Guest Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 No surprises in my opinion, no pathway to first team for many and reduce the u21 wage bill to put as much of the overall budget into the first team. There is enough left over to field a team, it will be tough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, angieram said: The under 21s are decimated, as we knew they would be. I'd have liked to keep Kido Taylor-Hart, but we might not be able to afford him. I'm also pleased Carlos Richards has been offered new terms. Not really too surprised by any other names on that list. Genuine question to you and others that follow the academy, when you say as we knew they would be, is this the financial pressure or just they were not likely to make the first team? I’ve not been since we stopped playing at St George’s. So my source of what’s coming through tends to be here or limited highlights, but I’ve not seen any great performances that stick in my mind, bar a few 18’s games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Genuine question to you and others that follow the academy, when you say as we knew they would be, is this the financial pressure or just they were not likely to make the first team? Bit of both. None of the released were going to have an impact on first team squad this year and could be seen as blocking pathway for others. Whilst academy has no impact on FFP it has to be paid for and there has to be an u21 wage budget, reduce that and in theory you have more money to spend elsewhere. Edited May 10, 2023 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, angieram said: The under 21s are decimated, as we knew they would be. I'd have liked to keep Kido Taylor-Hart, but we might not be able to afford him. I'm also pleased Carlos Richards has been offered new terms. Not really too surprised by any other names on that list. I would say that retained list makes it look worse than it actually is. A few of the U18s have been playing in the U21s all season. We still have the following team (assuming those offered deals stay): Evans Oduroh Moore Bardell Moloney Hawkins DRobinson Fapetu Richards Oseni Nunn That still leaves Bates as an U21 and the other promising U18s such as JThompson, Cox, KRobinson, Davidson, DBrown and Wheeldon as options RoyMac5 and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 On 09/05/2023 at 16:36, ExiledinDerby said: I think it will look like GK: Club No. 2 (Thompson on Bench) Bardell Moore Cox Oduroh. Moloney Bates. Hawkins Fapetu Oseni or Nunn Brown Subs made up from u18s It will be another hard season at u21 level but will give the lads playing a lot of experience and things to learn. Almost the same …. 😉 Great minds and all that 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Ram Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 What happened to Aghatise? Thought he was quite highly regarded.. and hasn’t Cameron Ashia been scoring a few recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, ExiledinDerby said: Bit of both. None of the released were going to have an impact on first team squad this year and could be seen as blocking pathway for others. Whilst academy has no impact on FFP it has to be paid for and there has to be an u21 wage budget, reduce that and in theory you have more money to spend elsewhere. I think this is the key bit. We have a number of U18s who we want to fast track through to the U21s, so it makes sense to clear that path. Caerphilly Ram, Carnero and Zag zig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I think this is the key bit. We have a number of U18s who we want to fast track through to the U21s, so it makes sense to clear that path. Agreed. Robinson, Oduroh and Evans (possibly even Brown) can get moved onto the fringes of first team squad next year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Sad day for a lot of the youngsters - good luck in your futures bimmerman, InstaRam and Phoenix 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, ExiledinDerby said: Agreed. Robinson, Oduroh and Evans (possibly even Brown) can get moved onto the fringes of first team squad next year as well. How has Oduroh performed this season? Just going by highlights he often seemed to get caught out of position to me, but perhaps that's just me being harsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmoram1995 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, ExiledinDerby said: No surprises in my opinion, no pathway to first team for many and reduce the u21 wage bill to put as much of the overall budget into the first team. There is enough left over to field a team, it will be tough for them. Couldn’t we scrap the academy and do a Brentford a B team buy premier released players and gems from abroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Carnero said: How has Oduroh performed this season? Just going by highlights he often seemed to get caught out of position to me, but perhaps that's just me being harsh? He still has a lot to learn. Personally I agree his positioning is his weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Dan_Ram said: What happened to Aghatise? Thought he was quite highly regarded.. and hasn’t Cameron Ashia been scoring a few recently? Part of the (horribly ruthless) question of whether a youngster will make it is whether their body can take it. Aghatise is already injured so much, even before men's football, and I presume that's a significant factor here. Just like that injury prone but talented Kyle McAllister we gambled on from Scotland, but then released. I think it will have played a role in the decision over Jack Stretton too. Ghost of Clough, angieram and InstaRam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, simmoram1995 said: Couldn’t we scrap the academy and do a Brentford a B team buy premier released players and gems from abroad angieram, Caerphilly Ram and Bald Eagle's Barmy Army 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, simmoram1995 said: Couldn’t we scrap the academy and do a Brentford a B team buy premier released players and gems from abroad Its an option. It has pros and cons around this method. Even Brentford have reopened their academy though I think now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, simmoram1995 said: Couldn’t we scrap the academy and do a Brentford a B team buy premier released players and gems from abroad A big part of Brentford’s reasoning was how difficult it is for them to compete for local players with the big London clubs. We don’t really have that problem, we’ve got excellent facilities and a big local catchment area. Zag zig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Srg said: Anyone who’s watched more than I have report on any surprises there? The likes of Alfie Roberts, Harrison Foulkes, Will Grewal-Pollard, Harrison Solomon, Rhys Brailsford, Cian Kelly Caprani, Olamide Ibrahim, Osazee Aghatise, Connor Dixon and Bartosz Cybulski have been in the U18s and U21s for a number of seasons now. Sadly, if they haven’t broken into the first team squad (even the fringes) after the last two seasons in the Championships, and this season in League One, then you have to question if they ever will! Carnero, angieram, RoyMac5 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 As tough as the last 2 years have been for the academy, I do think will benefit the boys still there both mentally and physically. We could see some really push on now in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledinDerby said: Almost the same …. 😉 Great minds and all that 😂 Fair play - you weren't far off! 👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: Part of the (horribly ruthless) question of whether a youngster will make it is whether their body can take it. Aghatise is already injured so much, even before men's football, and I presume that's a significant factor here. Just like that injury prone but talented Kyle McAllister we gambled on from Scotland, but then released. I think it will have played a role in the decision over Jack Stretton too. Likewise Harrison Solomon. Carl Sagan, whiteroseram and RoyMac5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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