Bris Vegas

2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

The fact that Burnley's last game is against Florist could be crucial.

Only if Burnley can get within two points of them going into the final game as they GD is much worse.

They need to match Forest’s points tally in the next two games. Problem is, Burnley have Newcastle (H] and Spurs (A), can’t seem them getting any more than 3 points max.

Forest have Sheff Utd (A) and Chelsea (H). Can see them getting 4 points.

Without another points deduction, they look fine.

Luton have the easiest games in Everton (H), West Ham (A) and Fulham (H). But they’ve gone off the boil. 

Thought Forest played well.

They were mentioning that no team has ever survived with less than 33 points. 

Forest look on course to become the worst ever PL survivors.

They are so lucky that the three teams that came up were so bad.

Burnley look like they’ve picked up but they’ve left it too late.

35 minutes ago, Mckram said:

Be interesting to see what Bielik and Buchanan do if they are relegated. They were quick to jump ship with us and hardly panned out well for them. 

Can’t really blame either.

Buchanan was offered a chance to join a Bundesliga club. 

And Bielik was always going to go as his wages were unsustainable.

Both joining Birmingham permanently was a bit odd though.

I expected both to be doing better. 

Luton are a lost cause.

Only hope now is having Burnley within two points of Forest going into the final day of the season.

Unfortunately I can see Forest getting at least 4 points from Sheffield Utd and Chelsea, so banking on Burnley to beat Newcastle and pick up a point at Spurs. Not going to happen.

Oh well, next season and another 34-35 point struggle. Fun times.

15 minutes ago, oomarkwright said:

Looks like it's Leicester and Ipswich then. Gives us hope for next season. 

Don’t really think we can compare. Both have bigger budgets, better players and more or less the same core of players for a couple of years now.

It’s nice seeing Ipswich do well though.

They were so unlucky not to go back up in the days of Joe Royle. Played some great stuff.

Seems like one of these teams are going to finish outside the top two despite hitting two points per game.

I imagine several people have done it at a playoff final. 

In this particular scenario, it seems so far-fetched for Derby to lose by a few goals and Bolton to win by a few.

8 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

That's City unbeaten for the rest of the season then 😂

They may go unbeaten and drop points. Draws are two points dropped at this stage.

6 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

I’ve not been through the full list but, whilst it may be correct, the fact that every team in the bottom half of the Championship have replaced their managers is a little misleading. Firstly, Plymouth had to because their manager was poached, Birmingham owners have admitted they acted too hastily in getting rid of Eustace and then made a mistake with Rooney, Rotherham are so far adrift that it’s hardly surprising and Stoke are a bit of a basket case that seem to change managers at the drop of a hat. Of the others, there is only Sheffield Wednesday playing their first season back in the Championship and their first half of the season was so poor that, if that was us, it would meet my above criteria for making a change.

The Championship is brutal due to the expectations and the financial side of it dropping into League One.

All of those clubs have sacked managers because owners felt they were underachieving and the thought of relegation is unfathomable.

Only three (Bristol, Sunderland and Watford) haven’t really been in danger of relegation but still changed manager.

Plymouth may have lost their first manager but sacked their 2nd.

Point is, Derby shouldn’t be blindly loyal to Warne.

If many feel he is underachieving, relegation threatened and we’re playing poorly, he’ll go.

17 hours ago, CapeTownRams said:

Bottom line- if we go up this season he’s done his job and congrats and thanks are due.

He will be given at least one full season in the Champo . Bottom line first season is to stay up.

Let’s just get on with it. 

Why would he be given a full season in the Championship?

Every team in the bottom half of the Championship, Sunderland to Rotherham, have changed managers this season. Every one of those clubs sacked a manager.

If Derby are bottom three in the first half of the season and managers like Mowbray are floating about unemployed, there will be huge pressure to get rid.

Sentiment goes out the window. If managers like Nigel Adkins can be sacked after taking Southampton from League One to the PL in favor of a better, more progressive manager, then Derby would be foolish not to follow suite.

Derby have struggled before under Clough and Burley at Championship level. But in both spells there was hope due to how we played.

If results go against Warne and we’re playing unattractive defensive football, I think Clowes’ hand will be forced.

There isn't much else Klopp can do. The past four games they have only taken four points, but in each game they have battered the opposition in terms of chances created. As coaches, not sure what else they can do.

It's on the players. And at the crunch time of the season, they have faltered at both ends of the pitch. Everton's first goal was just defensive mistake after another. Slicing the ball in your own box.

Then the chances missed. That Nuñez one just lacked all composure. 

The Man Utd FA Cup game kicked it all off. But they missed a host of chances against City too.

City will still drop points. If Arsenal beat Spurs and United away, they'll deservedly win the league.

22 minutes ago, YouRams said:

Erik ten Hag is like the bad guy in action movies that just won't die. When you think it's the final blow United bring him back to life. Surely getting the sack at the end of the season they're dreadful.

ETH is the obvious fall guy, but United are generally dreadful (by their standards) because their players are vastly overrated.

I think Dalot and Fernandes are the only two you could claim are anything near elite players. The rest aren't even top 20 in their position in the world, which is crazy considering how much they've spent to put that team together.

