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That's nice - they've managed to fit both of their fans' names on it.

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You tell 'em!!! 🤣

Why couldn't people simply wait until the game was over? We effectively forced the ref to end the game 2 minutes early and were lucky we got away with that and it was declared full time. 
Yes I know that might seem a joyless, boring attitude, but I'd rather not have more points deductions or see players get hurt. 

Was he dreadful for us?, really?. The 21 points got us relegated. We'd have been around 17th wih those points back. We had no budget for players too. He put his hand in his own pocket a few times as I recall.
Whatever you may think of him, imo he conducted himself superbly under diabolical circumstances. Remember he's worth over £170 mill, he could have just walked away that season but he didn't.
I have nothing but respect for him for that reason and I hope he does well at plymouth.

I played padel with Ben Osborn last night and he assured me that he's desperate to play for Derby and can't wait to get himself 'in the building'.

Which way do the tannoy speakers face mate? 🫢

Have seen a lot of references to bad planning in this thread. Not going to defend every decision the Council has ever made but almost every planning decision is looked on with the benefit of hindsight and current thinking. Just as an example,  when Westfield (as it was known) was granted permission it was in the context of a massive retail boom, an extremely strong high street and the assumption, reasonable at the time, that Derby could maintain Debenhams where it was and attract another major department store.  The Castlefields Main Centre (anybody remember that?) on which Westfield/Intu/Derbion stands was a desolate wasteland. A tired, outdated precinct with very high vacant levels. Frankly, it was crying out for regeneration and very few people would have been sad to see it go.  Westfield made sense (in principle - not going to get into its architecture which is subjective.)
In the time between granting permission, the spades going in the ground and the thing opening, the world changed. Unexpected global recession followed by the complete decimation of the high street, which turned from a potential momentary blip into long term fundamental changes to the way people shop (particularly the internet but also how supermarkets expanded their ranges massively). Department stores rapidly became a thing of the past, several went bust before Westfield opened. The owners had nowhere to go other than Debenhams and M&S. We know the rest and what has continued to happen to our shopping habits, the economy, covid and so on.  All have impacted on town and city centres. There is too much shopping floorspace everywhere. This means vacancies, decline, and so on. Derby isn’t alone in this.  Looking at it now, it is easy to say Westfield was a mistake and if only it hadn’t been built then Derby would have offered some utopian shopping and leisure experience. I don’t think that is true. I think there would the same issues, but you’d have the old Eagle Centre falling apart, the Castlefield Main Centre as another boarded up and probably closed plot crying out for attention and you’d still have a lot of vacancies. But my point here is that suggesting Westfield was a bad planning decision is very easy 20 years later but at the time it absolutely made sense and was the right thing to do in principle (again, not debating the design or details). 
That is often the case and that’s just an example. I’m sure the planners and Councillors in the 60s had good reasons for their decisions that made sense at the time. I doubt they were in the Council chamber twirling their moustaches and actively trying to ruin the City. Views on heritage have changed over time, views on the environment have changed over time, just as they have in transport priorities etc etc etc. 
Yes, in hindsight some of these decisions look bad and and misguided but to suggest there has been some long term incompetence or deliberate negligence is, in my view, just a bit too simplistic and ‘easy’.  Also, don’t underestimate the influence of government policy (changes all the time), the law, the market (much of planning is reacting to proposals not necessarily being able to be proactive), funding, technology so on and so forth. Not easy to predict how things will change and easy to be caught out. 
I will add a caveat. Not all decisions are necessarily good ones and certainly don’t want to suggest that anybody criticising aspects of the city’s built environment, however subjective, is necessarily wrong. Don’t want to get into that debate really. Just wanted to highlight that without taking the context into account lumping all planning decisions in the last 60+ years as ‘bad’ might not be entirely fair.
For those saying there has been no vision for the city either, are you aware of successive City Centre masterplans? Been around for a while but can’t remember when the first one came out. A while ago (some may remember Derby Cityscape who came up with their master plan and then the Council I’m sure have produced more since). Guarantee there’s always a vision and always a plan… now whether it gets implemented or people agree with it might be a different matter. But again, but simplistic to say ‘there’s been no long term planning’. Maybe more ‘I don’t agree with the long term planning or have seen precious little evidence of the benefits’. Semantics perhaps.
Sorry that was a long and tedious stream of consciousness! Anyway, I might be inclined to agree the City has seen better days but my job takes me to a lot of other city’s and it doesn’t seem massively different from those. 
 

