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Scott twine went for 4/5M. Never played above L1! 
Knight not only a full international, a key player for an international side made up from Premier league and championship players so yeah I would expect way more than 5M or we have been robbed yet again!

We are in the league, out of admin with the stadium part of the club. That to me is better than winning the league compared to where we were at a few days ago. 

I think this season could be make or break for Sibley as a Derby player. For whatever reason, he's never kicked on from his outstanding early performances in the first team, but with the departures this summer, he has a great opportunity to establish himself as our first choice attacking midfielder. Ability-wise, he should stand out at League One level if given the opportunity to play regularly, but I fear that if it doesn't happen for him this season, at 21 we might need to accept he isn't going to be the outstanding player at Derby we hoped he could be.

Won't make the slightest bit of difference. The EFL will never do anything that might hurt their masters in the Premier League. He will be shouting into the void as far as the rest of the board will be concerned. 
 

I think that you're probably correct that not much will change @David - mainly due to the incompetence and impotence of the EFL - but some younger players (Mason Mount for example) do work hard at developing their career even while being on big wages.  Harry Wilson and Tomori might be other examples and who knows, Ebiowei may yet do the same, with us or someone else. Ditto Luke Plange. The basic model - of wealthier clubs using their buying power to hoover up the better younger players - isn't going to change much soon though and the online availability of games at younger levels plus the presence of agents adds to the power - there's too much information.  Perhaps players shouldn't be allowed agents until they're 18; perhaps film of younger players shouldn't be available; perhaps younger players shouldn't be allowed to transfer clubs until they're 18?
I think that clubs like ours have to show our worth as developers of talent in order to compete - the facilities at Moor Farm are key, so too the level of coaching and the environment, and, above all, a route to the first team.  We fans can help by being supportive of the younger players and their inevitable errors, as we did last year particularly, but haven't always done.
The biggest change needed though is in football finance - the distribution/redistribution of TV revenues (little chance of that happening) and the impact of parachute payments, especially from PL to Championship, though its impact will begin to be felt lower down too 

The Premier League has too much power to see the rules change.
What we need is a change of mindset in younger players, but how many of us at the age of 17/18 would turn down 15k+ a week to sign for say Chelsea?
These kids can sit it out on their Chelsea wages, be sent to play a few games in Holland and Belgium, join a Championship club at 26 off the back of being raised at the Chelsea academy and play regular football for 5 years, retire and never have to work again. 
Ebiowei for example would have played every game for us this season when fit and available, now he’ll be watching Soccer Saturday in his London penthouse wearing his Gucci fluffy slippers earning more than double he would have to get smashed about away at Morecambe.
How could you possibly knock that?
Gone are the days where these younger players are cleaning first team boots, hoping for their Christmas bonus to help buy their first car, a used Vauxhall Corsa.
So yeah, I can’t see much changing.

just getting ready for when they go into Admin.

I'd settle for losing Knight and Bielik if we can keep Bird and Sibley at least one more season. 
Don't think I will get the opportunity to choose, though! 

So the good news is, we're going to stop having a holding company structure consisting of gibberish names (Gellaw, Sevco etc). The bad news is, we're replacing it with a holding company structure consisting of the words "Derby", "County" and "Rams" in various random orders.

Okay, I like Lee Buchanan and think he's a useful footballer. I have no problem with him wanting to better himself at a bigger club.
However, he has been with Derby County since 2010. That's 12 years of us training him, feeding him, educating him and helping him generally to develop to where he is in now in the game. We protected him from the limelight after Joinersgate, when he was injured for several months. 
He has cost us a lot of money, not just in wages.
He is still a young man and might have a very bright future ahead of him, not least due to the investment received from Derby County.
For his agents not to recognise this and to use a legal technicality to try and wriggle out of the industry wide compensation clause for academy investment is very disappointing,  in my opinion. 

The more time goes on the more it appears we dodged a bullet. Feel far more at ease with Clowes on board than any of the other options.
Yes, they are Rams fans but something feels different. Mel got lucky with CC. These guys have been around business for decades. Just feels a safe pair of hands. That is the onevthing we need above all else. No more circus 

David Clowes - can't thank you enough.

A perfect ending to the week. Thanks so much David Clowes. You'll always be remembered as the man who saved Derby County in it's darkest hour?
The sentence that stands out for me is this one
"We have to maintain a degree of continuity because there is no point walking into an institution that has been here for 138 years and having the arrogance to think we possess all the answers. My team will work with people, listen and learn before coming to any decisions"
Could there be a bigger contrast between this approach and the one taken by the owner who took us into Administration? It may even have been his subtle way of making exactly that point?
 

