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4 hours ago, MadAmster said:

I stand corrected on the year. My previous post did state "IIRC" in relation to 2008. The link you quote shows Clough having concern following the injury received in the Stoke game. Do you have a link to the one you mentioned earlier where Clough "made him play"?

I don’t - it is a direct quote from Barnes in the book by Ryan Hills - Pride: The Inside Story of Derby County in the 21st Century

It’s a good read, but is more of a reverse feel good story - starts well and ends up depressing!

25 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

Pretty sure he was 1m pound signing… although i could be wrong 

edit: i am wrong … dean saunders was our first 1m signing 

I thought his contract was worth £1m, so we were paying him that over a three year contract…

10 hours ago, NottsRam77 said:

It was. Those 3 i mentioned were just big money (for the time) that really we’re a true hit and our best “big money” signings i can think of 

shilton.. oustanding

sanders outstanding 

stimac simply world class

no ifs and buts 

ince and co dont hold a torch to those 3 in terms of value for money 

I didn’t think Shilton was anything beyond a “nominal fee”.

The big fuss was that we were paying him something like £6k a week.

I would like to think we should be able to push for promotion this season, but until we know who we’re bringing in, we can only hope.

We do look extremely light up top, and getting a decent striker or two is never simple.

16 hours ago, MadAmster said:

Clough? We're talking 2008. We didn't have a Clough at the club in '08.

We’re actually talking 2009 and Clough was there when Barnes was injured.

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/5466369/clough-admits-barnes-concern

On 26/05/2023 at 09:37, MadAmster said:

I cringed when I read "Stoke" and "Fozzy's Testimonial" in the same sentence. My memory immediately flashed back to, IIRC, 2008 and a pre season game at Pride Park. A two footed lunge, both off the ball and off the pitch, by Carl Dickinson basically ruined Giles Barnes' career. He was nowhere near the same player after that. He was offered, again IIRC, £5M to take injury induced retirement with the club also receiving an amount from the insurers. Giles wanted to try and resurrect his career. Fair play to him for wanting to try. That he never reached his previous level and got nowhere near his potential has me wondering if he ever regrets not taking the money?

I sincerely hope today's Stoke players are rather more charitable than Dickinson was although I have a suspicion Giles had wound him up as he was wont to do to opponents.

I read that Barnes said he wasn’t fit to play, but Clough said insisted that he did.  Seems after Barnes suggested he would like another shot at the top division then Clough was not so pleasant with him.

25 minutes ago, Dan_Ram said:

Looks like Roberts departure from Brighton has been confirmed. Am I correct in thinking that there would be no compensation due if BHA haven’t offered him a contract?

Correct

I remember seeing Clarke-Harris play us for Rotherham and thinking he looked a really good prospect, and played very well against us.

He then seemed to just tread water for a few years and be in and out of the teams he was playing for.

He seems to have put it together in the last couple of seasons though.

5 hours ago, Red_ram said:

Don’t hang your hopes on this guy. Screenshotted this last summer. Lies on both accounts. Does get some things right but all the bad calls mysteriously get deleted…

Interesting - that account is different, as there is an underscore next to the name on the latest account,

I did look at their history and it stinks of some saddo either guessing or reading up on newspaper rumours and regurgitating them in the vain hope that they are seen to be ITK.

Utter drivel, I’m afraid.

I watched a documentary on Rolf Harris and the next day I found out he had died.

Does anyone know if there’s a Nigel Farage documentary?

3 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Oh no! Young men earning a good wage enjoying themselves! How terrible.

Let's go back to when there was no professional game and players turned up for the fun of it, and were given a sunday roast, a pint of bitter and a pack of woodbines as compensation shall we?

Jesus. 

In fairness, we are in a world where third division footballers earn hugely inflated salaries.  If Cashin, Bird and co had gone into medicine as doctors, they’d be earning closer to a tenth of what they’re earning now and if they get to the top of their game (in both professions), they‘d earn senior consultant annual salaries in a week.

Therefore, I agree with the original statement.  It’s hard to blame the players for taking the idiotic fees, however it is a symptom for why we were on the brink of extinction last year.

Let’s compare to rugby, which looks a much more reasonable salary scale for professional athletes (and this is at the top level):

In the UK, the average salary of an established premiership rugby player is around 100k-150k pa. At the top end, salaries can go as high as 500-800k pa. Academy players are on 15k-25k pa, which shoots up to 40k-100k pa if/when they make the first team squad.

