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19 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

I say it’s clear to anyone without an agenda that Warne has signed players both with technical ability (Ward, Wilson, Embleton, John-Jules, CBT) AND those with physicality in their game (Nelson, Nyambe, Bradley, Adams).

He does favour an athleticism to his sides, but acting as though he hasn’t also signed and played players with some technical ability is very much the pushing of an agenda that goes on on here and amongst the fan base. How can some people claim he’s stubborn in his selection of Hourihane in one breath then say he only uses physical players in another? 

We’re not a perfect team, there’s been some frustrating games this season for sure and some shocking performances, there’s also been some good stuff too. 
I really find the stance of “this or that” to be so tedious. 

Being objective I think people should be able to admit there’s at least some use of technical players this season and last (McGoldrick, Sibley, NML, Hourihane, Barkhuizen, Ward, Wilson, Bird) alongside the athleticism of others. Almost as if the team needed a blend of both and it’s worked to the point of putting the side in touching distance of automatic promotion…. But that’s just my opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️ 

I never said he didn't sign any technical players or doesn't play them. Every team needs some players with ability, you can't win anything with 11 cloggers. 

McGoldrick, Sibley, NML, Hourihane, Barkhuizen, Bird are all players he didn't sign, and he obviously can't sign a whole squad, so he's played them. He had to play McGoldrick and NML they were/are too good for the division. Bird has been sold and the others are having their contracts ran down.

He often came out after games saying we had no bite or aggression in midfield when playing with Hourinhane and Bird.

He has signed physical players and technical players, but you can see by the way he sets up and the way the team plays, he's swinging towards the physical side of the game. Record set piece goals is an indicator of that. Run more than the opposition first, technical stuff second.

When Ward, Wilson, Nyambe all fit, Nyambe played. No one knows what type of player embleton would have been. JJ when fit, was second or third choice and CBT can hardly get a game because he's not fit enough for Warne ball.

11 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

I said Warne is closer to McCarthy than McClaren. Are you saying that statement is wrong? 

I’d like to see the evidence that shows Warne prefers flair over physicality. 

You won't find any. It's clear to anyone without an agenda that Warne prefers players who are physical, athletic and aggressive. The likes of Thomson struggle to get into the team over someone like Korey Smith, even though he's a much better player. Bird is leaving because his technical ability goes over Warne's head. And then look at someone like CBT. First half of the season he was one of the leagues better players, but suddenly we sign him and he can't get a spot - alluded to in interviews that he can't get up to pace with the squad.

Not to say this approach is bad, or to make it sound negative, but why are so many people getting defensive about it when you say Warne is a physical type manager. It's clear to see through his career that's the case, and while I do think he's a little less "lump it to the fast strong forwards" than he was at Rotherham, he's not changed too much.

It's evident when our most gifted technical players have left, are leaving, or are running out of contract.

Don't know why people are having a go at birdy, his style of play is the antithesis of Warne's. Whilst he's the manager at the club we are going to continue to see proper footballers leave and be replaced by cloggers.

I don't care how old a player is as long as he's good enough.

We can't sit and wait for the perfect player to come along, we need to get out the division.

9 hours ago, Magicman said:

Not at all - GT had physical injuries that ended his career - Ibe never matched him. Ibe wasted his chances. 

So you're a hypocrite then? Why is one okay, and the other "can't be arsed". Physical injuries and mental health are no different. After reading the other responses you have made in this thread, I won't be responding to you again. Your views are disgusting.

On 28/06/2023 at 06:00, Magicman said:

Most people in his position would have access to the best counsellors and medication so no excuses he should have been able to play but my view is he couldn't be arsed - too much money too young and off field distractions. 

George Thorne had access to the best facilities, doctors and medication too, but he ended up retiring. I guess you also think that he "couldn't be arsed" too?

Even if we manage to sort out a new owner now, it's too late for next season. By the time the process is done we will most likely have had to sell off our remaining players for nothing, and won't be able to assemble a squad. So whatever kids are left at the club will be playing.

I can't see any outcome for next season other than straight relegation to league 2

33 minutes ago, Barney1991 said:

We wouldn’t own pride park as Mel would own it so we would have to buy the ground or msd would own it. We’d also have to rent the training ground and they’ve got a charge because of Derby so who’s to stop whoever owns the training ground from saying on your bike? 
 

also the other clubs have to vote us back in. How likely is that to happen. Ohh you’ve liquidated and got all your debt written off and bury had to start again in the basement league but it’s alright we will give you a place in league 2 at the expense of somebody in the national league? 

It wouldn't be at the expense of another club, with only 2 teams going down to league one, it would be 1 short, most likely then an extra team from league 2 would be promoted to replace, leaving a space in league 2.

Don't think people realise though that this plan leaves us with no staff or players, first team or academy. 

It's a bit of a dirty trick by the efl if true. Pay £30m for a league 1 team or let us liquidate and pick up a league 2 team for nothing. The investors currently looking at it would surely do that. 

23 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

Until we went into admin the EFL allowed Gibson and his henchmen to ride over us roughshod. Since then they have realised they are in the firing line. So instead of showing the leadership we need, they have focused on the rules and on covering their own backsides.
 

Quantuma’s statement is disingenuous and designed to make us conclude the EFl is to blame. THEY HAD NO PLAN B ! SCHOOLBOY ERROR 

Quantuma shouldn't have to have a plan B. Rules are rules and laws are laws. They are a professional accredited business and they follow the law. They are following the law.  

