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Substitutions when winning with 10 mins to go


belperram9

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On 15/08/2021 at 15:33, belperram9 said:

What are peoples views on this? Countless times I have watched us with a narrow lead with only 10 minutes to go and we make a substitution. Whether that be a defensive player coming on, or a like for like swap. I personally hate it. Bringing a defensive player on just invites pressure and encourages the opposition to attack. A like for like switch gives the oncoming sub little time to adapt and get into the swing of things. Likely they are feeling added pressure as well. It probably takes a player at least 10 minutes for a player to get a feel for the ball/tempo, but when they are bought on with 10 minutes to go then it is difficult for them. I think this is what happened to Joz yesterday. 
 

I personally feel it is only merited if there is an apparent injury/fatigue issue, or the lead is out of sight. It always seem when we are defending a narrow lead that these Subs are made and then it goes completely wrong. I’m not just saying it’s Derby, I’ve seen other teams do it as well. For me the team that has established the lead should see the game out, as they have had a feel for the game, the opposition, and the tempo. Rather than just chucking someone on and expecting them to immediately immerse themselves into how the game is being played. Added pressure and upsets the balance IMO?

Very key issue. Game deciding factor.

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On 15/08/2021 at 21:28, Sparkle said:

Morrison has only ever started 90 games in his entire first class carer or something like that and he is 28 and I suspect he hardly ever played the full games

Looks like he is enjoying it with us. Our version of Cantona, hopefully.

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12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Lol. It is tricky to tell at times, especially recently! #COYR ?

It is, I agree. There are that many Rooney out threads I find my self getting wound up with them all. I'm firmly with you in the "give Rooney a chance" brigade. 

I posted my thoughts on this somewhere a while back and stand firm on it. 

I like what he's trying to do. Would be better if he had players he wanted as opposed to those available in the bargain bucket.

Time will tell. I think he'll prove to be good.

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5 hours ago, Saul said:

It is, I agree. There are that many Rooney out threads I find my self getting wound up with them all. I'm firmly with you in the "give Rooney a chance" brigade. 

I posted my thoughts on this somewhere a while back and stand firm on it. 

I like what he's trying to do. Would be better if he had players he wanted as opposed to those available in the bargain bucket.

Time will tell. I think he'll prove to be good.

Only if we look back and think it was the best.

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17 hours ago, Chris_Martin said:

I didn't like the substitutions as it seemed to invite more pressure. Morrison had good control of the game and when he went off we couldn't really get out much. 

Having said that, it worked this time and Stearman headed everything away. I would much rather have a pro active manager who does things like this than how Rooney was last season at least. 

To be honest thought Morrison looked completely gassed when he got taken off, was getting less and less on the ball and would have got taken off a little sooner in a different situation. (Not criticism he's barely played so it's not going to be surprising he doesn't go the distance for a little while). 

Stearman was a sensible choice given Hull had decided to just pump into the box.

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The other thing is here that we are going to need all three centre backs to play games during the season. No way Davies and Jagielka will be bale to start every game. So Stearman got some more time to play in the team which should help going forwards.

Morrison was shot anyway so Rooney had to do something. This time it worked it might not next time. I was worried when Forsyth came on but I thought he did OK.

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1 hour ago, Beetle said:

The other thing is here that we are going to need all three centre backs to play games during the season. No way Davies and Jagielka will be bale to start every game. So Stearman got some more time to play in the team which should help going forwards.

Morrison was shot anyway so Rooney had to do something. This time it worked it might not next time. I was worried when Forsyth came on but I thought he did OK.

I know they're good but not sure they're quite Gareth Bale standard.?

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