r_wilcockson

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59672468

One thing people aren't considering is compensation - it might be in the interest of Rooney and the club to go to Everton if we can get a couple of million compensation and means we don't have to sell players in Jan?

Just now, Rambalin said:

Nothing in that article that we have not known all along and potential buyers have not known.

Has for it not making business sense, buying and owning a football club at any level never does 

Another poor piece of journalism from the mail just regurgitating old news. 

I was thinking the same whilst reading the article as well, nothing in there is breaking news, it's just been published to emphasise the importance of the meeting with the taxman this week.

Obviously if HMRC insist on the amount being paid in full, a deal for the club will never go through. They also need to consider the wider effect of the club going under on other businesses etc.

Gut feel we will agree a deal for 25% up front and 25% spread over 10 years say - that way they aren't writing off more than half of what is owed. 

10 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

It wasn’t in the article itself, but in the comments. Matt Slater responding to someone who’d asked about Boro and Wycombe claims.

Here you go. 

Just perusing the BBC website whilst on my lunch break. I've become accustomed to going into the comments section on Derby articles and seeing comments in the mindset of "you deserve it" and the general laughing at us and no one liking Derby etc. Whereas after the result yesterday it's full of comments from people wishing us well and hoping we pull off the great escape (even from Forest fans!).

Hopefully us "taking our medicine" as some like to call it, looking to repair relations with the EFL and other clubs and showing fighting spirit starts to get us back on the road to where we were in 2013/14 as being everyone's second favourite team.

I know you don't get extra points for being likeable, but I've grown sick and tired of the mocking comments and ill-will over the last few years.

3 minutes ago, ilkleyram said:

The two things we must do - or at least Wayne must - is to say that while we can mathematically stay up then that is what we must try to do. Sport occasionally throws up strange results. It’s one of its beauties. 
The second thing is to learn the lesson of our 11 point season. We went into the next in a bad way. League 1 is a tough, tough league and we need to go into it in as good a place as we can. That means continuing to do as well as possible, not chucking the kids in but giving the ones that can cope the opportunity to develop their skills and career with positive experiences, not losing regularly. We play the best team we can, every match, and sort out next season when it comes.

And we fans not only need to continue to support the team as we (largely) have done, we also need to keep reminding the world of the incompetence of the EFL and their minions even when our garden is rosy again. As it will be.

Whilst it's virtually impossible that we still stay up, Reading for example have a 9 point deduction incoming, which brings the gap down to 16 points. There could be other teams as well which get hit? Have to keep going for it until mathematically impossible as suggested. 

Derby update: appeal over the -12 point deduction for entering administration has been adjourned. Genuine chance the appeal may be dropped altogether, with talks continuing between the EFL and #dcfc administrators. Re: club sale, 3-4 parties are in talks. Percy 

3 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Perhaps this link with Andy Appleby has legs. Appleby, Moxey, Rush plus A.N. Other with the latter an as yet unknown financial backer reputed to be a backer of significant means. Silver linings?

 

I do wonder if this was the "Dream" takeover which was mooted months ago.

3 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said:

My thoughts too...must have heard it wrong.

That's correct, but it's refundable if they decide not to persue further / don't end up becoming owners. If they do end up becoming owners, it would be used as part funding for the purchase I believe. 

Starting again for Poland tonight in their must win game. 

Just in case anyone has missed this whilst being hung up on Ashley:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16375191/wayne-rooney-Derby-efl-administration-deduction/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Just now, RadioactiveWaste said:

Any port in a storm me lads.

The worse case is it will be like the early GSE years with dull football and little hope of change except with sportsdirect.com branding everywhere. Best case, exactly the same but after Ashley has at least got us back in the championship.

It will be like the early GSE years whatever happens if we have to stick to an EFL approved 2 year business plan. We'd be reliant on Rooney staying and pulling rabbits out of the hat to punch above that. 

3 minutes ago, Rambam said:

Better the devil you know. Sports Direct are a Derbyshire based company. He could buy us for a fraction of what he just banked for Toon. 

My thoughts exactly, at least we know what we're getting and what the plan would likely be. 

For those that are interested, I've just been informed that the GK Kits are coming back in stock in December.

43 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

 

A mystery British interest you say..... ?

 

Sam Rush? 

1 minute ago, Rammy03 said:

 

Wasn't it £8m rising to £10m for Bielik? We won't have met any of the incentives, so probably more like £6m realistically we owe? If we also don't have to pay the full amount for Cocu it probably balances out (granted I haven't read the article due to the paywall). 

My heart thinks win, my head thinks it's Reading at home you fool! 

6 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

I’ve been vocal about how proud I am of our fans’ support this season. The singing has been pretty much non stop. I think it’s partly because there seems to be more younger fans (16-21) going at the minute.

However, there have also been a lot more unsavoury chants in recent months, generally led by that age range. Barely a game goes by without hearing songs about Nigel Doughty these days. And I must have heard the words “Billy Sharp” and “sex offender” 1,000 times yesterday.

Not sure there’s really a point to this post. Just an observation.

Get tanked up, can't handle their beer and ruin a day out for everyone else. 

1 hour ago, Truckle said:

Reasons to be cheerful

If we were not under an embargo, then we would almost certainly not have any of these players:

Curtis Davis

Phil Jagielka

Ravel Morrison

We would almost certainly not have seen:

Festy Ebosele

Louis Watson

Dylan Williams

Jack Stretton

And I don’t think we would have seen so much of Louis Sibley.

In a parallel universe, where we are not under an embargo we could quite easily have swapped them out for this lot.

Davis = Teden Meng

Jags = Matt Clarke

Ravel = Barry Bannon

Festy = George Edmonson

Dylan = Max Lowe

Jack = Sam Baldock (see what I mean!)

Louis Sibley = Sone Aluko

Pure conjecture but assuming we had I would say that would add up to a shed load of money for a marginal gain on what we have.  

Agreed Mel...

In all seriousness he has a point, it just depends what your ambitions are. I think we can survive this season, whilst developing the young players so they'll either be even better next season / we can sell on for a sizeable profit - that's the academy model. Not having these players, but then never giving them a chance and them all leaving on a free, whilst simultaneously splashing cash on players with little expected return for a perceived short term gain. 

If we'd stuck with the academy model for the last 5 years or so, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

2 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said:

So nothing confirmed yet at all. 

So The Mail have been making stuff up again... 

Irrelevant now anyway as they've only got kids sizes left in the goalkeeper kits ?

A few people have been taking from the published articles (mainly BBC) that our 2016-18 accounts are actually probably OK, but it's the yet to be submitted 2019-20 accounts which are the problem. If we have failed in those years and deserve to be punished then fair enough. What I don't get in all this though is that Reading are currently under a soft embargo due to breaking P&S, where's their points deduction?