They aren't here to "show leadership", they are here to follow the law, and provide the best deal for the creditors. Too right they are covering their backsides, would you just wing it if you were in a legal situation.

What we are seeing here is the EFL being upset they couldn't relegate us last season and they are trying their hardest to do it this time, in fact attempting to break UK insolvency laws to do so.

I'm sure any administrator wouldn't expect to have to deal with a governing body which is basically acting like a petulant child that can't get was they want.

Some may say the EFL don't have a vendetta against us, but the day that they came out and said they were "disappointed" with the findings of the independent panel, they cemented that they do, and their actions since then have shown that they are a corrupt disgrace.

This isn't going to stop with us. They wiped out Macclesfield, they kicked out Bury, they let a fraudster take over at Wigan then washed their hands of it a month later, they sent Bolton to league 2, and they are going to liquidate Derby. 

The league needs to be restructured and the EFL needs to be removed.

Surely if you follow Wycombe's claim to it's logical conclusion it makes no sense. 

They say we should have been deducted the points in the season it happened and therefore they would have stayed up. But then by that logic Sheff Wed should have had their 6 points deducted the season before, meaning they would have finished above Wycombe last season and they would have still gone down.

If Boro think their claim will be successful, where does that end. A team gets into the playoffs, but a player dived for a penalty to get the point that did it. Can you sue them? A player scores the winning goal but is given a retrospective red card for an elbow, can you sue them?

3 hours ago, Jubbs said:

Appleby is still in and I know who I'd certainly prefer.

But isn't he in with Sam Rush? If you don't like the Rooney/Kirchner relationship then surely the Rush/Wasserman relationship should be just as worrying. In fact, it's partially to blame for putting us in this mess in the first place.

28 minutes ago, kingsy1884 said:

Be careful what you wish for. I agree it would be quite fun to watch us bulldoze through a season in L1 ending up 1st with 100+ points like Newcastle and West ham did in the Championship over recent years. 

But with L1 seems like it is impossible to do that. As for one reason or another the big clubs which fall down to L1 are usually there due to really bad form, gross mismanagement or horrendous financial predicaments. Of which we tick a good number of boxes.

I can't remember a big team going down and romping back up again 1st time of asking. Did Wolves do it once? Then again I have rarely paid any attention to L1 unless I have an acca on ?.

I think if we do go down, we are going to go down playing well, and having a fantastic home record. It makes me feel slightly optimistic about a season in League One, because instead of teams who normally go down after a season of being beaten almost every week, we would be going down after a season of playing well, and fighting against injustice. I think the morale around the club will be much better than if we went down last season, without any points deduction. With the like of Williams, Thompson, Ebosele already showing they can cut it with the prem players at the top of the league, I think we will do well in league one.

How lucky that we stayed up though, otherwise this thread would be discussing about preparing for life in League 2

Yes we probably overpaid for him, but we were throwing money around at the time and the transfer fee and wages given to him are hardly his fault.

When you compare him to the likes of Johnny Russell or Jamie Ward, 2 "fan favourites" that played similar roles who are thought of fondly, his overall stats come out very similar. Worse than Ward but better than Russell, but then Ward played up front for a large part of his Derby career.

Then half the people on here still rate Jozwiak who has 1 goal and 3 assists in 54 games, it's clear that Lawrence is the scapegoat at the moment for the clubs issues.

Multiple different managers have picked him as first choice when available.

On top of this, his Mum died, he had addiction issues, and he has suffered from serious mental illness through all of his time here. Some of the comments on here about him are in poor taste.

Some "fans" at the moment - I can't even understand their viewpoint.

If someone ran up and pushed your wife off a cliff and killed her, would you turn round and blame her for standing too close to the edge, or the person that came out of nowhere are shoved her off.

I think the main issue with Wigan losing their appeal is that it came out that the new owner was contacting insolvency experts about administration before he had even taken over the club. 

You can hardly blame it on covid when he had planned on putting them in admin before he even bought them.

Boils down to 1 question:

If COVID hadn't happened would DCFC be in administration right now? Everything points towards no.

Doesn't matter how much of the mess we are in is down to financial mismanagement, if losses because of COVID contributed to pushing us over the edge then we wouldn't have been in admin without it.

COVID is a force majeure event. That's not up for debate.

Will the EFL try and argue admin was down to Mel stopping funding the club? Most likely that's the route they will take.

But it's a fact we have lost £20million+ due to COVID stopping revenue.

1 hour ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said:

How do you know it’s 4 times the amount??

Plus, with regards to “rubbish” statement...I have received and shown loyalty and have done for 25 years, ignoring advances on multiple occasions. Loyalty is a big thing for some and not others clearly!!
 

Now back to the point!!!

We as a club have invested in the lad, his advisors could’ve shown some loyalty to the club that has nurtured him, particularly in the current financial climate we find ourselves in. What is the point in our academy if the bigger clubs are going to spirit our up and comers away for peanuts!!!!

 

 

Didn't see anyone on here complaining about Bogle not showing loyalty to Swindon when we picked him up at 16. What about Jason Knight? We poached him at 16 from his club. He was there from the age of 4. He should have shown them loyalty and turned us down right? You can't complain that Liverpool are doing this to us, when we do it to countless other clubs multiple times a season.

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Trying to convince my girlfriend to buy me this for my birthday.

She seems to think a 3 week holiday in Mexico would be better value.