I think last season showed that when two key experienced players left, this had a detrimental effect on the squad/team (Shinnie & Jagielka). Experienced players bring nous & know-how, as well as a bit of grittiness to proceedings. We also need to bring in a few players in their prime (26 onwards), which may prove difficult as these often command fees & wages & everybody else is competing for their signature.
We need to get a balance, the right amount of older heads alongside the promising youngsters. Hourihane is interesting, but a surprise to be linked with us after playing for Sheff United (relegated PL side who could probably afford to pay his wages). He may be a player attracted by the prospective of joining a long-term project at a big club that has fallen but is expected to regroup after being on loan at Swansea & Sheff United.
I'm not going to have a go at a poster who may feel disquiet after what has happened. We do need to learn from our lessons (says a gambler/mug punter) but unfortunately football is about boom & bust, & we all buy into it, getting carried away (Pickering, ABC loan, crippling debts, to Mel Morris). We have to learn to be reasonable & we need to be prepared to buy into a project like the Swansea fans did over the last decade & a half. 
Not as well versed as others on here in terms of finance , vis @Carnero, etc, but the fact that we are paying 25p in the pound means we will be subject to EFL scrutiny for two seasons, I think, as creditors would  rightly feel aggrieved if we suddenly began to revert to type & pay overinflated wages & fees.
But the fact that we could have an experienced defender alongside Cashin bodes well, and the quality of player that we are being linked with may help us retain the ones  already at the club (Byrne, Buchanan).

I think last season showed that when two key experienced players left, this had a detrimental effect on the squad/team (Shinnie & Jagielka). Experienced players bring nous & know-how, as well as a bit of grittiness to proceedings. We also need to bring in a few players in their prime (26 onwards), which may prove difficult as these often command fees & wages & everybody else is competing for their signature.
We need to get a balance, the right amount of older heads alongside the promising youngsters. Hourihane is interesting, but a surprise to be linked with us after playing for Sheff United (relegated PL side who could probably afford to pay his wages). He may be a player attracted by the prospective of joining a long-term project at a big club that has fallen but is expected to regroup after being on loan at Swansea & Sheff United.
I'm not going to have a go at a poster who may feel disquiet after what has happened. We do need to learn from our lessons (says a gambler/mug punter) but unfortunately football is about boom & bust, & we all buy into it, getting carried away (Pickering, ABC loan, crippling debts, to Mel Morris). We have to learn to be reasonable & we need to be prepared to buy into a project like the Swansea fans did over the last decade & a half. 
Not as well versed as others on here in terms of finance , vis @Carnero, etc, but the fact that we are paying 25p in the pound means we will be subject to EFL scrutiny for two seasons, I think, as creditors would  rightly feel aggrieved if we suddenly began to revert to type & pay overinflated wages & fees.
But the fact that we could have an experienced defender alongside Cashin bodes well, and the quality of player that we are being linked with may help us retain the ones  already at the club (Byrne, Buchanan).

I think last season showed that when two key experienced players left, this had a detrimental effect on the squad/team (Shinnie & Jagielka). Experienced players bring nous & know-how, as well as a bit of grittiness to proceedings. We also need to bring in a few players in their prime (26 onwards), which may prove difficult as these often command fees & wages & everybody else is competing for their signature.
We need to get a balance, the right amount of older heads alongside the promising youngsters. Hourihane is interesting, but a surprise to be linked with us after playing for Sheff United (relegated PL side who could probably afford to pay his wages). He may be a player attracted by the prospective of joining a long-term project at a big club that has fallen but is expected to regroup after being on loan at Swansea & Sheff United.
I'm not going to have a go at a poster who may feel disquiet after what has happened. We do need to learn from our lessons (says a gambler/mug punter) but unfortunately football is about boom & bust, & we all buy into it, getting carried away (Pickering, ABC loan, crippling debts, to Mel Morris). We have to learn to be reasonable & we need to be prepared to buy into a project like the Swansea fans did over the last decade & a half. 
Not as well versed as others on here in terms of finance , vis @Carnero, etc, but the fact that we are paying 25p in the pound means we will be subject to EFL scrutiny for two seasons, I think, as creditors would  rightly feel aggrieved if we suddenly began to revert to type & pay overinflated wages & fees.
But the fact that we could have an experienced defender alongside Cashin bodes well, and the quality of player that we are being linked with may help us retain the ones  already at the club (Byrne, Buchanan).