1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said:

It’s particularly irritating at the same time to see our noisy neighbours cling on in the PL - there is a prospect they may be there as long as we could be in div 1)

So, promotion next season it is! 😉

Found this website, which lists all the free agents across the top four divisions, which seems rather useful.

https://footballfragmento.wordpress.com/tag/championship-released-players/

In fairness, our squad isn’t exactly looking wonderful right now.

We have a small group of players under contract, a number of which aren’t exactly perfect for the system the manager wishes to play.

We need a fair few players, all of which need to be hits, which is not guaranteed.

There’s a base to build on, but we need a very good transfer window.

If you enjoy a tasting menu, I would recommend Stones in Matlock.

It’s always been fantastic, and offers a specific vegetarian/vegan menu, which Arthur’s doesn’t, unfortunately.

http://www.stones-restaurant.co.uk/#food
 

I have been to Sat Bains in Nottingham too - that is amazing, but is quite pricey for a meal out!  Have to say, it was an experience though.

In recent memory, Festy Ebosele at home to Hull.

Their full-back, Fleming, was on toast for that whole game.

3 hours ago, angieram said:

That's what I'm expecting. 

The problem with a kit like that is that it pretty much clashes with our home kit.

On 16/05/2023 at 21:03, Dimmu said:

Here's my take on it:

As an AI language model, I don't have access to real-time data or knowledge of specific player performances beyond my September 2021 knowledge cutoff. However, I can provide you with some general guidelines on potential types of signings that English League One clubs could consider for cost-effective options:

1. Free Agents: Keep an eye on players who are out of contract and available on a free transfer. These players could offer good value, as they won't require a transfer fee. Many experienced professionals or talented youngsters may be seeking new opportunities.

2. Loan Deals: Premier League and Championship clubs often loan out young players who need regular game time to develop. League One clubs can explore loan deals to acquire promising talents from higher divisions. These loans could benefit both the player's development and the League One club's squad strength.

3. Released Players: At the end of each season, clubs often release players deemed surplus to requirements. Some of these players may have experience in higher divisions or possess untapped potential. Scouting released players could uncover hidden gems available at reduced wages.

4. Lower League Gems: English football boasts a wealth of talent in lower divisions, such as the National League or lower leagues in Scotland and Ireland. These players may be looking for an opportunity to step up to League One and could offer value for money.

5. Non-League Prospects: Keep an eye on non-league football, where several talented players emerge each season. Promising players from non-league clubs can be signed for nominal fees or even on a trial basis, providing an opportunity to uncover hidden talent.

Remember, the suitability of any signing depends on the specific needs and budgetary constraints of each club. Conducting thorough scouting, analyzing player statistics and performance data, and consulting with knowledgeable staff are crucial steps to identifying potential signings that align with a club's strategy and objectives.

So, three routes, as points 1 & 3, and 4 & 5 are the same?

I’d like something as a bit of a homage to the old Patrick kit - brilliant kit that was.

I thought I would add this beauty into the mix.  A homage to the eighties, incorporating the original colours of chocolate, amber and sky over a main body of seashell to incorporate the modernity of the new millennium, whilst tipping a nod to the current black and white on the trim and collar.

😉

I’d be willing to take a punt on Massimo Luongo - he absolutely bossed the midfield for Ipswich against us.

9 minutes ago, enachops said:

Bielik was right for us though. He was exactly what we needed. A ball playing defensive midfielder with power and strength just like Thorne. We may have over paid slightly, but sometimes you just  get unlucky.

I’d say that paying £9m for a player with one good season in the third division was absolute madness for a team in the second division.  I said so at the time.

We should have been paying a maximum of a third of that money for him - or loaned him with view to purchase, if promoted.

Recruitment shouldn’t be that hard.

You design your model and then only bring in players that compliment that system.

Our strategy was to buy every shiny object we saw for exorbitant prices.

They weren’t bad players, they were just not right for us.

Just like Stephen Hawking was a fantastic appointment for Cambridge University, but if Mel Morris was recruiting for Oxford’s boat race team, you could guarantee he’d be throwing money at him to bring him to Oxford.

Falcons in London in October!!

1st Falcons @ Jaguars

8th Jaguars @ Bills

15th Titans @ Ravens

On 08/05/2023 at 22:50, Arsene Titman said:

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/05/08/derby-county-eye-summer-move-for-league-two-team-of-the-season-entry/
 

 

 

I do have to take rumours like this with a pinch of salt, when the journalist in question can’t even employ a spell checker…

I have always thought that young players in the team of the division below is a good place to pick up some potential gems though.