Rich84

@jimtastic56 Do you even read what others have posted?
Not speculation or pot stirring for the sake of it, the compensation for developed players is very clearly specified, and as @Crewtonsaid, @Ghost of Cloughhas on numerous occasions shared that breakdown for the rest of us.
The only real risk to getting a decent fee was if he went abroad, as I don't think the compensation is quite as good as domestic transfers 

@jimtastic56 Do you even read what others have posted?
Not speculation or pot stirring for the sake of it, the compensation for developed players is very clearly specified, and as @Crewtonsaid, @Ghost of Cloughhas on numerous occasions shared that breakdown for the rest of us.
The only real risk to getting a decent fee was if he went abroad, as I don't think the compensation is quite as good as domestic transfers 

@jimtastic56 Do you even read what others have posted?
Not speculation or pot stirring for the sake of it, the compensation for developed players is very clearly specified, and as @Crewtonsaid, @Ghost of Cloughhas on numerous occasions shared that breakdown for the rest of us.
The only real risk to getting a decent fee was if he went abroad, as I don't think the compensation is quite as good as domestic transfers 

Seemingly outplayed by Buxton? 

adult football is so so different to academy football. Most of these lads are nowhere near first team ready yet (and that’s no criticism) so the constant hankering for them to be given first team minutes right now is frustrating. 

From what Warne has said, he has stated he wants a change and was never going to sign a new contract irrespective of whether we went up, it happens in all walks of life, he's been here since a kid, so longer than most players stay at 1 club.

That doesn't really help us now, in order for them to join us before the next window I believe the contract needed to have been cancelled before the window closed (hence why Gayle did it when he did). So basically we know the pool of players we can sign before the window reopens.

Amazing how everyone knows how he's performing in training better than the coaching staff, because thats what they will be making their decisions on, yes he looks decent in the age group levels because of his physicality,  just as we've had in the past, Ball anyone?!? Or Whittaker more recently where his physical advantage was pace at youth level, what did most do to him when he was thrown in?
But without that edge he's looked like he's been struggling whenever he had an opportunity,  didn't he start in one of the cup games and had a shocker? And that's not even against regular L1 players.... 
I've also wanted to see us bring thru the academy lads, but maybe this opportunity to play against men regularly for a month may be just what he needs to be a viable option for our run in where we can recall him in 4 weeks...

Weirdly, I think injuries may have an influence but the opposite,  as they start clearing up over the next 4 weeks we will have a stronger squad available for the run in than now.
Just need a certain JC to not pick one up in the next 3-4 weeks or get a couple of yellow cards....

We missed two penalties against Morecombe last season and didn't win the game as a result. A win in that game would have had us finish in the play-offs and may even be a Championship side right now.
England could be reigning European champions if penalties were easy enough to just be disregarded.
Every goal is worth the same, I don't really care how they go in, scoring penalties shouldn't be a way to be negative towards a player...

Weirdly, I think injuries may have an influence but the opposite,  as they start clearing up over the next 4 weeks we will have a stronger squad available for the run in than now.
Just need a certain JC to not pick one up in the next 3-4 weeks or get a couple of yellow cards....

Perhaps one with a striker on it?

All these reasons you keep rolling out to remove goals, have you done the research on every player in the division to come up with a new scoring chart?
So the criteria is you don't include pens, so also don't include free kicks.
No rebounds allowed, so no tap ins from someone else's shot also as that's the same.
No goals against kids meaning the trophy games so none against any team that isn't full strength, which realistically is all cup goals, and whilst we are at it, if a goal is scored against an opposition that doesn't have 11 men on the pitch at the time shouldn't count either.
I think goals against the bottom half teams can arguably be discounted for the players in the top 6 as it isnt a fair contest, after all we don't want anyone to be regarded as flat track bullies, these are the teams that should be beaten anyway as they are rubbish, no better than the 'kids' in the pizza cup as you put it.
So once you've done that we can have a reasoned discussion.
Oh, one more thought, the games discounted due to poor opposition mean they shouldn't count in the total number of games played either, so to make it easy, create a chart where only goals against the top 10 (for ease just use today's table) are scored.
It may make loads of difference,  it may not, I have no idea, but gut feel is, the order in the chart won't look much different to what's on the BBC website, if it does I suggest you write in and complain.

If you cant see it as good news then you're beyond help mate

And yet as a TEAM we’re higher up the league and scored more goals than both of the clubs they play for.  And here’s me thinking that was more important.

Yeah but they’re not “real” goals remember, I’m pretty sure you don’t get the points in a game in which a penalty is scored 

All these reasons you keep rolling out to remove goals, have you done the research on every player in the division to come up with a new scoring chart?
So the criteria is you don't include pens, so also don't include free kicks.
No rebounds allowed, so no tap ins from someone else's shot also as that's the same.
No goals against kids meaning the trophy games so none against any team that isn't full strength, which realistically is all cup goals, and whilst we are at it, if a goal is scored against an opposition that doesn't have 11 men on the pitch at the time shouldn't count either.
I think goals against the bottom half teams can arguably be discounted for the players in the top 6 as it isnt a fair contest, after all we don't want anyone to be regarded as flat track bullies, these are the teams that should be beaten anyway as they are rubbish, no better than the 'kids' in the pizza cup as you put it.
So once you've done that we can have a reasoned discussion.
Oh, one more thought, the games discounted due to poor opposition mean they shouldn't count in the total number of games played either, so to make it easy, create a chart where only goals against the top 10 (for ease just use today's table) are scored.
It may make loads of difference,  it may not, I have no idea, but gut feel is, the order in the chart won't look much different to what's on the BBC website, if it does I suggest you write in and complain.

