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I went to Ilkeston Town today, won 3-2 after being two nil down at half time. Connor Dixon played the whole match (no. 8). Had a great second half, set up Leroy Lita for a goal

Good to see Collins and Dobbin scoring today. Very frustrating that we didn’t get anything out of this game. 

Take it as a wake up call. I still think we will get promoted and must keep aiming for the top 2. Who’d have thought in the depths of despair we were in last year we’d be whining about  coming off a 16 game unbeaten run. Still f***** hate Wycombe and their glam rock time wasting manager and horrible chairman.

Please what is the point of your post on a Derby forum? Your owner did his best to vindictively finish our club permanently when we were at our lowest point without any thought for the effect on innocent fans and employees. There is no justification if someone is any kind of football fan. My family will never forgive or forget his actions. And I still cant be bothered to learn the name of a man who is the planet's lowest form of excrement

He won’t. They have no justification for anything. Even if we had been deducted points in that season for not breaking any rules whatsoever then the other teams at the bottom would have played differently. Wycombe only started picking up points when they were already relegated which is also conveniently forgotten. They are parasites. I sincerely hope anyone lucky enough to get a ticket today refuses to spend a single penny on the ground. Remember that they only jumped in the spurious compensation bandwagon when we were in administration and couldn’t fight back. Parasites. 

It’s Liverpool U18 2-3 Derby County U18
Team line-ups and other stats here: https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/02/11/england/premier-academy-league/liverpool-fc-under-18-academy/derby-county-fc-under-18-academy/3895995/
 

U18's 3-1 up at Liverpool at halftime. Maloney, Fapetu and Brown with the goals. 
https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1624390438592413699?t=cTPLJLjPWmL0Rg5irwuV8w&s=19

- Eiran Cashin. Well on the way to becoming a Derby County legend.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64539624
 

Yep, Warney has been superb. I am back to the time I almost expect us to win every game like under Steve Mac 1. Shout out for Liam mind. He took over Hull and they were around the bottom 3. Now they are just 4 points off the play offs ?

Conor Hourihane explained what it is like to work with Warne when he guested on Not The Top 20 Podcast’s YouTube channel.
He said: “He is different in terms of how he goes about his day-to-day business with players. “I think his ultimate strength in my opinion is his man management. “Speaking from my experience, he’s only been warm and caring and loving towards me since he’s come in, I think he’s been like that with everyone. “He’s regularly texting lads, regularly praising guys and he knows how to get the best out of players.
“He’s so hands-on with players, he’s different to what I’ve had previously and I’ve got an amazing connection with him. “I really respect him as a man first and foremost and how he handles guys, and how he handles players. “He’s got a team around him that I thrive off. Richie Barker on the coaching side of things, he’s really good as a coach, Hammy’s (Matt Hamshaw) the same, they’ve got a really good balance in their team of coaches.
“They’ve all got their strengths and the manager leads them to bring out their strengths. “They know how to get that balance right and they work well together and the lads absolutely love working with them everyday.” 

Didn't finish this sentence in my previous post so here it is in full...
What I feel they should have done was to have told us we couldn't use it anymore and that, either from the 20/21 season or the 21/22 season we should have reverted to linear depreciation. That would have been fair under the circumstances.

The rules were retrospectively changed to include banning the depreciation method. A method MM told them we were ging to use back in 2015. Why did it take them 4 years to decide there was something "iffy" with the method? The 12 point administration penalty was, using hindsight, inevitable as the debt was unsustainable and MM couldn't/wouldn't continue to pay for the mess he'd made. IMO we got screwed over with the other 9 point FFP penalty. We had stayed, very narrowly, within FFP limits by the depreciation method and the sale of the ground. To me, an advocate of natural justice, the EFL should have recognised their culpability in accepting the method in 4 years' accounts before finally deciding they didn't like it. They used a blanket, cover any and all eventualities clause that gives them carte blanche to take action if they believe something, although not specifically banned, gives a club an unfair advantage. What I feel they should have done was to have told us we couldn't use it anymore and that, either from the 20/21 season or the 21/22 season. We would have been the first club to survive a 12 point deduction. The whole thing would have been sorted much earlier, we'd still be a Championship side and Gibson wouldn't have liked the outcome. A definite win=win situation ?

Of course we were, they retrospectively changed the rules after we were punished that weren’t actually rules at the time we committed the ‘offences’, and then changed other rules after we were punished in order to allow other clubs to not get punished.
They were able to bully other, smaller clubs into oblivion and tried to do the same to us, but they bit off more than they could chew, making themselves look like the incompetent organisation that they are, in front of the whole country, Parliament etc.
Unfortunately now that the furore has died down they’ve crawled back under their rock, and we’ve got on with our business of playing football again. IMO It would have been nice to have done something on the anniversary of the March to remind everyone of what a useless organisation they are, but in retrospect it’s probably better that we do keep our heads down for a while.
If there’s any good that comes out of our predicament, hopefully it’s that no club will have to go through what we’ve been through, that they should be helping clubs survive when they get into financial trouble and not turning the screw on them like they have done up to now.

