Mucker1884

Everyone at St John's school in Belper wanted a pair of white boots..... 
..... Footie boots for the lads and knee high disco ones for the lasses..... ?
LGBTQ not really a thing in Belper in the 70s. Diversity was not going to the chippy.... 

Alan Hinton has always been interested in and appreciative of the work I put in to preserve the history and rich heritage of the club going back a long time so it was a great surprise to hear from him that he wanted to send over his iconic match worn, signed white Hummel boots from the early 1970s.
He was one of the first to go against the grain and you had to have confidence in your ability to stand out to that extent, he did of course have ability in abundance and could ping in a cross from any angle with either foot, he was also top scorer in the Championship Winning season in 1971-72.
A real piece of our history.

They've only just got promoted!  Why on earth would he want them to drop straight back to the Championship? ?‍♂️ 

No mate.  Anyone can own a corner flag, regardless of nationality.

They've only just got promoted!  Why on earth would he want them to drop straight back to the Championship? ?‍♂️ 

Not all Brits,agree Mucker,but just most

#Notallbrits

However many good natured people "invade" the pitch after a promotion, title win, or play off qualification, I'd wager there are more in the stands (and/or on the terraces, where applicable) hoping that the players catch their breath, then return to join in the celebrations/receive the adulation of the crowd/thank the fans for their loyal support/wave their goodbyes after retiring from a 20 year playing career, with devotion in their hearts, and tears in their eyes... etc ... etc!
 
 
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Has gotta be better than...
  + Oh...  erm... Well, maybe they'll pop up into the directors box, if we're lucky!  
 
 
I literally don't care how many people tell me how "fantastic" it was being on the pitch in the rain after the Southampton game.  "Pfft", I say unto them!
Seeing the glorious sun glisten off that trophy as our whiter-than-white-topped heroes proudly paraded around the full perimeter of the pitch... thanking us... celebrating WITH us... waving to us... and holding that silver beauty aloft for each and every one of us to catch more than a fleeting glimpse... was not only my first ever post match experience*, but something I will cherish for eternity, taking the memory to my grave... No doubt with my heart still proudly pumping!  ?
 
*Yeah... OK... I did kinda expect that every week, to be fair!   ?
 
 
 
 
 
PS:
OK, we were away... but how many on here claim that night at Elland Rd to be right up there as their best ever footy night?  That's because the players had the opportunity to join in the celebrations.  Teamwork!  Players, fans (and Mel! ?) in perfect harmony!

 
 
 

What if a playoff semi final win was against a team who’s fans might have reacted differently - Leeds, Birmingham, Forest or Millwall. Would the punishment be different than a pitch invasion after a game against the likes of Brighton or Southampton? The benefit of a blanket ban is that it can (and should be) applied consistently without someone having to make a judgement call as to the level of risk of inciting the opposition fans or injuring one of their players. I’m with @Mucker1884 on this one and don’t really see the need to run on the pitch to celebrate an important victory.
Even though actually implementing the punishment would be somewhat difficult (to say the least) in the event of a pitch invasion, the message should be the same.

However many good natured people "invade" the pitch after a promotion, title win, or play off qualification, I'd wager there are more in the stands (and/or on the terraces, where applicable) hoping that the players catch their breath, then return to join in the celebrations/receive the adulation of the crowd/thank the fans for their loyal support/wave their goodbyes after retiring from a 20 year playing career, with devotion in their hearts, and tears in their eyes... etc ... etc!
 
 
    +   
 
 
Has gotta be better than...
  + Oh...  erm... Well, maybe they'll pop up into the directors box, if we're lucky!  
 
 
I literally don't care how many people tell me how "fantastic" it was being on the pitch in the rain after the Southampton game.  "Pfft", I say unto them!
Seeing the glorious sun glisten off that trophy as our whiter-than-white-topped heroes proudly paraded around the full perimeter of the pitch... thanking us... celebrating WITH us... waving to us... and holding that silver beauty aloft for each and every one of us to catch more than a fleeting glimpse... was not only my first ever post match experience*, but something I will cherish for eternity, taking the memory to my grave... No doubt with my heart still proudly pumping!  ?
 
*Yeah... OK... I did kinda expect that every week, to be fair!   ?
 
 
 
 
 
PS:
OK, we were away... but how many on here claim that night at Elland Rd to be right up there as their best ever footy night?  That's because the players had the opportunity to join in the celebrations.  Teamwork!  Players, fans (and Mel! ?) in perfect harmony!

 
 
 

#Notallbrits

However many good natured people "invade" the pitch after a promotion, title win, or play off qualification, I'd wager there are more in the stands (and/or on the terraces, where applicable) hoping that the players catch their breath, then return to join in the celebrations/receive the adulation of the crowd/thank the fans for their loyal support/wave their goodbyes after retiring from a 20 year playing career, with devotion in their hearts, and tears in their eyes... etc ... etc!
 
 
    +   
 
 
Has gotta be better than...
  + Oh...  erm... Well, maybe they'll pop up into the directors box, if we're lucky!  
 
 
I literally don't care how many people tell me how "fantastic" it was being on the pitch in the rain after the Southampton game.  "Pfft", I say unto them!
Seeing the glorious sun glisten off that trophy as our whiter-than-white-topped heroes proudly paraded around the full perimeter of the pitch... thanking us... celebrating WITH us... waving to us... and holding that silver beauty aloft for each and every one of us to catch more than a fleeting glimpse... was not only my first ever post match experience*, but something I will cherish for eternity, taking the memory to my grave... No doubt with my heart still proudly pumping!  ?
 
*Yeah... OK... I did kinda expect that every week, to be fair!   ?
 