Weirdly, I think injuries may have an influence but the opposite,  as they start clearing up over the next 4 weeks we will have a stronger squad available for the run in than now.
Just need a certain JC to not pick one up in the next 3-4 weeks or get a couple of yellow cards....

Weirdly, I think injuries may have an influence but the opposite,  as they start clearing up over the next 4 weeks we will have a stronger squad available for the run in than now.
Just need a certain JC to not pick one up in the next 3-4 weeks or get a couple of yellow cards....

All these reasons you keep rolling out to remove goals, have you done the research on every player in the division to come up with a new scoring chart?
So the criteria is you don't include pens, so also don't include free kicks.
No rebounds allowed, so no tap ins from someone else's shot also as that's the same.
No goals against kids meaning the trophy games so none against any team that isn't full strength, which realistically is all cup goals, and whilst we are at it, if a goal is scored against an opposition that doesn't have 11 men on the pitch at the time shouldn't count either.
I think goals against the bottom half teams can arguably be discounted for the players in the top 6 as it isnt a fair contest, after all we don't want anyone to be regarded as flat track bullies, these are the teams that should be beaten anyway as they are rubbish, no better than the 'kids' in the pizza cup as you put it.
So once you've done that we can have a reasoned discussion.
Oh, one more thought, the games discounted due to poor opposition mean they shouldn't count in the total number of games played either, so to make it easy, create a chart where only goals against the top 10 (for ease just use today's table) are scored.
It may make loads of difference,  it may not, I have no idea, but gut feel is, the order in the chart won't look much different to what's on the BBC website, if it does I suggest you write in and complain.

All these reasons you keep rolling out to remove goals, have you done the research on every player in the division to come up with a new scoring chart?
So the criteria is you don't include pens, so also don't include free kicks.
No rebounds allowed, so no tap ins from someone else's shot also as that's the same.
No goals against kids meaning the trophy games so none against any team that isn't full strength, which realistically is all cup goals, and whilst we are at it, if a goal is scored against an opposition that doesn't have 11 men on the pitch at the time shouldn't count either.
I think goals against the bottom half teams can arguably be discounted for the players in the top 6 as it isnt a fair contest, after all we don't want anyone to be regarded as flat track bullies, these are the teams that should be beaten anyway as they are rubbish, no better than the 'kids' in the pizza cup as you put it.
So once you've done that we can have a reasoned discussion.
Oh, one more thought, the games discounted due to poor opposition mean they shouldn't count in the total number of games played either, so to make it easy, create a chart where only goals against the top 10 (for ease just use today's table) are scored.
It may make loads of difference,  it may not, I have no idea, but gut feel is, the order in the chart won't look much different to what's on the BBC website, if it does I suggest you write in and complain.

I’ve enjoyed his football far more than Rooney and roseniorball 

Those making observations about Warne’s style of football and Bird could well be right, maybe he’ll tell us all in a book one day.
A thought that’s occurred to me is maybe he’s just decided it’s time to move on in the summer. He’s been at the club for years, and a lot of those years have been turbulent times, he stood by the club when others walked away or forced their way out, maybe he’s just ready for something else but wants to help towards promotion before he goes.  

Sorry mate I would disagree here.
Forsyth was our only left back on the books in the summer. He signed a one year deal and most agreed he would have been a good squad player to have. We then signed Elder, who pretty much we all agreed on that it was a really good signing. 28 years old, won league one previously, had 10 assists from left back. Unfortunately for him he was injured in pre season and missed most of it. Missing pre season is massive for any player as they are playing catch up.
How do we know that he wouldn't get infront of Forsyth of he'd been fit and firing all season? We don't. He's clearly plenty good enough.
His other signings.
Wilson - Has potential to be really good. 
Bradley - Everyone was absolutely buzzing when we signed him. Didn't start great. Made a couple of mistakes (which is all you need to do in our fans cases before we write someone off) and he's unfortunate that Cashin and Nelson have been so good. We probably signed him expecting Cashin to go.
Fornah - Definitely has potential. Still young. Hardly any experience. But there's definitely a player in there. Sometimes to laid back but he'll learn.
Washington - A player Warne trusts. Just starting to see glimpses (the go against Northampton) of what he could do at this level, getting up to speed. Then he's injured on international duty.
Ward - Obviously with 352 in mind. But now he just looks like he's surplus to requirements. I might be wrong. But I just don't see him getting a game or even on the bench soon.
Waghorn - Steady played. No world beater. Cheap, convenient and will still contribute when he's back fit.
Nyambe - Brilliant signing. Really good defender. 
Vickers - A keeper. Not really don't anything wrong.
TJJ - Massive risk we felt we could take. Obviously looked at his ability and thought we couldn't get much better if we can get him fit. It's not worked out. 
Embleton - Can barely judge this. He did his thigh taking a corner in training.
Some signings don't work out as you hope. It's the way it goes. 
But we don't seem to give anyone a chance before we want them gone or say they are s****. I've seen some having a go at CBT already after playing 80 minutes of football for us.
I've just seen Brighton are letting Dahoud go. A midfielder they signed from Dortmund in the summer. Clearly not worked out it happens.
We're a league one club, with hardly any money, working to restrictions. We can only do what we can do. 

Surely it would be all but done if nearly over the line, not finito....
They just want too much for him, so likely to end up with nothing as we won't meet their demands, makes no sense to me, they have to pay him still in full instead of getting something for him

It’ll mean that the deal is all but dead. Chansiri is digging his heels in, so all but a massive U-turn last minute, that’ll be that.
I’d like to hope there’s a better option out there for us than Gregory. And we shouldn’t be waiting for any U-turn from Wednesday as it’ll ultimately ruin any chance we have of getting a good alternative.