Remember his message on leaving, he said all the right things, including Derby being the first result he would look for.
He was sincere and whole hearted in his thoughts about us, always wished us well since.
Top man is Jody, hope he does well for himself. If he does, I’d not mind him back here one day.

Martin is much more like Didzy than Collins

For me it’s not the way the EFL have treated us so much it’s how they have treated other clubs who are in similar strait’s because consistency is totally missing with a climate of totally changing the so called rules and interpretations.
The worse thing - the absolute worst thing was the EFL allowing a situation to occur where we were being blackmailed with the very existence of our football club because of the actions of the owners of Middlesbrough and Wycombe football clubs. 

I think the EFL rules preventing DCFC from extending the contracts of Academy professionals on low wages and offering professional contracts to players turning 17 robbed DCFC of sufficient players to run functioning teams below 1st team level, put additional strain on those youngsters left behind, presented bargains to clubs that we owed nothing to, and potentially robbed unsecured creditors from receiving further funds over and above what any prospective owner was willing to pay (eg : if DCFC had been able to extend Ebosele's  contract on the proviso that any profit from a future transfer was split in an agreed proportion between the club and unsecured creditors, it would at least have meant potentially more money for creditors and no unearned bargain for Udineseford. It would also have meant that, in the event that the club was liquidated, the EFL would have been able to claim higher compensation from any club wishing to acquire their registrations). Their short-sighted rule also, in the case of Ebosele, meant that his Irish club missed out on a healthy sell-on fee. 
 

Unless he had a spare £50m+ burning a hole in his back pocket, I suspect not.  It was a matter of time until HMRC or MSD came calling for what we owe them.  And having the stadium and training ground repossessed by MSD possibly would have put us in a worse position.
In terms of the EFL, there's no doubt we were badly treated.  Having the ground valued by a guy that knew nothing about valuing sports stadiums.  The amortization charge off the back of an "expert" who literally did not know the rules he was supposedly an expert on. Points deductions for offences under rules that were subsequently changed to make sure other clubs didn't break them.  Various demands that the administrators break the law or they'd kick us out of the league.  Rewriting administration law on a whim to benefit the  parasite clubs.  An apparently harsher enforced business-plan than any other club has been forced under.  I could go on...

I suppose we can only truly answer that question when another club enter a similar position and we see how they are treated. I will forever feel as though the EFL wanted us gone, I may be wrong but I reserve the right to forever feel it. I dont regret for a moment fantasizing about giving Rick Parry a lift and then dropping him off at Snake Pass, blaming him more than the Teeside Dog Botherer and that Carpark magnate for this sense that we got extra punative measures.
But consider this. Without pushing us to the brink, helping to bleed us to a point that debts are massive and there were no saleable assets to resolve it, pushing us to a point where only someone so obsessed with Derby they name their dog 'Hector' would step forward; would we be Mike Ashley's DCFC now? Or worse?
Yes I feel the EFL acquiesced to Wycomes and Middlesborough's wish to eliminate a rival business, but if they hadn't then right now it could have been worse.

Wasn’t last night just a reality check? We are a pretty good LEAGUE 1 Team, with a few players of Championship quality. We are currently nowhere near being able to compete against strong Premier League opposition, indeed a few injuries to key players and we are unlikely to be able to compete against strong League 1 opposition. Warne appears to be getting us organised - that was again evident last night - but two key players were ‘off’ last night which made the game impossible, especially with McGoldrick lame. Let’s continue to enjoy the fact that we have a very strong club, and a highly committed group of players and coaching staff. I remain confident, based on what I have seen over recent weeks, that Warne will have us ready for a really good go at play-off success come season end. A couple of additions today would be ideal (decent forward, and versatile defender).

Well, they were promoted because they had Stevie Wonder as ref with Ray Charles running the line at Wembley, but sort of get your point.  ?

Been there so many times myself.
Love the family, but working and staying away, on expenses, does have it's advantages.
I was working in Hull when we played Manure in the cup a few years back, and we beat them on penalties in a crazy game. Watched it in a pub, only Derby fan there, with the almost inevitable sprinkling of Manure fans (that had probably never been to Old Trafford) giving it large. The landlord and locals though all wanted Derby to win. That penalty shoot out was something else. The pub emptied as soon as we won, but the landlord gave me free beer for the rest of the evening.
Almost as good as being at the game.

Let’s hope similar childish rubbish doesn’t happen tomorrow night and it’s all about the football

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