WestLondonRam

Ella he's not a doctor mate ?

We have a case of Schrodinger's Supporters Trust - they are simultaneously silent but also speaking people's behalf at the same time. 
On this point of them speaking on your behalf, can you or any others show me when they have actually done this? When they have claimed to be the voice of all Derby County fans - including those that are not RT members? Do you have that somewhere because it really might help others understand the need for you to clear your chest so.
But glad to see you have found a solution to getting access to the minutes of the group, and it seems that all you have to do is find two hundred bright new pennies and join the group. Who'd 'ave thunk? 

Thanks Angie. I joined RamsTrust too. Couldnt have been easier and at £2 less than a coffee. It is shown easily on their website how to join and you did indeed provide details. Generally in any not for profit body where people volunteer for roles they always get loads of stick and people moaning but others never stand up to be counted or offer themselves for roles. I bet Jim is really pleased he reached out on here to communicate with forum members!!

I think the biggest issue with RT is it seems to have been around forever but has achieved what exactly? Certainly not its objective of getting a seat at the table that's for sure..look at some of the names on their 'Board'..they are the same names that have been there since Day 1 superglued to their seats..
As soon as they had the option to explore potential fan ownership they swiftly put out a statement to say they couldn't do it..did they consult Derby fans? Did they reach out to potential investors? 
It just feels that they have zero ambition apart from  wanting to be the official Trust..

There lays the problem Jim. 
You are a voice for your members, I have never seen an open Membership for the RAMS trust it seems a very closed door. A MOD from here can control the unruly members and sift the rubbish questions. I think through the media in that situation the RAMS trust voice seemed very distant from us the Fans and felt kind of alienating. I don't know the answer to that but I think most Fans felt we didn't know how bad things were with the club or even that we had a voice or a bunch of yes men... 
I'm sure it must be hard to be able to reach everyone but maybe a live stream from the meetings or at least knowing who we can ask when something like the NDA's happen again. 
I hope that nothing like this happens again but even for the purpose of the forum maybe to point us in the right direction to be able to read the notes or see the fielded questions and answers to the RAMS trust questions may help in future. I understand you was under NDA last meeting but previous and the next meetings being posted by RAMS trust to keep us informed?
Kind regards

How much influence do Rams Trust have/hope to have, Under MM very little to non, New owners could be in situ within a couple of months, They'll have their own board of directors, CEO, Secretary, Chairman/Woman ect ect, What is Rams Trust here for, How many members are there in Rams Trust, What have you been doing for the last 5/6 years, DCFC have been put into Admin where were you, Rams Trust come along every now and then with a brief letter/comment through our pretty poor local newspaper the DET.
One of your Senior members tweeted a comment about the colour of Italians...how does that sit with yourself.
 

I don’t think anyone handled the Morris situation well, including reps from this forum. It was a mess unfortunately, mostly caused by Morris and those at the club.
RamsTrust seem to be unfairly lambasted for putting things forward to the club and being wholly representative of all fans opinions. You’ll never get 30,000 plus all having the same view. The point that others have of ‘I don’t think that so why are they saying that to the club’ winds me up. 
I do think that RamsTrust should have a wider presence on social media and here. Showcasing the work that they are doing so there presence is larger. Many don’t have a clue what they do, me included. The 1884 group, Rams Protest Group etc all were more active. Considering this forum is viewed by many, things like this are a good start. 

One of our MODs has recently joined the Rans Trust. I won't say who as it is up to them, not sure if they would want to be as as the 'DCFC Fans Rep' on RamsTrust. 
Even if we as posters may individually have doubts about/issues with RamsTrust, i hope we can engage with Jim and RT in terms of moving forward rather than settling scores. 
If people don't like the way RamsTrust is being run or that it doesn't represent them, they could try joining instead of mardying from the sidelines. That isn't aimed at anyone, just a general thought.   

Those slamming Mel should pause for a moment to think about his intentions.
I do not - for a minute - think he's intended to run the club down.
He has spent millions, not to run the club into debt, but to chase the dream. We all supported that chase.
Even though he's managed things badly, which he admits, I do believe that he genuinely thinks the only way he can get new owners in is to put the club into administration.
I'm very far from happy about that, actually been crying about it, but I think it's sincere on his part.

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Duck the EFL duck The EFL 

Derby!!!!!

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Derby fans are amazing tonight guys… 4 hour drive and I’m glad I done it again… this fan base is amazing… 
best we have had in years…. 
it doesn’t matter what the management is doing but us fans are amazing

Personally from the point of the Buisness I would of built a case for Gross Misconduct, Bringing the club in to disrepute and failing to carry out his duties.  
Club Captain, Goes out drinks too much and doesn't sort the younger members of the team out before a major catastrophe, Gets himself injured in the process and unable to fulfil his Contract needs.
His career is not over as he now has a contract as a footballer. I would of negotiated a smaller contract whilst recovering, If that could not of been reached, I would of offer redundancy.
Kicking him out of the club is Gregorian with no final payment in all his years of service, But the rate could of been agreed before sacking him. You can't sack one person and not the other 2 when he was not in charge of the vehicle.   
As for MM it's not just a failing in the Keogh case... 
EFL Case is a failing. 
Embargo case for 18 Months is a failing
Making Fans sign an NDA is a failing
Signing and sacking Numerus managers is a failing. 
Handling of The fake Sheiks is a failing. 
Lying to the fans is a failing
Buying players and selling them at a fraction of the price is a failing (That hurt his own money)
Refusing to speak to the Fans is a failing. 
The ticket office operation is a failing. 
Not providing HMRC accounts is a failing.
How anyone can think that his tenure has not been a failing I will never know. Yes he invested in the Club and I feel sorry for him but at the end of the day he can't sell the club to anyone as it's under an embargo with no sign of an end. He cannot sit there with Radio silence when the fans are still turning up every week to support that dross, when your local radio aren't even being told what's going on you know there is an issue somewhere. He needs to front it now and move on, The deafly silence is worse than what we are facing with the EFL. 

Personally from the point of the Buisness I would of built a case for Gross Misconduct, Bringing the club in to disrepute and failing to carry out his duties.  
Club Captain, Goes out drinks too much and doesn't sort the younger members of the team out before a major catastrophe, Gets himself injured in the process and unable to fulfil his Contract needs.
His career is not over as he now has a contract as a footballer. I would of negotiated a smaller contract whilst recovering, If that could not of been reached, I would of offer redundancy.
Kicking him out of the club is Gregorian with no final payment in all his years of service, But the rate could of been agreed before sacking him. You can't sack one person and not the other 2 when he was not in charge of the vehicle.   
As for MM it's not just a failing in the Keogh case... 
EFL Case is a failing. 
Embargo case for 18 Months is a failing
Making Fans sign an NDA is a failing
Signing and sacking Numerus managers is a failing. 
Handling of The fake Sheiks is a failing. 
Lying to the fans is a failing
Buying players and selling them at a fraction of the price is a failing (That hurt his own money)
Refusing to speak to the Fans is a failing. 
The ticket office operation is a failing. 
Not providing HMRC accounts is a failing.
How anyone can think that his tenure has not been a failing I will never know. Yes he invested in the Club and I feel sorry for him but at the end of the day he can't sell the club to anyone as it's under an embargo with no sign of an end. He cannot sit there with Radio silence when the fans are still turning up every week to support that dross, when your local radio aren't even being told what's going on you know there is an issue somewhere. He needs to front it now and move on, The deafly silence is worse than what we are facing with the EFL.