Elgin_Ram

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Dean Saunders, now that was a roof lifter.

Speak for yourself. I’d be banjaxed without my pacemaker.

The only game of Scottish football I have ever seen is Elgin versus Nairn. It was in 1979 so I would be up for another visit! 

Now you’re talking. That would be a great tour for all Rams Fans. But be aware, you will be getting softies not cobs.

Belgium or Jersey or Spain or Portugal or Northern Ireland, or anywhere in Scotland or the Scottish Hebrides, a tour of a few Highland League teams would do the trick to include Inverurie, and Elgin for @Elgin_Ram, Fraserburgh for the Scottish Rams supporters club, and to satisfy Rams fans in Dundee, Edinburgh and Glasgow, games against Dundee FC, Hibs or Hearts and Partick Thistle.
or Poland for the Polish Rams or Italy for the Italian Rams.................or better still Brazil for the Brazilian Rams!
 

I bet this will have been mentioned a number of times but I’ll state the obvious.
MM wants to sell the club but under the current climate the club is not a good investment. Even if there was no pandemic the club isn’t a good investment but it is better with match day income. 
I’m not even sure I would want to buy it even if I won the Euromillions record jackpot. If fans were allowed back in and things returned to near normal then it would be easier to take on. I don’t think people are giving MM the credit he deserves by keeping the club afloat. 

Matt Clarke has just scored from a corner.

Ronald McDonald

I understand your sentiment but please don’t forget the fans. We ARE the football club. I remember Clough on ITV, speaking in front of fans protesting against Maxwell, saying that we would be here long after Maxwell was gone. He was right.
Maxwell, Morris, Keogh, Glenn Skivington...we have and will see them all off and will be left standing. We are Derby. We are here because we care and all the mud and poo being thrown at us from all sides can slide off as far as I am concerned because, as much as I dislike it at the moment, I am bonded to and love this football club. So Gibson, EFL, bitter Leeds fans and the twitterati can all sod off. 

Well I was jumping around like a ducking loon yesterday and if fans or players celebrating us staying up is such a massive embarrassment for you, then I'm delighted by your discomfort.  
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Okay, posts that are critical of Mel Morris' tenure as owner are not taken down.
Posts which contain personal insults of Mel Morris are.
The same applies to other previous or future owners, players, other posters.
How difficult is it to grasp the difference? Quite difficult for some people judging by the number of posts we have taken down in the last twenty four hours.
If in any doubt please re-read the terms and conditions that you agreed to when you joined the message board. If you don't agree with them, you are welcome to find somewhere else to post your personal insults. I hear Twitter aren't too fussy! 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
He’s done a lot of good for a lot of people,my family included.

Do you believe that Collymore genuinely gives a duck about what happens to Derby? It doesn't really read as anything to me. But we've all seen people randomly make stuff up on the internet before and football fans are awful for just going along with every rumour, I seem to remember many on here believed Barry the ram. East Midlands today said nothing like what Collymore did. I don't really care whether you like or dislike Mel, saying he isn't a true fan because things didn't work out is just unfair. What is a ''true fan'' anyway, and who gets to police it? 

Football club ownership is an ego trip. Always has been, always will be. The American owners before Mel were ridiculed for not spending money, but got lucky in having Nigel Clough as manager. He was prepared to work with what he had, and did a bloody good job of it until they were persuaded to give Mac the job. Mac took the squad of players he inherited to another level, but was never going to work to Nigel's budget.
The buck ultimately stops at Mel, and obviously I won't be sending a cheque. I will however continue to pay my part as a (now long distance) fan. Mel is "to blame", but I thank him for everything he's done because he's done it trying to get us promoted. He's failed, miserably, but he's lost a lot more money than the club has.

