Ram1988 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: That seems much better than recent attendances and is excellent for Sunday lunchtime on Sky. I got four of them for the wider Sagan family, wanting to show our support. Am trying to encourage various others to come and join us, but it's a bit like herding cats. I'm trying to presude couple of people to come along who don't normally but you are right it will really can be? Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Rammy03 and Nishfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Any chance of having buckets outside the ground as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Any chance of having buckets outside the ground as well. We need one of the supporter groups to speak to the administrators around fund raising including having buckets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Wistaston Ram said: No that is just the home fans. If Brum sell out we are looking at about 27K so far. Birmingham have sold their allocation Kathcairns and Wistaston Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Ram1988 said: We need one of the supporter groups to speak to the administrators around fund raising including having buckets. They've been asking continuously. It's fair to say the administrators are less than keen to go down this route. However, a guy from BAWT has been selected to work on ideas, this was last week. Waiting to hear what he comes up with now. Buckets are "small change" and fraught with collection and accountability issues. I think crowd funding is the way to go, but it has to be well organised and from a trusted source to get the really big bucks. I also think the administrators worry about potential strings attached to any large donations (the ones that would make a difference). They also worry what they would do with the money if it was more than they needed. I know, sounds like excuses to me too. Really these administrators are establishment, just like all the other big players. I really do think they need to start thinking outside the box a bit more. Football's in the state it is in because it's controlled by the same types of people all the time. Maharan, CBRammette, Kathcairns and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, angieram said: They've been asking continuously. It's fair to say the administrators are less than keen to go down this route. However, a guy from BAWT has been selected to work on ideas, this was last week. Waiting to hear what he comes up with now. Buckets are "small change" and fraught with collection and accountability issues. I think crowd funding is the way to go, but it has to be well organised and from a trusted source to get the really big bucks. I also think the administrators worry about potential strings attached to any large donations (the ones that would make a difference). They also worry what they would do with the money if it was more than they needed. I know, sounds like excuses to me too. Really these administrators are establishment, just like all the other big players. I really do think they need to start thinking outside the box a bit more. Football's in the state it is in because it's controlled by the same types of people all the time. I’ve never had any involvement in crowd funding but they don’t normally have the opportunity to “attach strings” do they? If they’re worried about much bigger contributions with conditions then surely they’d be stand alone and outside of a crowd funding project that the administrator could choose to decline. I’m one of the lucky folk that has a bit of spare cash (partly down to not having to pay for a season ticket for a year) and would happily chip in something like £50 - £100 (but don’t tell my wife ?) if it was properly set up etc. Hopefully, our celebrity fans might chip in a bigger amount but I would 100% not judge anyone that chose not to or we’re not able to make contribution or were only ably to put a small amount in. Kathcairns, angieram, Ram1988 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I’ve never had any involvement in crowd funding but they don’t normally have the opportunity to “attach strings” do they? If they’re worried about much bigger contributions with conditions then surely they’d be stand alone and outside of a crowd funding project that the administrator could choose to decline. I’m one of the lucky folk that has a bit of spare cash (partly down to not having to pay for a season ticket for a year) and would happily chip in something like £50 - £100 (but don’t tell my wife ?) if it was properly set up etc. Hopefully, our celebrity fans might chip in a bigger amount but I would 100% not judge anyone that chose not to or we’re not able to make contribution or were only ably to put a small amount in. Totally agree, Tamworth. It's such a win-win for me because everyone would give what they could, it would make us all feel like we're doing something positive to help. I think it would be easy to overcome any concerns the administrators have. Kathcairns, Nishfan, Crewton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I’ve never had any involvement in crowd funding but they don’t normally have the opportunity to “attach strings” do they? If they’re worried about much bigger contributions with conditions then surely they’d be stand alone and outside of a crowd funding project that the administrator could choose to decline. I’m one of the lucky folk that has a bit of spare cash (partly down to not having to pay for a season ticket for a year) and would happily chip in something like £50 - £100 (but don’t tell my wife ?) if it was properly set up etc. Hopefully, our celebrity fans might chip in a bigger amount but I would 100% not judge anyone that chose not to or we’re not able to make contribution or were only ably to put a small amount in. Likewise. