Ramos

Administrators have just said that an extra 5000 tickets sold will make a massive difference to keeping the short term cash flow running, priority is to pay off HMRC who will hopefully do as they did for Wigan and Bolton and accept 25p or 30p in the pound, they are getting finance together to pay that off, making us very attractive to purchase !! so come on lets do our bit for our club !!! winning this is far bigger than winning at Wembley so dust off your shirts and get buying tickets all those that clammered for a ticket to London and the streets that were paved with gold !!!!
this is no fairytale its real so get behind our club !! COYR !!!!!!!!!!!

It’s going to be funny now if we see any news outlets suggest Derby are in for anyone. I wouldn’t put it past some of the ‘journos’ to still be dumb enough to suggest it. 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Could we retrospectively add a poll to this thread to gauge how many people who previously were staying away, not fussed etc about games this season are now going to come back to give whatever pennies they can to the club? Was thinking of doing it but felt this would be the best place. 
Couple of my friends who didn’t want to give a penny to Morris have now changed their tune and realised Derby county needs them - one has just bought a season ticket.
Time for the fans who can afford to, or aren’t avoiding big crowds due to COVID to come back and seperate Derby county from the off field issues -
Derby County is on the pitch and in the stands. UTRs 

Two mates are now on about getting season tickets who previously hadn’t considered it. Couple of others have mentioned they will now get to as many games as possible. Hopefully we can get those attendances right up again for the rest of the season to help this team and just to make sure the club gets as much revenue as we can give it. 

The administrators will initially try to put together an inventory of assets that they can potentially sell, as well as write to all known creditors advising them that the complany(ies) is in administration, and that all current sums payable are frozen until the administration ceases. Once they know what they have to sell, they will advertise the club for sale although are likely to be inundated with idiots and tyrekickers as well as legitimate buyers. Often they will ask for a deposit for exclusive rights to inspect the books from potential new owners. 
They will ask for a statement of affairs from management, this is a summary of the most recent management accounts and identify which, if any costs can be cut. There are likely to be redundancies as a result. 
They will also ask suppliers to sign new contracts with the administrators and guarantee payment for all future purchases during the course of the admin procedure. 
The most critical issue in the short term is that of finding funding. The wages have to be paid in September, and this will be challenging as it is a seven figure sum, with relatively few assets (property assets appear to be owned by Gellaw, which is not in administration) although there will be the residue of the season ticket money received pre appointment. In addition the administrators will estimate their fees, in the case of Wigan they were over £1.6m plus a one-third uplift upon completion of a successful sale, plus legal and other costs on a few hundred thousand. 
In the case of Wigan, the most recent football administration, things were easier because the club had property assets (it had two training grounds, one of which was sold to Preston for £1.5m) as well as plenty of players to sell (this generated £10m) as the admin took place in the summer during the transfer window. Derby's administrators have a disadvantage in both of these issues. 
Once Derby is sold the new owners will have to trade under a business plan agreed with the EFL, and a combination of the liquidators of the OldCo and the new owners need to pay all of the preferred creditors and a dividend of 25% of the unsecured creditors within two years or face a further 15 point penalty. 
Again here Derby's position is more challenging than that of Wigan, where (a) the club owner wrote off the debts due to him (b) Wigan had property assets to sell to the new club owners and (c) I think that HMRC were still unsecured creditors in 2020, so were only entitled to 25% of a much lower figure than the estimated (figure given on the podcast by RamsTrust) £26m owing to the tax authorities. The football creditors figure may be higher than in the case of Wigan too, though whether there are still monies owing to Keogh and whether they are deemed to be football or unsecured creditors is uncertain. 

Thanks for explaining - really appreciated. I’m still struggling to understand why at this point, Mel has decided to put the club (or at least imply the intention) in admin. As you say there’s no transfer window to even raise funds from player sales, from the very little squad we have. The picture just looks completely bleak. 

We need to aim to sell out every game. Not just one game.

Wish I could go to this one but going to a wedding, let’s bring the 3 points home! 

Two mates are now on about getting season tickets who previously hadn’t considered it. Couple of others have mentioned they will now get to as many games as possible. Hopefully we can get those attendances right up again for the rest of the season to help this team and just to make sure the club gets as much revenue as we can give it. 

No, it was certainly rumoured at the time. But then again Mel and Pearce also said that we were well inside FFP.

As someone who tried to pull together a crowd-funding campaign to buy Jason Shackell a toaster as a wedding gift from the fans when we were courting him for a second time, I know what a huge undertaking this is.
We'll never know if he got that toaster, but luckily it wasn't a barrier to him joining. Obviously he uses the grill. 
Fans didn't come through then. Hope we do now.

Charlie introducing our new business plan to the board 

I was sort of hoping we would actually talk about the administration and gain a better understanding of the process to come and some reassurances (that may be hard to believe coming from mel) that the club is going to survive all this. 

so far this conversation is something I’d be happy to hear the ins and outs of in maybe 10 years but right now I want to know what’s going to happen.

I was sort of hoping we would actually talk about the administration and gain a better understanding of the process to come and some reassurances (that may be hard to believe coming from mel) that the club is going to survive all this. 

so far this conversation is something I’d be happy to hear the ins and outs of in maybe 10 years but right now I want to know what’s going to happen.

I was sort of hoping we would actually talk about the administration and gain a better understanding of the process to come and some reassurances (that may be hard to believe coming from mel) that the club is going to survive all this. 

so far this conversation is something I’d be happy to hear the ins and outs of in maybe 10 years but right now I want to know what’s going to happen.

I was sort of hoping we would actually talk about the administration and gain a better understanding of the process to come and some reassurances (that may be hard to believe coming from mel) that the club is going to survive all this. 

so far this conversation is something I’d be happy to hear the ins and outs of in maybe 10 years but right now I want to know what’s going to happen.

I was sort of hoping we would actually talk about the administration and gain a better understanding of the process to come and some reassurances (that may be hard to believe coming from mel) that the club is going to survive all this. 

so far this conversation is something I’d be happy to hear the ins and outs of in maybe 10 years but right now I want to know what’s going to happen.

Charlie introducing our new business plan to the board 

Thanks ? for the heads up. I hope it’s candid and gives us some hope. I’ll be listening.