JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta

56 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

Am sure Warne said last night that we were outbid for a player by a team in the same league as us

And? It doesn't magically alter the fact that we've got resources that most L1 clubs could only dream of. 

So we got outbid for a striker, oh well. Was that the only striker we could possibly sign? Of course not.

4 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Relative to the league we are in, yes. Warne has a squad that is as good as, if not better than they had relative to the league they were in.

The idea that Warne is some impoverished coach with no resources and a begging bowl is utter nonsense. Our wage bill (even on our business plan), pulling power as a club (purely on size), facilities etc eclipse the rest of the division with maybe one or two exceptions.

We are currently less than the sum our parts and ultimately the buck stops with the manager.

Oh and for anyone saying my expectations should be more realistic, Warne has said a few times that they want to be, and are aiming to be in the top two. Should his expectations be more realistic as well then? 

23 minutes ago, secretsquirrel said:

players have been giving the ball away so much in the last few games-Warne cannot be blamed for that-they need to take a bit of responsibility.

He has to take a share of the responsibility because if he is telling them to get the ball out wide or up the pitch as quickly as possible the players are required to attempt riskier passes in to contested areas of the pitch more frequently.

The tactical setup is the reason we have chaotic pinball matches. 

Now, I agree that the players are executing poorly, but that just compounds the issues with the tactical setup.

53 minutes ago, On the Ram Page said:

So do you think the players we currently have now are as good as we had during the years you mentioned. The answer is emphatically NO. So why do you expect them to play like them. The fact is we no longer have money to throw around, have a shoestring budget currently and cannot afford the type of players you want. This is a time for patience, understanding and support for the Club/team - not beating everyone up because we are not as good as we were in the hay days. We were nearly “no longer” - people need to get realistic!.

Relative to the league we are in, yes. Warne has a squad that is as good as, if not better than they had relative to the league they were in.

The idea that Warne is some impoverished coach with no resources and a begging bowl is utter nonsense. Our wage bill (even on our business plan), pulling power as a club (purely on size), facilities etc eclipse the rest of the division with maybe one or two exceptions.

We are currently less than the sum our parts and ultimately the buck stops with the manager.

9 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

Out of interest, which Derby sides have you enjoyed watching?

Teams playing football under Jim Smith, George Burley, Steve McLaren were all good to watch. 

The simple fact is that we are in the third tier and making hard work of it. I think our points total is higher than our performances have warranted. Warne might be the man to get us out of L1 (although that remains to be seen) but he is quite clearly not the man to take us any further than that.

A man as smart as Clowes must be able to see it. I refuse to believe he has a Paul Warne shaped blind spot.

I've argued that Warne is not the right man for us consistently for quite some time now, and in that time Ive tried to condense my argument down in to something as concise as possible in an effort to make it simple to understand.

I think it's as simple as this, do I enjoy watching Derby County play and do I feel like the personnel we have in place are suitable for the short, medium and long term ambitions of the club?

I currently do not enjoy watching Derby play. The performance levels are among the worst I've seen in my life outside of the 11 point season. In terms of our ambitions I will concede that in the short term Warne might get us promoted from L1, I believe that would be in spite of him not because of him. In the medium/long term I have absolutely no faith in his ability to take us beyond being a lower end, relegation threatened Championship team and we surely want more than that?

The 90 minute process I'm following in recent weeks.

13 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

So we obviously are skint and the likelihood of further incomings this January are slim.

If we are skint then it follows that Warne won't be going anywhere any time soon.

Who seems unwilling or unable to change the modus operandi of his team.

So what changes then?

Our chances of finishing in the top two?

Both goals excellent. Credit to Warne for changing things and changing the game but he really, really, really needs to address the midfield problems we are having.

Warne simply has to address the midfield. It's a glaring issue that until late in the game today he has simply refused to address 

Just now, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Pompey pen

Scored

Pompey pen

I feel like we are winning in spite of our tactics not because of them

Lovely goal. A beautiful layer of papier mache over some massive cracks in the performance.

4 minutes ago, CapeTownRams said:

PW will love that …. Can just hear him now .:.:

If Warne wants the fans to get behind the team he needs to help give the fans something to get behind. His chaotic, kick and rush nonsense obviously ain't it.

I've seen jellyfish with more backbone than this squad.

Just now, LN747 said:

Could other managers improve us or make our performances more interesting?🤔 

The amount of games we have 0 shots is just bizarre- just shoot , you might get a deflection or lucky bounce , struth 

Of course they could. We are far less than the sum of our parts. Nothing will change until the manager changes.

A useless manager and an owner that bet the farm on him and is now stuck. What a position to be in.

Warne out. I don't care if we turn this game around. It's just the absolute worst dross I can recall us playing.

1 minute ago, Ramarena said:

HT seriously poor and the players leave to boos.

Completely outwitted tactically. 

They are doubling up on us in wide areas, so what do we do……….keep playing it wide as quickly as possible.

Sibley, Nelson and Cash are ok but the rest very poor.

We need to mix our play, Chelts know what we’re going to do and are managing us well.

The frequency with which Warne gets outwitted tactically is alarming given the level we are at. If he manages us in the second tier that's only going to become more of a problem.

3 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

In a word

Dull.

 

Worse than that, it's incompetence.

Either we are set up to play like this, which is management incompetence or the players are just doing it all wrong, which is their incompetence.

Just now, littleover ram said:

When’s the last time we had a first half lead in a game?

If I was a midfielder and we came to try and sign me I'd have serious reservations about it given the way we are playing.

Just now, S8TY said:

can’t wait to hear  excuses if we don’t win this …we really have become a League1 side 

 

Now, now! You can't expect too much from a club with one of the biggest wage budgets, the biggest ground, the best facilities and a manager with a track record of promotion.

It's your own fault for expecting too much!

Couldn't go today as I've got a sickness bug.

Well probably win handsomely now I'm stuck at home.