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I’ve never had any involvement in crowd funding but they don’t normally have the opportunity to “attach strings” do they? If they’re worried about much bigger contributions with conditions then surely they’d be stand alone and outside of a crowd funding project that the administrator could choose to decline. I’m one of the lucky folk that has a bit of spare cash (partly down to not having to pay for a season ticket for a year) and would happily chip in something like £50 - £100 (but don’t tell my wife ?) if it was properly set up etc. Hopefully, our celebrity fans might chip in a bigger amount but I would 100% not judge anyone that chose not to or we’re not able to make contribution or were only ably to put a small amount in. 22 minutes ago, angieram said: Totally agree, Tamworth. It's such a win-win for me because everyone would give what they could, it would make us all feel like we're doing something positive to help. I think it would be easy to overcome any concerns the administrators have. I 100 % agree. I think it is a win win situation as well, if we raise more money than expected/need us to fund us to the end of the season surley this could be used to support us next season? Or maybe help us fund a loan signing or something. Kathcairns, angieram and Tamworthram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 It really is a no brainier, people that feel they can give £5 £10 £20 £100 or whatever to buy tickets for people that want to go but can’t afford it for whatever reason. Plenty of people with customer numbers ( Wembley) that don’t go regularly. Carry it on to the end of the season and sell out every home game which in turn creates a brilliant atmosphere which helps the players and it would show everyone how much we care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It's great to see the launch of a fundraising campaign aimed at businesses by the supporters groups this morning. I hope this is just the beginning and something can be done to enable giving by individuals soon. Nishfan and Kathcairns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 16 hours ago, Wistaston Ram said: No that is just the home fans. If Brum sell out we are looking at about 27K so far. It'll be the biggest crowd of the weekend, that's a big statement ? Wistaston Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistaston Ram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mihangel said: It'll be the biggest crowd of the weekend, that's a big statement ? I agree, would be fantastic to hit 30K for the first time this season. Rammy03, Premier ram and Kathcairns 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 And, spurred on by Red Dogs on Social Media obsessing on our attendances, I had a look back to when they were last in a financial crisis, after Nigel Doughty died in February 2012. At the first home game after his death was announced, v Watford, they got 21,712 (season average 21,970). That surprised me, because I had imagined the ground would have been packed to the rafters to pay tribute to a man who'd used so much of his own wealth in a vain attempt to reach the promised land. I've no idea what their excuse was for such a display of apathy. Their gates didn't even pick up much after Fawaz 'saved' them. It'd be nice to show them on TV what a 30,000+ crowd looks like, so keep pushing folks. Kathcairns, Rammy03 and eccles the ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestStandStartTheBounce Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 South west corner almost sold out. Just 4 tickets left. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, Crewton said: And, spurred on by Red Dogs on Social Media obsessing on our attendances, I had a look back to when they were last in a financial crisis, after Nigel Doughty died in February 2012. At the first home game after his death was announced, v Watford, they got 21,712 (season average 21,970). That surprised me, because I had imagined the ground would have been packed to the rafters to pay tribute to a man who'd used so much of his own wealth in a vain attempt to reach the promised land. I've no idea what their excuse was for such a display of apathy. Their gates didn't even pick up much after Fawaz 'saved' them. It'd be nice to show them on TV what a 30,000+ crowd looks like, so keep pushing folks. I don't know why they're joking about our crowds. Before this season I'm pretty sure we've had consistently higher attendances than them for several years Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I don't know why they're joking about our crowds. Before this season I'm pretty sure we've had consistently higher attendances than them for several years Derby have definitely had bigger crowds in general for a long time. Forest have averaged over 25k once since 2010 (excluding this season). Derby have averaged a minimum of 25k seven times since then! Crewton, Kathcairns and Rammy03 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishfan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I have subscribed to Ramstv audio for matches - £5 a month; I always listen to commentary inside the ground. at a fiver a month it’s got to be cheap way of helping whilst crowd funding isn’t in place? Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Just over 5,000 tickets left for Sunday and Birmingham have sold all their allocation too. Wonder if some neutrals will buy tickets, some to support a club in peril, some in case it's our last ever home game !! Edited January 24, 2022 by SamUltraRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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