 
 
 
 
PS:
OK, we were away... but how many on here claim that night at Elland Rd to be right up there as their best ever footy night?  That's because the players had the opportunity to join in the celebrations.  Teamwork!  Players, fans (and Mel! ?) in perfect harmony!

 
 
 

The rules have clearly been put in place not to ruin atmospheres, but the safety of other fans and players on the pitch. 
Being a fan does not give you the right to enter the ground and do as you please as you paid for your ticket, you enter any venue be it a cinema, pub, supermarket, or even post online be it social media platforms or forums like this, you have condition of entry guidelines in place. 
So whilst it might not be illegal to film others using pyro, if social media platforms agree not to allow that content posted on their websites, they are the rules, likewise they could today ban all dog photos if they so please. They are privately owned platforms.
Regardless of personal opinion on the new rules, we all have 2 choices, either obey them or run the risk of facing a lifetime ban.
It’s been made pretty clear, so anyone caught in possession of drugs, pyro or run on to the pitch can now have zero complaints when they receive the ban.
This all should come as no surprise after the scenes at the backend of last season, they had to act and appear to be doing so with strict zero tolerance, it remains to be seen if it is just a threat or action is taken.

With respect my friend, is there any possibility you may change your stance once a player gets stabbed... or do you need to wait until that happens, as (understandably) you can't see into the future?
Let's just find a way to keep 'em off, eh?  The "KEEP OFF THE GRASS" sign doesn't seem to be achieving much!
Better to be seen to be trying, than not trying at all?  No?  

Well we’ll have to disagree then. Issuing a message of the potential consequences, should you be thinking about committing an offence, is absolutely ethical IMO. Also, it’s not just “a message to others”. The perpetrators of the crime themselves would/should be aware before they transgress. 
 
With regard to “hardened authoritarianism”, I did say a lifetime ban would need to be dependent on the severity of the offence (it will take people with bigger brains than me to work that one out) and I really don’t think banning someone for life from football grounds is the thin end of the wedge you seem to fear.

To be fair, police dogs don’t normally attend events to socialise and make friends with the supporters ? so I’m not surprised at the police officers reaction.

Don't ask complicated questions LOL.
 

Something needs to be done, so a yes from me.
Pyrotechnics have no place in crowds of folk with little opportunity for a short, sharp escape route.
Individual pitch invaders are tedious at best, embarrassing by their very nature, and a threat to those trying to carry out their job on the pitch.  I would add to that though, that they need to put a stop to ALL pitch invasions.  Last day celebrations? Play off wins?  Relegation avoidance? Yep, those too!
The authorities cannot... and should not... afford to pick and choose who to report, who to punish, and when to turn a blind eye.
I'm all for a cracking atmosphere.  I'm all for passion.  Crikey, I've even been known to be a tad boisterous myself, on the occasional weekend!
But we have to draw lines, and we have to stay on the right side of them.
But if they're gonna talk the talk, they need to be seen to be walking the walk!
I repeat... It's a yes from me.

Something needs to be done, so a yes from me.
Pyrotechnics have no place in crowds of folk with little opportunity for a short, sharp escape route.
Individual pitch invaders are tedious at best, embarrassing by their very nature, and a threat to those trying to carry out their job on the pitch.  I would add to that though, that they need to put a stop to ALL pitch invasions.  Last day celebrations? Play off wins?  Relegation avoidance? Yep, those too!
The authorities cannot... and should not... afford to pick and choose who to report, who to punish, and when to turn a blind eye.
I'm all for a cracking atmosphere.  I'm all for passion.  Crikey, I've even been known to be a tad boisterous myself, on the occasional weekend!
But we have to draw lines, and we have to stay on the right side of them.
But if they're gonna talk the talk, they need to be seen to be walking the walk!
I repeat... It's a yes from me.

Watch the game first mate and then what happens later stays in Derby. ?

Holding up signs asking for a players shirt at full time should result in an instant ban too.

Perhaps it's BECAUSE of what we've been through these last couple of years!  ?‍♂️

Something needs to be done, so a yes from me.
Pyrotechnics have no place in crowds of folk with little opportunity for a short, sharp escape route.
Individual pitch invaders are tedious at best, embarrassing by their very nature, and a threat to those trying to carry out their job on the pitch.  I would add to that though, that they need to put a stop to ALL pitch invasions.  Last day celebrations? Play off wins?  Relegation avoidance? Yep, those too!
The authorities cannot... and should not... afford to pick and choose who to report, who to punish, and when to turn a blind eye.
I'm all for a cracking atmosphere.  I'm all for passion.  Crikey, I've even been known to be a tad boisterous myself, on the occasional weekend!
But we have to draw lines, and we have to stay on the right side of them.
But if they're gonna talk the talk, they need to be seen to be walking the walk!
I repeat... It's a yes from me.

Will they stop the gumps throwing objects at the away fans below?
They've not bothered trying for the last 15 years or so. Maybe the prem will be a bit harsher as they will get complaints off the Nick Hornby types?

Something needs to be done, so a yes from me.
Pyrotechnics have no place in crowds of folk with little opportunity for a short, sharp escape route.
Individual pitch invaders are tedious at best, embarrassing by their very nature, and a threat to those trying to carry out their job on the pitch.  I would add to that though, that they need to put a stop to ALL pitch invasions.  Last day celebrations? Play off wins?  Relegation avoidance? Yep, those too!
The authorities cannot... and should not... afford to pick and choose who to report, who to punish, and when to turn a blind eye.
I'm all for a cracking atmosphere.  I'm all for passion.  Crikey, I've even been known to be a tad boisterous myself, on the occasional weekend!
But we have to draw lines, and we have to stay on the right side of them.
But if they're gonna talk the talk, they need to be seen to be walking the walk!
I repeat... It's a yes from me.