Not paying the taxes came long after Maguire sticking his beak in.

Just incase anyone misses the 300 times sky mention it Archie Gray is the great nephew of Eddie Gray 

Not a huge fan of Utd but I would like it if they could hold on to this lead. Notwithstanding the fact Man City are massive cheats, their dominance is becoming/has become very tedious. 

I enjoyed it

If only he had you as his assistant, he might actually win some trophies then.

Not a huge fan of Utd but I would like it if they could hold on to this lead. Notwithstanding the fact Man City are massive cheats, their dominance is becoming/has become very tedious. 

Have seen a lot of references to bad planning in this thread. Not going to defend every decision the Council has ever made but almost every planning decision is looked on with the benefit of hindsight and current thinking. Just as an example,  when Westfield (as it was known) was granted permission it was in the context of a massive retail boom, an extremely strong high street and the assumption, reasonable at the time, that Derby could maintain Debenhams where it was and attract another major department store.  The Castlefields Main Centre (anybody remember that?) on which Westfield/Intu/Derbion stands was a desolate wasteland. A tired, outdated precinct with very high vacant levels. Frankly, it was crying out for regeneration and very few people would have been sad to see it go.  Westfield made sense (in principle - not going to get into its architecture which is subjective.)
In the time between granting permission, the spades going in the ground and the thing opening, the world changed. Unexpected global recession followed by the complete decimation of the high street, which turned from a potential momentary blip into long term fundamental changes to the way people shop (particularly the internet but also how supermarkets expanded their ranges massively). Department stores rapidly became a thing of the past, several went bust before Westfield opened. The owners had nowhere to go other than Debenhams and M&S. We know the rest and what has continued to happen to our shopping habits, the economy, covid and so on.  All have impacted on town and city centres. There is too much shopping floorspace everywhere. This means vacancies, decline, and so on. Derby isn’t alone in this.  Looking at it now, it is easy to say Westfield was a mistake and if only it hadn’t been built then Derby would have offered some utopian shopping and leisure experience. I don’t think that is true. I think there would the same issues, but you’d have the old Eagle Centre falling apart, the Castlefield Main Centre as another boarded up and probably closed plot crying out for attention and you’d still have a lot of vacancies. But my point here is that suggesting Westfield was a bad planning decision is very easy 20 years later but at the time it absolutely made sense and was the right thing to do in principle (again, not debating the design or details). 
That is often the case and that’s just an example. I’m sure the planners and Councillors in the 60s had good reasons for their decisions that made sense at the time. I doubt they were in the Council chamber twirling their moustaches and actively trying to ruin the City. Views on heritage have changed over time, views on the environment have changed over time, just as they have in transport priorities etc etc etc. 
Yes, in hindsight some of these decisions look bad and and misguided but to suggest there has been some long term incompetence or deliberate negligence is, in my view, just a bit too simplistic and ‘easy’.  Also, don’t underestimate the influence of government policy (changes all the time), the law, the market (much of planning is reacting to proposals not necessarily being able to be proactive), funding, technology so on and so forth. Not easy to predict how things will change and easy to be caught out. 
I will add a caveat. Not all decisions are necessarily good ones and certainly don’t want to suggest that anybody criticising aspects of the city’s built environment, however subjective, is necessarily wrong. Don’t want to get into that debate really. Just wanted to highlight that without taking the context into account lumping all planning decisions in the last 60+ years as ‘bad’ might not be entirely fair.
For those saying there has been no vision for the city either, are you aware of successive City Centre masterplans? Been around for a while but can’t remember when the first one came out. A while ago (some may remember Derby Cityscape who came up with their master plan and then the Council I’m sure have produced more since). Guarantee there’s always a vision and always a plan… now whether it gets implemented or people agree with it might be a different matter. But again, but simplistic to say ‘there’s been no long term planning’. Maybe more ‘I don’t agree with the long term planning or have seen precious little evidence of the benefits’. Semantics perhaps.
Sorry that was a long and tedious stream of consciousness! Anyway, I might be inclined to agree the City has seen better days but my job takes me to a lot of other city’s and it doesn’t seem massively different from those. 
 

