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Do you think Mel would accept it if the Binnie Family only rent the stadium for the foreseeable? He might want it purchased of him now!

They still haven't got it through their thick skulls. No PB is going to sit through a legal mediation with Boro and Wycombe because that could mean they're liable for those costs. 

The article on the BBC on Monday about taking out an injunction on these claims seems feasible now. No way will these claims be compromised any other way. 

Ed should have said to him one of the reasons the case by the LAP took so long was because of Boro and they were laughed out of court. He seemed completely oblivious to that, I don't know how he didn't bring that up.

Also going on about Wycombe being in first throughout the season. Didn't they finish like 7th/8th and played one less game than the team in 6th. Ed should have tore him apart on that. Just because you were first at some stage of the season is completely insignificant. They bloke is a Yankee Saul Goodman chancer.

Vendetta - there are countless examples

1. Brought a case against the club for PP sale and amortisation policy after signing both off. Had incompetent experts witnesses. Were forced into doing this by the muppet Gibson.

2. LAP finds us gulity of over estimating player values without an accounting expert on the panel. 

3. Having us over the barrel when we went into admin, and having to accept a 9 point deduction. Reading only got 6. 

4. Transfer Embargo and not being able to play some academy players, when Reading can go out and get Drinkwater and Carroll.

5. Now this crap, having to sell players to survive until the end of the season, because of stupid claims.

In conclusion a vendetta yes.

5 hours ago, Quagga said:

Can we also talk about the referee

Felt he let a lot of stuff go, especially Sharp's  assault on Byne.
The irony being that at the end he spotted the Festy trip, showing he did have peripheral vision after all.

The bit I wasn't clear on was the rule around interfering with play which i think changed recently.  One time he actively stood in Bird's way  and blocked him from the ball enabling United and a couple of other times he seemed to just get  in the way.  I thought if that happened it was apologies all round and a drop ball  but clearly not

 

Did the bloke who fouled Festy leading to our second get yellow carded?

I'm drunk now after todays great win, but I really hope now something can be done to sort out this mess.

Signed ?

Just now, rammieib said:

I posted that before the transfer news. That’s what I meant by a lack of Shinnie.

First Jags and now Shinnie. It has been a really rough 24 hours. At least Cardiff are losing

3 minutes ago, BriggRam said:

There is nothing on SSN or the BBC sports news or any other news outlet about our situation, no one is highlighting or ivestigating it, ........only when we are gone will they make news of it, and they will poor compassion.........Arsenal trying to pull out of there game against Spurs is more important than the death of Derby County

The media don't care about clubs outside of the Premier League, especially ones that have been out of it as long as we have. Unfortunately we would only be a tiny blemish on their news feed if the worst was to happen.

Feeling completely deflated by the whole situation. Don't know how we get around these claims, without it taking time, which we don't have. Hopefully something can be done like an injunction or something to stop these claims preventing our takeover. 

5 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said:

Listen up people..this is fact, Ive just had an email from a very reliable source...please read this is NO wind up.

 

Ok… here goes… the first part you’ll know and probably have read but the other comes from the Admin who spoke to my friend directly this morning. This is my written explanation of what he told me so my words not his…

 

So it seems that the administrators went to the meeting with the EFL yesterday with the expectation that they would leave the meeting being able to name the PB. To do this the EFL stated that DCFC had to fulfil their obligation to show proof of funds and see out the season. Q said we’ll do this via loans until the point at which we name the PB, after which they will put £X of million into the club to see it through to the end of the season – sound plan and one that gives everyone hope / optimism / security. The EFL then said ‘what about the Middlesbrough and Wycombe claims?’ Q answered that ‘legally’ that has no authority and even if it did then they were very confident that they would win the case based on the reality that it has no factual merit and their advice, plus they have followed instruction and rules. The EFL then took the stance that ‘well until this is resolved you cannot name the PB’ which may well be in breach of their own rule book and is certainly a subjective take on how to apply things. Essentially; they are able do what they want and definitely interpret things under the banner of doing so on behalf of their members (excluding Derby obvs). This has caused the latest stand-off and today’s repercussions re. Jagielka.

 

What the Admin / my pal’s take is, is that there is a definite agenda here to punish Derby as heavily as possible. The fact that they have earned the points they have and have bread hope, has in turn led to the feeling that the punishment is not strong enough and that this could set a dangerous precedent for other clubs to break the rules (should Derby achieve the impossible). Clubs are obviously bitter about that and in some ways, I think that’s fair enough and we’d likely feel the same. The issue now quickly shifts towards the fact that the EFL are using these claims as a delaying tactic to push Derby into more uncertainty and force them to either sell players very cheaply (which devalues the club) or persuade the new PB to pay off Middlesbrough and Wycombe (despite the fact there is little legal standing to their claims and the fact the EFL are largely responsible for the delayed timing of the second). My take on that is that whilst morally these clubs, others in the league and the EFL have reason to be pissed off with Derby – it’s a very legally problematic, ambiguous and negatively motivated way of enforcing them – it’s not based on the law nor is it objective / balanced. I’m sure that if there were more time available then Admin would fight it and win but that doesn’t appear to be an option given certain deadlines that are needed to be met.

 

What he also said was that the Admin have firm proof that the EFL are directly leaking stories to the press – in particular John Percy and specifically via Trevor Birch – for their own agenda.

 

Where this leaves things is anyone’s guess. There’s definitely a feel within the club that the players, staff and admin are all pulling for the same thing (as are the fans) but the EFL are hell bent on crushing them. Had we earned no points and been adrift then I’m sure none of this would have happened as relegation would have been the punishment, they felt appropriate. The key to unlocking the situation seems to be resolving the the claims by M and W. The fact that they are allowed to get away with this and have the backing of the EFL stinks to poo imo and may well be illegal, even if there is some moral merit surely this sets a crazy precedent for every other similar situation in future?

 

This is definitely the best explanation for today's events 

Oh my God, what an equaliser by Davies. I ducking love this team

Keep the faith folks. We're playing OK and they've scored a worldie. Ravel and CKR to come on and change the game like the previous two games ?

It was a thing of beauty! 

If we negotiate some sort of settlement with Boro and Wycombe, will we not then be able to bring these football clubs to court in the future?

'Expect' and 'hopeful' have replaced 48 hours. I never thought I'd miss the days where we debated whether to stick Dean Moxey at left back or up front.

Wycombe should be sueing Boro over their claims against us. One of the reasons we weren't deducted points last season was for Boro pursuing their appeal against the charges we were not found guilty of back in Sept 2020. Then only post season we found out that their spurious claim held back the decision to deduct points from us last season. God I hate these two football clubs.

I hope Bielik is fit for the rearranged fixture 

25 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

I believe @angieram said not, hence you could buy Rams TV coverage (which would be annoyingly extra if you have paid for sky). 

? Rams TV it is then

Anyone know if they're showing it on the sky red button?

What's so great about this squad of players is, any time we've had a bid of a setback whether that be a points deduction or covid outbreak, we've bounced back with a win thereafter.

Good to get the win. Keep fighting ? COYR

I'm past the stage of caring what Mel had to say. He's just trying to apportion the blame to everyone bar himself. 

41 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Im not sure that is the case, the statement said a permitted player is someone who has 3+ starts at current or higher level then states the below. No mention of when the agreement was made with regards the permitted players -

 

3.1 the Club will be permitted to have registered at any one time no more than 25 Permitted Players;

If we are only able to start him once more, we better use it wisely!