Wednesday fan here.
Joe Wildsmith first broke into the first team at a very young age about 5/6 years ago when Kieran Westwood got injured.
It was the season we got to the playoff final and Joe was very impressive when he played for us, tipped by many to have a bright future in the game.
Since then we have had a whole host of managers, the side has got progressively worse and when he has played in recent seasons, he’s had a pretty woeful defence protecting his goal. As such his confidence has taken a bit of a battering and he has made the odd error.
That said, if he can get a run of games at Derby and you can get him anywhere near what he was like a few seasons ago, he’ll be a very capable a league 1 keeper for you this season.
Also he’s still relatively young for a goal keeper.
Best of luck to you with the takeover, really hope you can get things sorted and start to move forward as a club again.

I think last season showed that when two key experienced players left, this had a detrimental effect on the squad/team (Shinnie & Jagielka). Experienced players bring nous & know-how, as well as a bit of grittiness to proceedings. We also need to bring in a few players in their prime (26 onwards), which may prove difficult as these often command fees & wages & everybody else is competing for their signature.
We need to get a balance, the right amount of older heads alongside the promising youngsters. Hourihane is interesting, but a surprise to be linked with us after playing for Sheff United (relegated PL side who could probably afford to pay his wages). He may be a player attracted by the prospective of joining a long-term project at a big club that has fallen but is expected to regroup after being on loan at Swansea & Sheff United.
I'm not going to have a go at a poster who may feel disquiet after what has happened. We do need to learn from our lessons (says a gambler/mug punter) but unfortunately football is about boom & bust, & we all buy into it, getting carried away (Pickering, ABC loan, crippling debts, to Mel Morris). We have to learn to be reasonable & we need to be prepared to buy into a project like the Swansea fans did over the last decade & a half. 
Not as well versed as others on here in terms of finance , vis @Carnero, etc, but the fact that we are paying 25p in the pound means we will be subject to EFL scrutiny for two seasons, I think, as creditors would  rightly feel aggrieved if we suddenly began to revert to type & pay overinflated wages & fees.
But the fact that we could have an experienced defender alongside Cashin bodes well, and the quality of player that we are being linked with may help us retain the ones  already at the club (Byrne, Buchanan).

He might not be first choice anyway. Remember we need to sign at least 2 senior keepers 

Have you looked at the squad we'll have if players agree to extend their deals with us?
Foulkes, Cashin, Bardell, Buchanan, Bird, Knight, LThompson, Watson, Sibley, Stretton, Cybulski. 11 players aged 21 or younger. Even Bielik is only 24.

Why? Any deals will have to be within an EFL rubber stamped budget, and as free agents they'll be earning £0 after July 31.

It's only last Friday they announced it, so it's highly unlikely that the exclusivity period would end in under a week. 

"Quantuma would like to correct a number of inaccuracies regarding the bath. It is a fluid situation. The volume of fluid exceeding the volume of the bath has been both tactical and intentional.
We regard the moisture on the floor as a significant barrier to the operation to cease the flow from the tap, however all parties are working hard to resolve the situation.
The neighbors in the downstairs flat may be pleasantly surprised at the swiftness with which things now move.
Quantuma wishes to place on record their thanks to Mel Morris and Stephen Pearce for the free flowing nature of the drainage pipe which is not causing an issue in the drainage of the fluid "

Sad to see him go but makes total sense from his perspective. Wages will increase dramatically & he will probably get a decent amount of playing time still from being loaned out. Having shone in the Championship, I also don't see the sense from his perspective of dropping to League One.
Whilst the sale of Plange & Ebiowei are tough to take, there is a silver lining in the long term. Lads recently released from Prem academies will see the example of those two players & think that a move to Derby would similarly be able to provide a platform to get back to the Premiership within a couple of years. I imagine that is exactly the sell Wassall & the Academy team will be making over the coming days to a number of young players.
The general point of how young players are plucked by Premiership clubs has been a consistent problem since the advent of Category status academies & the impact of that on the price a club can expect to receive for a player. The situation with us is pronounced because of the EFL's refusal to allow us to tie down our youngest players - a further unwarranted & unnecessary punishment seeking to gut us of our entire infrastructure. The Academy is absolute gold dust & hopefully the imminent new owners (now we are able to offer contracts) and Rosenior place great emphasis on it as part of the strategy to rebuild the first team squad.