Are Forest the PL's new victims club? With Clattenberg the mouthpiece.

"It was a hat-trick of howlers from the refereeing team and, unfortunately for Forest, a continuation of an unjust trend that has hampered their survival fight."

Cringeworthy. 

Have Forest even had it that bad this season? Wolves have been on the wrong end of some poor ones, as have Burnley and even Liverpool.

They’ve all had a whinge about it.

But that statement is just weird. 

26 minutes ago, Ram-Alf said:

It would appear that humans and technology are at odds with each other.

Coventry get a Penalty for handball

Forest denied a penalty for handball

As for the offside...this is what VAR was brought in for, As Graeme Souness once said...you can't be a little pregnant your either onside or offside

 

They can make offside like goal line technology, automated. And that is what they are working on.

I’d scrap VAR for the rest and just leave it to human decisions.

But let’s be honest. VAR has come in because all those involved didn’t accept human error.

Offside is offside.

It doesn’t matter how you draw it up, whether daylight between attacker and defender or not, it is simply on or off.

It’s incredibly harsh but get rid of VAR and you end up with Coventry in the final via an offside goal.

We either accept humans (officials) make errors (something that managers, pundits, fans etc. can’t seem to do) or we use technology.

Many prefer the days of none VAR. but I also remember in the days of no VAR teams like Man Utd would bully referees and you’d never get a decision at Old Trafford.

Man Utd can’t defend. They have conceded so many goals this season. For a neutral they are entertaining. I want Coventry to pull it off, but if they don’t, at least we can enjoy City destroying United in the final.

Forest are only playing PL football because of biased officiating in their playoff final against Huddersfield. Their stance is unbelievable.

Garcia v Haney was such a weird fight.

It looked like Garcia couldn’t be bothered in there, yet every now and again he’d throw a left hook and Haney’s chin was sticking right out there.

Haney looked the more skilled fighter and often took center ring, but also so sloppy as he was dropped 3 times by effectively the same combo. 

Garcia’s post-match interview was just rants thrown together. Summed up the fight.

I’m not sure if this makes Tank look a clear level above, or it looks bad for Haney. 

2 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Luton have an abysmal defence.  They've lost energy to go with it after the games against Arsenal, Bournemouth etc.  As I mentioned a few months ago, they did very well first round of games but second time around, I expected their limited tactics to not work again .  That's basically what's happened. Everton are effectively on 1 win in 18 if you add on the 8 point deduction and lost 6-0 in their last match.  Still 4 points from relegation after 1 win in half a season.  Will never happen again .

Keep an eye on Burnley though.  If they win the next one there'll be a bit of a panic on. 

Burnley have picked up recently and still have Forest to play at home, but they’ve left it too late.

None of the bottom 3 look like hitting 30 points, which has only happened once in the last 30+ years (The covid season when nobody was in the stadiums).

Some 30 years ago Forest finished bottom on 34 points. Sunderland went down that year on 40.

Blackpool went down on 39 about 12 years ago.

How can Forest spend £300m+ on about 30 new players and not be as good as Blackpool or even their own previous relegated teams from 30 years ago - yet still survive.

1 minute ago, YouRams said:

Made a great save that kept us in it today, but also looked like his drink bottle was filled with vodka the state of his kicks. It's as if having time to think rattles him, but give him a quick reaction save to make he's great.

Stephen Bywater mark II

1 minute ago, Leicester Ram said:

Been on this forum with you for well over a decade now Bris, for the love of f****** god please enjoy yourself

You’re not the CEO of Derby you’re a bloke posting on a forum, you don’t have to qualify that you want better results next season (Paul Warne is neither reading nor respecting your comment) you can just enjoy that we won’t be playing in 4,000 seat stadiums next year

No promotion at this club in 17 years (over half my lifetime btw, I was in primary school) and you’re sat here posting that we need to be better next season, cheers you bloody football genius

Feel free to reply but I’m out on the piss and shan’t be reading it

Don’t drink and drive. Be safe!

14 minutes ago, David said:

Not sure why this ever needs to be said. 

How many football clubs have been promoted and not made a single signing? 

We have players out of contract, Bird and other on loan players that will return to their clubs, what this exact team could do in the Championship is not worth even thinking about as it isn't going to happen.

The reason why it’s more evident with Warne is because he won’t get more out of players. He isn’t a top coach like a Farke or Bielsa.

If our team is bottom three standard, then we will go down with him.

If our team is bottom six standard, then we will finish bottom six with him.

While some managers can get more out of players and have the team achieving more than their actual ability (Neil Warnock as an example), Paul Warne doesn’t fall into that category as shown by his Rotherham spells.

Paul Warne deserves credit for getting us promoted. Doesn’t really matter how, his goal was to get us promoted and he has achieved.

But he will need help this summer. This current side under Warne finishes bottom three next season.

If we stick with Warne, he will need seven or eight new signings to give us a chance.

We deserve automatic promotion. It’s been a tough watch at times, but defensively we have been superb and the individual quality has seen us through.

We will beat Carlisle and the manager and players will deserve the plaudits for a job well done.