity players who didn't know or care we existed until we offered them a job. Whoever the new owners are I hope they don't make decisions based on publicity anymore.
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    RedSox reacted to Coconut in v Stoke City (A) - Matchday Thread   
    Just a little bit ducking ironic given Rooney's own performances and attitude as a player at the end of last season and this.
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    RedSox reacted to LeedsCityRam in v Stoke City (A) - Matchday Thread   
    Another thoroughly dull afternoon capped off with a soft goal to lose the match.
    Honestly not sure what Rooney is seeing in some of these line ups. Start Kazim who clearly looked unfit & then spend the match punting mindless hoofball in his general direction. Stoke play deep & have a static midfield...so we play Knight & Shinnie, who spend the first 45 mins sitting on top of the centre halves & losing the ball constantly. Not a big fan of Waghorn but was it really necessary to drop him from the matchday squad for Cameron Cresswell?!?
    Quality wise it was very like Barnsley away but without the extenuating circumstances of awful weather. Kazim, Sibley & Roberts got very little quality into them first half & not surprisingly, we lacked any control of the match. Stoke were hardly inspired either but were given the ball back time & time again.
    Second half started slightly better with Knight pushing up...Sibley finally got involved in the match with a snapshot just wide & Kazim fashioned himself a chance with a fantastic touch. Got no idea how Shinnie & Knight stayed on the pitch whilst Sibley & Roberts were hauled off...a total lack of ambition & we paid for that shortly after with our obligatory glaring defensive error. Commentary summed it up by saying it was 'very difficult for Derby to come back from this'...there was 15 mins to play (20 including injury time) & we were only one down!!
    The key to staying up is to score goals & win matches. Its high time Rooney & his coaching team gave priority to this.
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    RedSox reacted to Patrick Rams in v Stoke City (A) - Matchday Thread   
    Shocking to hear a senior player is kicked out of the squad because of not even putting the effort in training.There seems to be a nasty smell coming from the dressing room which doesn't bode well for the rest of the season.Desparate times at Pride Park.
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