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He was just telling porkies.

1 minute ago, hughesy 1984 said:

If he’s better than we have why not? Everyone raves about our academy, and want players like jhi to get a chance. Yet aren’t interested in loaning special players like delap and Gordon back to help improve our team? Just look what Delap did to our under 23s the other week.

 

With the position we are currently in, I think it’s an obvious option to try and improve our team at little cost. If he is that good, he will surely be able to improve the lowest scoring attack in the league. 

He's 16... He might be one of the best 16 year olds in the country, but he isn't ready to be the saviour of Derby County and if you think we should be relying on a 16 year old to save us then we are in the poop.

Delap is doing well for a talented Man City U23 team, but I still wouldn't want him back at Derby right now as he needs to develop in the right age categories first. We've had some success promoting youth recently, but Sibley was the youngest of those and his bright spark has faded recently.

He wouldn't improve our current first team at this moment, I'm sure if he would then Rooney would've used him more than the 5 minutes against Birmingham when we had already demolished them.

In another reply you mentioned Mount, Wilson and Tomori. All 19 or older and all of them had had previous first team loans before coming to us. Kaide will possibly get to that level, but it's too much to ask of him right now. I won't be surprised to see him get some loans in for experience in a couple of seasons, but Liverpool won't sign him and loan him out as a 16 year old, that isn't their style. Their development squads are full of talent and they like to keep them in that setup until they're past the U18 level.

8 minutes ago, hughesy 1984 said:

Hopefully we can get him back on loan, possibly the rest of this season and next. As would surely be better for his development, rather than not being involved at Liverpool. 

Why would we loan him back to develop him for Liverpool? Doesn't make sense. Our academy is there to develop our players.

The lad is only 16, and although he is a bright young star, he isn't ready for first team football yet. I wouldn't want us to rely on him to get us out of our current mess.

If/when he signs for someone else, he will be in with their youth system for another couple of seasons perhaps with some cup appearances in the first team. Don't expect him to be loaned out and star for any first team for a while yet.

This is like Delap, once he's gone he's gone. The best we can do is get a fee for his potential and have add-ons based on a percentage of his next transfer. If he does well and gets a high value transfer we will get a decent portion based on how his next team (Liverpool) will have helped his development and value increase. If he fades away then we've got a good fee now for someone that didn't quite live up to the hype.

21 minutes ago, angieram said:

I reckon that is a thread in its own right. Go for it!

Curtis Davies as a central defender works too

3 minutes ago, whiteroseram said:

I rate any player who's initials are also his position 

I was thinking this earlier in the season, but we shouldn't try Craig Forsyth at centre forward or David Marshall in defensive midfield. ? 

21/20? So you’re saying next season is this season, in reverse?

edit: damn @Millenniumrambeat me to the pun.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55525813

I'm sure that this isn't the best way for The Blades to put more points on the board... ? 

Get running mate

Does anyone else hope that the Kaide Gordon to United rumour is just someone mishearing Kai Rooney signing for them? ?

29 minutes ago, David said:

 

I think the Rooney interview before the match at the weekend he mentioned how our attack is focussed around CKR and his strengths. I don't care if people think he has limitations, the guy is so passionate for his team and he lets that power his game. Can't wait until fans are allowed in to show their appreciation for a player like him. It should turn him into a Super Saiyan! ? 

Kazim is GOD.

Glad I signed up early.

Thought he was great today and we lost all impetus when he came off.

I’ve been hopefully that he’d be a shrewd signing since he was announced. The cameo against Forest showed us what he is capable of and I think he is the piece of the jigsaw we’ve needed all season.

Just got to get the other jigsaw pieces in the right places around him!

I like to think The F in JFR stands for ducking... Johnny ducking Russell scores again!

I see Southgate is nicking Cocu’s 3-4-3 tactics tonight. Coady is a poor mans Davies ?

Hopefully for opposition defenders ?

Strong looking team for tonight. Hutchinson straight into the team too.

No Shonibare. Loan agreed or First team contention?

Was there any confirmation to the reason that Shonibare didn't play last night? I know a few people mentioned he must have a loan set up, but maybe he has an outside chance of making the first team squad this weekend. His performances have been great so far in the U23's and with Ibe and Lawrence not ready to play yet, maybe Cocu thinks he could offer something this weekend.

Just wanted to bump this thread to highlight the free stream of the U23s v Liverpool on Rams TV tonight. Kick off is 7pm. Should be two strong teams and hopefully a better watch than the first team has been so far ?