Other than Florist trolls, I don't think any true Rams fan that contributes to this forum wants the team to fail. If I am included in your doom monger classification I would counter that I am pragmatic and a realist. I hate the term but the so called 'happy clappers' on here who keep posting along the lines '100% not going down', 'we will be safe with 3 games to play', 'we will win our easy games away at Blackburn and Preston' are just not seeing it as it is......burying their head in the sand......just take a look at the table and the fact we have won one game in eleven.....I take no enjoyment out of that whatsoever. I have followed the Rams since I was four living down in Cornwall, no links to Derby. Travelled home and away in the 80's, had Rams weekenders with my son staying over after away games when he was a lad and now travel 120 mile round trips to home games and invested a lot of time and money in the process. I think that gives me the right to express my views and say what I think, including the grave concerns I have at the moment. The last thing I want is for the Rams to do badly and any fan that says that to me can go forth and multiply..........

This thread's the forum equivalent of Dave. 
Slightly amusing at first, then the constant repetition and lack of originality chips away any warm feelings you once had until you can't wait to punch it in the face, repeatedly.
Mind, it's not as bad as the TV channel of the same name.

Sorry, I meant what he was saying sounded more reasonable, with the context added. 
Not necessarily what his plans are. I am not altogether too sure what anyone's motives are of buying a football club if they're not what he is talking about, other than if you're a genuine local fan like Mel who happens to be loaded.
How many of those are there out there? Very few, I would imagine. And even if you were, seeing how Mel is thought about by a significant section of our supporter base, you'd probably be steering well clear?
Unfortunately with the money in the game being as skewed towards the Premier League as it is these days, these sort of occurrences are more the norm, unless you want to be a plucky community club languishing in Division Two.
Ambition and ethics don't seem to be good bedfellows in the modern game.
 

Excellent translation of the text, however like many transcripts of interviews it is very limited to what it quotes.
In the interview he gives an outline of his background:
His father owned Logroñés football club when he was very young and so being around a football club is normal for him.
He moved to Indonesia when he was 16 for family business, and as he knew the trainer of the national boxing team ( his grandfather was Spanish boxing champion and the trainer also Spanish) he took up the sport to get himself fit. He went on to make 5 professional fights, winning all of them by KO and becoming champion of Indonesia. He became a father at 21 and as he felt that he couldn't give the sport 100% decided to finish.
He moved into the family business in Indonesia of real estate, mainly construction of villas in Bali after studying business.
If he were to buy a club for love it would be Logroñés, but the opportunity to buy DCFC was too interesting to pass up. If however he could buy any club in the world it would be Atlético Madrid.
He spoke to Ramon Calderon recently and they talked about the tie in the European Cup.
The interviewers then asked about the money side of the deal and although he didn't want to give out the numbers for buying the club he did leave them almost speechless with the amount of money in the English game. He is however buying the club with the help of partners he has in a holding.
When asked about the reception he had received from fans he was delighted with the response, although he would have understood if they had said "who's this youngster who has come here and bought our club? What are his intentions?" (@DarkFruitsRam7 and @Millenniumram, your tweets didn't reach him).
They then spoke about Rooney, basically saying what was said in the transcript.
"Is there a Spanish player that you would like to take to Derby County?" was then asked to which he answered Fernando Llorente. After the incredulation of the interwiewers he did say that he had not spoken to Llorente, but that as someone from his region and someone he admires very much he is "the type of player, for his experience and what he would bring" that he would like to sign, but at this moment the club doesn't have that kind of money. However he would be his dream signing.

 
That more or less is the interview. What would I say are my feelings after listening? He is a young man who has known nothing but success. He always gives 100% to whatever he does. He's not in this on his own, but although he didn't say who the other backers are (in no way did he avoid the very brief question, he just didn't elaborate)  or how much input in the day to day running they will have I got the impression that he will be the one running us. He does seem to want nothing but success and does understand how much it could cost. If he has half the success he has had up to now and his ambition would suggest then we're in for quite some ride.
My worries? He may just be too enthusiastic, and although as I said he appears to know the pitfalls, he does seem to drop things when he feels he can't give 100% (take his promising boxing career).
I haven't been to an amusement park in almost 15 years, it looks as though I'm about to go on the biggest and newest there is around.

