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THEY JUST PASS IT AIMLESSLY BETWEEN THEIR CENTRE BACKS 😡😡😡

Passing guru? You are bizarrely trying to mock a former manager who is currently sitting sixth in the Championship, unbeaten since the opening day and who just took four points off former PL sides in the past two weeks.
Hull scored more goals against Sheffield Wednesday (a team we scored zero against under Warne last season) in one home game than we have in all our home league games combined this season.
I don’t really care about the no shots on target stat anyway. You can create golden chances and not shoot on target, or you can have ten shots on target all from range which barely causes the goalkeeper to flinch.
We simply barely create any chances under Warne and coincidentally the football is crap.
I much preferred the football we played under Rosenior, and we created far more golden chances (which we missed most of them).

Rosenior has Hull sixth in the Championship and they just took four points off former PL sides Leicester and Leeds, keeping clean sheets in both.
And some use that as reason to defend Paul Warne…

That remains to be seen. I've seen squads with less quality get out of this league and this year looks like it could be a free-for-all, I don't think anyone will run away with it.
I was replying to the notion that we have a squad that's bare, which we don't.
We've had a mixed start to the season, but we've hopefully cut out silly mistakes, we're joint top scorers in the league, only behind Barnsley who got 7 in one game. We have some new faces who we're yet to see how much of an impact they can make in Fornah, TJJ and Embleton.
Key players like Ward, Wilson, Bird, Sibley and possibly Barkhuizen still to return to bolster the matchday squad. I'm not super confident of automatic promotion but I'm also definitely not writing it off just yet.

The blog started by David is your opinion of whether we should stick with him or give until October, December or end of the season etc. I for one was not happy when we took on Paul Warne and I gave my reasons from day one. But at the moment we are stuck with him and his team of coaches. His tactics/style/formation etc will only work with quality players that also have pace and lots of energy. I think the centre backs are good quality but lack pace. Warne needs to make the squad/team more adaptable and if he can't do this, then he his a one trick pony.
I hope i am wrong and our manager can alter/adapt against each opposition that we play against. Even our big 4-2 win at Peterboro was not overly convincing, had the Posh frontline had their shooting boots on in the chances they created it could have been a different result. And before any forum member states we were better than the Posh, that was only down to being more clinical on the day. They had more possession, shots and shots on target than us. We had Waggy who was at his best, scoring his 5th hat-trick of his career. Lets not forget, Forsyth was the one that wanted Waggy at his pre-season testimonial and perhaps Warne got lucky.

Well when Warne stated last season as a failure, when not getting into the top 6 and I would assume David Clowes and definitely most of the fans would have expected to be in the play-off frame at least. We went from the 18th Feb when we beat Charlton 2-0 at home to finish with only 5 more wins out of our 15 remaining games.

1Wildsmith     6.5
34Rooney      6.5
35Nelson       7.5
6Cashin          7
11Méndez-Laing     6.5
14Elder         5.5
12Smith          7
4Hourihane     7
Forna              6.5
16Thompson     9
3Forsyth          7.5
10Waghorn        9
John-Jules        7
14Washington      7
9Collins          7

Tommo has shown he’s capable of raising his game it will now come down to consistency with him 
What he does give the midfield now is more legs and energy and he stays in with Hourihane alongside Fornah if Smiths game level drops off 
I like Bird but if the right offer was made I’d take it as long as a big chunk of it could be reinvested back into the team 

There's no way Warne can drop him on this current form the lad is showing,

There's no way Warne can drop him on this current form the lad is showing,

There's no way Warne can drop him on this current form the lad is showing,

There's no way Warne can drop him on this current form the lad is showing,

Playing league 1 teams.

You were crapping in your seat even last season

Once upon a time, playing a back five would involve 3 centre halves and wing backs who would take it in turns to go forward so that the defence always had cover (or else the holding midfielder would drop back to fill a wide position when the wing back was charging forward) - Warne's version seems to have both wing-backs permanently stationed in the opposition half and the DM running aropund like a headless chicken - at one point last night, Fozzy was our most advanced player (by a long way) - I don't get what he's trying to achieve...

You were crapping in your seat even last season

We're stuck with the mug unfortunately.  Clowes was stupid to give him a 4 year deal, he has to change the set up and abandon the 5 man defence starting Saturday.  Next few games are last chance saloon after how we have started but he'll probably still stay even if we are getting battered every week unless he comes to a gentleman's agreement like when Cocu left.

I don't think anybody will be surprised if he is given the sack.
Even at this very early stage of the season it feels like we are reaching a point where he just can't pull it back. 
I'd sooner he turns it round but the signs aren't good.

I don't know if finances were a reason we couldn't offer Rosenior a permanent deal here. But it's looking like a horrible decision now. This club is too big for Warne and we aren't attractive under him.
We're similar to how Ipswich were under Paul Cook. We need to learn from them.

2012 called it wants its formation back
 
it would be less painful if we had legs in the team to get up and down the pitch
 
he just seems to play system after system that is completely incompatable with the players he has and worse yet SIGNS himself

My preference would be the opposite.  I think the reason we're struggling is because we've still got a squad full of footballers, not runners.  I think if you put McClaren (or someone like that) in charge, we'd be straight back to 433/4231, playing through midfield, and looking a lot more comfortable.

I m not fickle but I do want to see incoming signings improving us and it’s obvious that Knight and McGoldrick moving on has taken a lot out of the side from last year.
So far Ward looks decent in an attacking sense and Elder will be a steady full back plus we generally know what Waghorn can bring and it’s the third division that we are in and a proper reserve keeper is good. Our central midfield looks ponderous and our triple central defenders have so far been completely isolated from each other and devoid of pace.
we have taken NML away from his preferred and best position attacking the right flank and he is our only threat unless opposing defenders miss their headers because we won’t be winning many in the penalty area. The lad Wilson looks tricky going forward but appears to absolutely not attempt to do any defending which will prove to be a major problem if deployed at full back
Sibley and Barkhauzen are now cast as our saviours because they can contribute when actually given the chance.
Forsyth already stars in the role of mr positive consistent. 
Adding Rooney and Tompson into the starting X1 might make us look as if we can keep up with some of the opposition.
I am not fickle - let me know what I have missed so far 

All we needed was the right manager?

Agree with you Sage. With the players that we have at the moment we simply cannot play high press tactics, I would prefer a 4-4-2 formation sit back and defend hit teams on the break.
Just make it difficult for the opposition to score and stop making mistakes.

 

 
 
 
 

I've laid them out. 
You can't play a high tempo pressing game with slow players in all 3 departments. That's the constructive criticism.
The solution is buy quicker players, though that will be difficult now, which is why I'm so concerned.
Alternatively change how we play only pressing occasionally when an opportunity arises.