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Have seen a lot of references to bad planning in this thread. Not going to defend every decision the Council has ever made but almost every planning decision is looked on with the benefit of hindsight and current thinking. Just as an example,  when Westfield (as it was known) was granted permission it was in the context of a massive retail boom, an extremely strong high street and the assumption, reasonable at the time, that Derby could maintain Debenhams where it was and attract another major department store.  The Castlefields Main Centre (anybody remember that?) on which Westfield/Intu/Derbion stands was a desolate wasteland. A tired, outdated precinct with very high vacant levels. Frankly, it was crying out for regeneration and very few people would have been sad to see it go.  Westfield made sense (in principle - not going to get into its architecture which is subjective.)
In the time between granting permission, the spades going in the ground and the thing opening, the world changed. Unexpected global recession followed by the complete decimation of the high street, which turned from a potential momentary blip into long term fundamental changes to the way people shop (particularly the internet but also how supermarkets expanded their ranges massively). Department stores rapidly became a thing of the past, several went bust before Westfield opened. The owners had nowhere to go other than Debenhams and M&S. We know the rest and what has continued to happen to our shopping habits, the economy, covid and so on.  All have impacted on town and city centres. There is too much shopping floorspace everywhere. This means vacancies, decline, and so on. Derby isn’t alone in this.  Looking at it now, it is easy to say Westfield was a mistake and if only it hadn’t been built then Derby would have offered some utopian shopping and leisure experience. I don’t think that is true. I think there would the same issues, but you’d have the old Eagle Centre falling apart, the Castlefield Main Centre as another boarded up and probably closed plot crying out for attention and you’d still have a lot of vacancies. But my point here is that suggesting Westfield was a bad planning decision is very easy 20 years later but at the time it absolutely made sense and was the right thing to do in principle (again, not debating the design or details). 
That is often the case and that’s just an example. I’m sure the planners and Councillors in the 60s had good reasons for their decisions that made sense at the time. I doubt they were in the Council chamber twirling their moustaches and actively trying to ruin the City. Views on heritage have changed over time, views on the environment have changed over time, just as they have in transport priorities etc etc etc. 
Yes, in hindsight some of these decisions look bad and and misguided but to suggest there has been some long term incompetence or deliberate negligence is, in my view, just a bit too simplistic and ‘easy’.  Also, don’t underestimate the influence of government policy (changes all the time), the law, the market (much of planning is reacting to proposals not necessarily being able to be proactive), funding, technology so on and so forth. Not easy to predict how things will change and easy to be caught out. 
I will add a caveat. Not all decisions are necessarily good ones and certainly don’t want to suggest that anybody criticising aspects of the city’s built environment, however subjective, is necessarily wrong. Don’t want to get into that debate really. Just wanted to highlight that without taking the context into account lumping all planning decisions in the last 60+ years as ‘bad’ might not be entirely fair.
For those saying there has been no vision for the city either, are you aware of successive City Centre masterplans? Been around for a while but can’t remember when the first one came out. A while ago (some may remember Derby Cityscape who came up with their master plan and then the Council I’m sure have produced more since). Guarantee there’s always a vision and always a plan… now whether it gets implemented or people agree with it might be a different matter. But again, but simplistic to say ‘there’s been no long term planning’. Maybe more ‘I don’t agree with the long term planning or have seen precious little evidence of the benefits’. Semantics perhaps.
Sorry that was a long and tedious stream of consciousness! Anyway, I might be inclined to agree the City has seen better days but my job takes me to a lot of other city’s and it doesn’t seem massively different from those. 
 

