Van der MoodHoover Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 So what is your pick then @sage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 43 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: So what is your pick then @sage? Some of this is without much enthusiasm.... Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Trippier Rice JWP Bellingham Saka Kane Rashford Back up Pope James Dunk Maguire Shaw Kalvin-Phillips TAA Maddison Foden Toney Watkins That is based on trying to balance the side, i like a dribbler one side and a wide forward the other. I don't think Pickford or JWP and maybe Guehi are good enough but they are weak areas of the team. As Bellingham is probably our best player, I wouldn't want to reduce his potential by having to cover Maddison or Foden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Pickford; Walker, Stones, Guehi, Shaw; Rice, Bellingham, Maddison; Saka, Kane, Foden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Banks, Cohen, Wilson, Stiles, Charlton J, Moore, Hunt, Charlton R, Hurst, Ball, Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: Banks, Cohen, Wilson, Stiles, Charlton J, Moore, Hunt, Charlton R, Hurst, Ball, Peters Well you don’t get better than that, although some are now past their best. Others are just passed. Eddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 hours ago, sage said: Some of this is without much enthusiasm.... Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Trippier Rice JWP Bellingham Saka Kane Rashford Back up Pope James Dunk Maguire Shaw Kalvin-Phillips TAA Maddison Foden Toney Watkins That is based on trying to balance the side, i like a dribbler one side and a wide forward the other. I don't think Pickford or JWP and maybe Guehi are good enough but they are weak areas of the team. As Bellingham is probably our best player, I wouldn't want to reduce his potential by having to cover Maddison or Foden. I think on current form, a CB pair of Maguire and dunk would need 2 dms in front to offer more stability and protection against stronger teams. Thankfully in the Euros there don't seem to be many other than France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said: I think on current form, a CB pair of Maguire and dunk would need 2 dms in front to offer more stability and protection against stronger teams. Thankfully in the Euros there don't seem to be many other than France. Quite possibly. They are the squad players. You could make a case for Tomori but I don't see him play at club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 hours ago, sage said: Some of this is without much enthusiasm.... Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Trippier Rice JWP Bellingham Saka Kane Rashford Back up Pope James Dunk Maguire Shaw Kalvin-Phillips TAA Maddison Foden Toney Watkins That is based on trying to balance the side, i like a dribbler one side and a wide forward the other. I don't think Pickford or JWP and maybe Guehi are good enough but they are weak areas of the team. As Bellingham is probably our best player, I wouldn't want to reduce his potential by having to cover Maddison or Foden. For the 8 in a 433 I would have had mason mount of 2 or 3 seasons ago but he's totally lost his way. Maybe Gallagher will come good or one can come through from the youth. One thing Southgate has done is bring a few youngsters through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 If Southgate doesn’t fancy Gordon or Sterling then LW is a weak area too. Many people are either picking Foden out on the left which would limit his ability big time or picking Rashford who is hugely overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 21/11/2023 at 13:20, AndyinLiverpool said: He seems like a lightweight. When things are going poorly, it's like he's notplaying. We'd lose way more than we'd gain by moving the best midfielder in the world out of position to accommodate Maddison. He's light years behind Bellingham and Foden. My Spurs supporting mate explained it to me like this, "He might not get the goal or the assist, but he is always involved in whatever lead to a goal or assist. He ties it all together." Now, do I think we should move Bellingham to accommodate him? Absolutely not. On current form, Bellingham is among the best players on the planet. You play him in whichever position he is most comfortable and most likely to win you games, as he has been doing for Madrid. AndyinLiverpool and sage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 21/11/2023 at 13:20, AndyinLiverpool said: He seems like a lightweight. When things are going poorly, it's like he's notplaying. We'd lose way more than we'd gain by moving the best midfielder in the world out of position to accommodate Maddison. He's light years behind Bellingham and Foden. Fair point about Bellingham but I think the lightweight bit is harsh. Could of my mates are Leicester STH’s and I watched a bit of them on Sky last season just for the banter and if it wasn’t for him they’d have been dead and buried well before the season ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: If Southgate doesn’t fancy Gordon or Sterling then LW is a weak area too. Many people are either picking Foden out on the left which would limit his ability big time or picking Rashford who is hugely overrated. I had him as a "false 11". Well, if it's good enough for the 9s why should the other positions miss out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Pickford Walker Stones Dunk Lewis Trent A-A Rice Saka Bellingham Foden Kane Id happily have Maguire in this team, also Chilwell, Sterling, Maddison, Palmer, Grealish and Rashford at his best (he was excellent against Italy poor the other night as many others were) sheeponacid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 GK: Winston Churchill RB: Isambard Kingdom Brunel CB: Robert Baden-Powell CB: Hereward the Wake LB: Horatio Nelson (If Fit) CM: Bernard Law Montgomery CM: Rudyard Kipling AM: Francis Drake RW: Enoch Powell LW: Anthony Wedgwood Benn CF: Harold Godwinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 22/11/2023 at 14:59, Eddie said: Banks, Cohen, Wilson, Stiles, Charlton J, Moore, Hunt, Charlton R, Hurst, Ball, Peters It would be fascinating if AI/ChatGPT could accurately compare this team to modern day versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 13 hours ago, dabber said: It would be fascinating if AI/ChatGPT could accurately compare this team to modern day versions I'd wager that just about any modern English version would defeat Sir Alf's side, based upon fitness alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Chilwell Ward-Prowse Rice Bellingham Saka Kane Foden Will plead ignorance in respect to any better LBs, I like Trip' but need a left footer out there especially because I've not picked a wide left player. I've gone with Foden, who I think is going to suffer from the Scholes issue; in that I want him in and so will find a place to fit him in the side, but solving the left side issue reduces their effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Chopper said: Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Chilwell Ward-Prowse Rice Bellingham Saka Kane Foden Will plead ignorance in respect to any better LBs, I like Trip' but need a left footer out there especially because I've not picked a wide left player. I've gone with Foden, who I think is going to suffer from the Scholes issue; in that I want him in and so will find a place to fit him in the side, but solving the left side issue reduces their effectiveness. I thought about the Tripper issue, but i like having an overlapper on one side and an inverted full back/ midfielder on the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Eddie said: I'd wager that just about any modern English version would defeat Sir Alf's side, based upon fitness alone. To even it up, they could have the modern England version train 1960s style for a month..... 20 woodbines a day, pie and chips before a game, kickabouts on 6" of mud and a few pints after training. uttoxram75 and DarkFruitsRam7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 24/11/2023 at 14:37, Eddie said: I'd wager that just about any modern English version would defeat Sir Alf's side, based upon fitness alone. If Alf's players were subject to modern training and fitness regimes they'd be better. Gordon Banks, Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton were world class, the best in the world in their respective positions for most of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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