Reggie Greenwood Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c199vr0lw33o The cave dwellers can’t help themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 29 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c199vr0lw33o The cave dwellers can’t help themselves. Quote It is the latest sanction to be faced by the Midlands club relating to the fixture, which was marred by some ugly scenes at the final whistle. I'm guessing they're just referring to photographs of the fanbase. MarsdenRam, Comrade 86, Reggie Greenwood and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 I don't normally care much for such things, but I've had a few things pop up on my social media timeline as there's one of those Youtuber charity matches going on right now, and there's a "mystery player" that's a current pro playing for one of the teams. I'm almost certain from his looks and running style that this is Djed Spence (remember him?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Norman, Day, Shipley Ram and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 10 minutes ago, Day said: Turner, O Brien and Dennis. 37 million plus wages . Return- scout's dad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Motivated seller? Tight deadline? Not been contributing to the team? All factors pointing towards a bit of a hit on selling them...... Still, we know forest are fans of compliance with regulations.... Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Perhaps Marinakis could just stick the unwanted half the squad on a rickety old plane. After all, he's rather good at making inconveniences disappear, isn't he? Reggie Greenwood and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Must say it is enjoyable watching Forest fans on Twitter try and work out what loopholes they can exploit in place of selling players before the end of June. I’m sure they were sympathetic to Derby’s plight a couple of years ago. Crewton, Reggie Greenwood and RadioactiveWaste 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted Wednesday at 13:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:43 On 11/06/2024 at 13:41, Day said: £20m PROFIT above book value. It'll be approximately £28m if Mangala's transfer to Lyon doesn't go through by the end of the month. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted Wednesday at 14:48 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:48 Given the 4pt deduction last time, I’d be more tempted to stick two fingers up again, puts them in an unfair selling position that all clubs will know about. TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted Wednesday at 14:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:50 1 minute ago, Day said: Given the 4pt deduction last time, I’d be more tempted to stick two fingers up again, puts them in an unfair selling position that all clubs will know about. I might be getting this wrong, but wasn't the delayed sale of Brennan Johnson a mitigating factor in their point deduction? I imagine they'd be given some leniency again if clubs hold them to ransom this time. But still, hope they get taken to the cleaners. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted Wednesday at 14:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:58 6 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I might be getting this wrong, but wasn't the delayed sale of Brennan Johnson a mitigating factor in their point deduction? I imagine they'd be given some leniency again if clubs hold them to ransom this time. But still, hope they get taken to the cleaners. Maybe so but surely starts to wear a bit thin given Johnson is going to be included in this one and they still need the £20m DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted Wednesday at 15:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:20 17 minutes ago, nottingram said: Maybe so but surely starts to wear a bit thin given Johnson is going to be included in this one and they still need the £20m Imagine how much trouble they'd be in if they'd sold him when they should have. They'd have avoided the 'massive' 4 point deduction which didn't actually affect them, but would now be needing to sell players far in excess of what they have to at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted Wednesday at 15:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:28 36 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I might be getting this wrong, but wasn't the delayed sale of Brennan Johnson a mitigating factor in their point deduction? I imagine they'd be given some leniency again if clubs hold them to ransom this time. But still, hope they get taken to the cleaners. I'd have thought the opposite, they got it as a mitigation once, to do it again would suggest it's intentional and not a unique circumstance that means they would've complied otherwise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted Wednesday at 15:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:32 1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I'd have thought the opposite, they got it as a mitigation once, to do it again would suggest it's intentional and not a unique circumstance that means they would've complied otherwise..... I think they'd have an argument if it was obvious a team held them to ransom, giving them a choice of accepting an offer far below a player's value or violating FFP. Not sure if there was any suggestion of being deliberately held to ransom last time. Premier League clubs certainly weren't as conscious of the consequences of breaking FFP rules at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted Wednesday at 16:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:42 I knew we'd missed a trick : "We breached FFP because we couldn't give away Buttercup, Blackman and Marriott. Can we have some retrospective mitigation please Mr Birch?" Norman and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted Wednesday at 17:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:02 2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I might be getting this wrong, but wasn't the delayed sale of Brennan Johnson a mitigating factor in their point deduction? I imagine they'd be given some leniency again if clubs hold them to ransom this time. But still, hope they get taken to the cleaners. They tried to use it as mitigation, but it wasn't accepted by the committee in their hearing. They got 2 points back for admitting the breach (though they then tried to mitigate away their punishment with the Johnson factor) and cooperating with the investigation. DarkFruitsRam7 and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted Wednesday at 21:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:32 (edited) 6 hours ago, ram59 said: Imagine how much trouble they'd be in if they'd sold him when they should have. They'd have avoided the 'massive' 4 point deduction which didn't actually affect them, but would now be needing to sell players far in excess of what they have to at the moment. No difference. As P&S is judged over a 3 year period (4 during Covid), the Johnson sale would be included in the currnet P&S period whether part of the 22/23 or 23/24 season. The sale being included in the 23/24 season does help them in the 3 years to 2026 though. Edited Wednesday at 21:33 by Ghost of Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted Thursday at 09:11 Share Posted Thursday at 09:11 11 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: No difference. As P&S is judged over a 3 year period (4 during Covid), the Johnson sale would be included in the currnet P&S period whether part of the 22/23 or 23/24 season. The sale being included in the 23/24 season does help them in the 3 years to 2026 though. I stand corrected.👍 I keep forgetting that the headline transfer fee is split over the length of the contract when it comes to purchases. As you've previously pointed out money 'raised' from sales is only counted against the 'book value' of a player. So, am I correct in thinking that if they were to sell an expensive flop for a loss on his 'book value', this would actually count against them from an FFP point of view, even though money would actually be coming into the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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