Have seen a lot of references to bad planning in this thread. Not going to defend every decision the Council has ever made but almost every planning decision is looked on with the benefit of hindsight and current thinking. Just as an example,  when Westfield (as it was known) was granted permission it was in the context of a massive retail boom, an extremely strong high street and the assumption, reasonable at the time, that Derby could maintain Debenhams where it was and attract another major department store.  The Castlefields Main Centre (anybody remember that?) on which Westfield/Intu/Derbion stands was a desolate wasteland. A tired, outdated precinct with very high vacant levels. Frankly, it was crying out for regeneration and very few people would have been sad to see it go.  Westfield made sense (in principle - not going to get into its architecture which is subjective.)
In the time between granting permission, the spades going in the ground and the thing opening, the world changed. Unexpected global recession followed by the complete decimation of the high street, which turned from a potential momentary blip into long term fundamental changes to the way people shop (particularly the internet but also how supermarkets expanded their ranges massively). Department stores rapidly became a thing of the past, several went bust before Westfield opened. The owners had nowhere to go other than Debenhams and M&S. We know the rest and what has continued to happen to our shopping habits, the economy, covid and so on.  All have impacted on town and city centres. There is too much shopping floorspace everywhere. This means vacancies, decline, and so on. Derby isn’t alone in this.  Looking at it now, it is easy to say Westfield was a mistake and if only it hadn’t been built then Derby would have offered some utopian shopping and leisure experience. I don’t think that is true. I think there would the same issues, but you’d have the old Eagle Centre falling apart, the Castlefield Main Centre as another boarded up and probably closed plot crying out for attention and you’d still have a lot of vacancies. But my point here is that suggesting Westfield was a bad planning decision is very easy 20 years later but at the time it absolutely made sense and was the right thing to do in principle (again, not debating the design or details). 
That is often the case and that’s just an example. I’m sure the planners and Councillors in the 60s had good reasons for their decisions that made sense at the time. I doubt they were in the Council chamber twirling their moustaches and actively trying to ruin the City. Views on heritage have changed over time, views on the environment have changed over time, just as they have in transport priorities etc etc etc. 
Yes, in hindsight some of these decisions look bad and and misguided but to suggest there has been some long term incompetence or deliberate negligence is, in my view, just a bit too simplistic and ‘easy’.  Also, don’t underestimate the influence of government policy (changes all the time), the law, the market (much of planning is reacting to proposals not necessarily being able to be proactive), funding, technology so on and so forth. Not easy to predict how things will change and easy to be caught out. 
I will add a caveat. Not all decisions are necessarily good ones and certainly don’t want to suggest that anybody criticising aspects of the city’s built environment, however subjective, is necessarily wrong. Don’t want to get into that debate really. Just wanted to highlight that without taking the context into account lumping all planning decisions in the last 60+ years as ‘bad’ might not be entirely fair.
For those saying there has been no vision for the city either, are you aware of successive City Centre masterplans? Been around for a while but can’t remember when the first one came out. A while ago (some may remember Derby Cityscape who came up with their master plan and then the Council I’m sure have produced more since). Guarantee there’s always a vision and always a plan… now whether it gets implemented or people agree with it might be a different matter. But again, but simplistic to say ‘there’s been no long term planning’. Maybe more ‘I don’t agree with the long term planning or have seen precious little evidence of the benefits’. Semantics perhaps.
Sorry that was a long and tedious stream of consciousness! Anyway, I might be inclined to agree the City has seen better days but my job takes me to a lot of other city’s and it doesn’t seem massively different from those. 
 

I'd say Derby is no worse than many other small cities. 
The Museum of Making is an internationally award-winning museum.
The Pickford collection is world-renowned for being hosted in the city.
Our engineering past and present is awe-inspiring.
Festivals like Format and Feste attract thousands to the city.
Derbion, not to everyone's tastes, but is an excellent shopping destination.
Darley, Markeaton and Allestree parks all in walking distance, Peaks and Dales a short drive.
Yes, St Peters St had a drug problem, but has improved from 5-10yrs ago. It still needs help, lots of empty shops but no different to any other city.
Huge numbers of homes are being built in the city centre, the Goods Yard is being rebuilt, a new performance venue is imminent, as is a new business school.
It's not perfect, but efforts are being made to improve it and if you are linked to the city, it would be better served by not running it down all the time.
Articles like the Which one are lazy, reductive and usually written by sneering journalists who haven't left London in a decade. So yes, Derby isn't as easy to get around as the capital, and it doesn't have the same level of cultural facilities, perhaps investment in our region that matches what other regions receive would help.
And it's a far better place than Stoke at the very least!

Only one of the departures who I’m really disappointed about. He’s been a cracking keeper and shame another club will benefit. Oh well. It happens. 

Only one of the departures who I’m really disappointed about. He’s been a cracking keeper and shame another club will benefit. Oh well. It happens. 

Only one of the departures who I’m really disappointed about. He’s been a cracking keeper and shame another club will benefit. Oh well. It happens. 

Only one of the departures who I’m really disappointed about. He’s been a cracking keeper and shame another club will benefit. Oh well. It happens.