A 29-year-old Spanish businessman has acquired Derby County from the English second division. He is a former professional boxer who left his career and has now launched himself into the challenge of football: "A very interesting opportunity has arisen for us, I am moved by challenges and I said why not. I want to make Derby County a success. I have some partners in a holding company and we decided to buy together. I think the response from the fans has been very good, and I have noticed good words. In the end their luck will be mine. I would have understood that they doubted me because of my age but they have not been like this ". He tells us about the competition, he believes that economically it is far above Spain and to prove it he gives us some figures: "The second Spanish division cannot be compared economically with the English one. Any team that rises from the Championship to the Premier has 170 million euros. euros. That is the objective. Second, we received about forty million euros in television rights " The coach is the mythical Wayne Rooney and Erik says that he has been very surprised by his great predisposition and his sense of humour. As for signings, he says he would like to take his countryman Fernando Llorente.
Contrary to saying nothing till the deal was finalised Alonso now intends to take a full page ad in every paper in every geographical location on the planet.
Alright the last bit was added.
 

Just to add, it is worth listening to the Radio Derby interview in full rather than reading this typical BBC website clickbait article, which takes this comment completely out of context and writes the short piece around that. 
Presumably because the "journalist" who wrote it (I use the term loosely) knew exactly how people would react.
The whole interview is much more balanced and is quite a good listen. 

Totally agree. Whoever's in charge will always be 'shot at' by some. Mel has always had his heart in the right place - he loves our club - but has made mistakes. The trouble is, on here, we'd all pick out different mistakes. To be fair patience must be difficult - it's a results business after all. Being a glass half-full kind of person I'm going to wait and see what happens.

Football club ownership is a lose/lose situation, doesn’t matter what they do, you’ve done it wrong.
They will be asked to sit in the corner, be quiet, just sign the cheques, but wait, why are they so quiet, we demand answers.
Cut back spending, be sensible, wait a minute we still want that £10m striker and £5m defender, and a £8m keeper....oh and don’t forget that £7m midfielder....but don’t you dare take us close to that FFP limit, no football club should be losing money.
Bored now, we need a new owner, anyone just get rid...wait not him, we don’t want him Jesus, but get rid asap.
Hold on, why’s this guy wanting to buy a second tier football club, I smell something fishy, what’s his intentions, why us, why not one of those football clubs that actually make money like erm...errrrrm....
Honestly, I could be the richest man in the world, sat in trillions in the bank account and I would never touch a football club, even Derby. 
I could turn us into the next Man City and some would still have something to complain about, winning leagues, competing in Europe but yeah that David bloke what a @#%! for killing the atmosphere and turning us into a tourist fan club, all those fake fans over in Asia. I want to see us lose games, can’t remember the last time I saw us get a classic Derby tonking.
Now imagine football clubs owned by football fans, oh my, a group of Newcastle fans are looking to buy a stake in their club. Can already see the fall out there, desperate to get rid of Ashley they donate all they can, then Ant and Dec disagree over firing the manager, Cheryl Cole storms off wanting her £5.68 back as she thought one of the fans would be appointed manager.
Would not touch with a barge pole.

What will be will be. Whether it’s a new manager, new signing or new owner, we can speculate, worry, wail and gnash our teeth as much as we want, but we won’t know whether it turns out good, bad or indifferent until we see what transpires.
Its quite understandable why there is some concern as we’ve had some dodgy owners in the past and we’ve seen what has happened elsewhere. However, I do tend to think some of the comments on here and elsewhere are a bit like people are just trying to make sure they can say ‘I told you so’ when/if it goes wrong and look clever. 
The only thing I’m particularly feeling at the moment is sadness that Mel is selling up. Football has ups and downs and I don’t really blame Mel for where we are. He’s backed his managers, he’s backed people he trusted to run the club, he has hired managers who should’ve done better than they did. Everything he’s done, and invested, has been with the best of intentions. The only thing I think he got really wrong was sacking SMC twice. But even then, I always work on the basis that nobody sets out to make errors, so I don’t hold it against him. 
I’m sure whatever happens, it will be interesting.