sage Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Saul said: Me sarcastic? Surely not well played Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 15/08/2021 at 15:33, belperram9 said: What are peoples views on this? Countless times I have watched us with a narrow lead with only 10 minutes to go and we make a substitution. Whether that be a defensive player coming on, or a like for like swap. I personally hate it. Bringing a defensive player on just invites pressure and encourages the opposition to attack. A like for like switch gives the oncoming sub little time to adapt and get into the swing of things. Likely they are feeling added pressure as well. It probably takes a player at least 10 minutes for a player to get a feel for the ball/tempo, but when they are bought on with 10 minutes to go then it is difficult for them. I think this is what happened to Joz yesterday. I personally feel it is only merited if there is an apparent injury/fatigue issue, or the lead is out of sight. It always seem when we are defending a narrow lead that these Subs are made and then it goes completely wrong. I’m not just saying it’s Derby, I’ve seen other teams do it as well. For me the team that has established the lead should see the game out, as they have had a feel for the game, the opposition, and the tempo. Rather than just chucking someone on and expecting them to immediately immerse themselves into how the game is being played. Added pressure and upsets the balance IMO? Very key issue. Game deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 15/08/2021 at 21:28, Sparkle said: Morrison has only ever started 90 games in his entire first class carer or something like that and he is 28 and I suspect he hardly ever played the full games Looks like he is enjoying it with us. Our version of Cantona, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 If we had the same sort of options on the bench in Stearman & Forsyth on Saturday to bring on and help see the game out we would've come away with at least a draw vs Peterborough Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Saul said: Amazed he replaced Morrison with Stearman. I mean, what did Stearman do that justified his introduction. Bonkers This is a piss-take on the earlier thread comments isn't it, because Stearman made some very important interceptions? OohMartWright, Saul and Tamworthram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: This is a piss-take on the earlier thread comments isn't it, because Stearman made some very important interceptions? Yes Roy, can't help my self sometimes. Benjoram and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Saul said: Yes Roy, can't help my self sometimes. Lol. It is tricky to tell at times, especially recently! #COYR ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Rampage said: Looks like he is enjoying it with us. Our version of Cantona, hopefully. Let’s just hope it lasts the full season then hopefully we will be ok come the end of it. Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I think if they go from having 1 big ugly centre forward upfront to 2 big ugly strikers upfront when chasing our lead then it’s probably wise to throw on another big ugly Centee back to deal with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. It is tricky to tell at times, especially recently! #COYR ? It is, I agree. There are that many Rooney out threads I find my self getting wound up with them all. I'm firmly with you in the "give Rooney a chance" brigade. I posted my thoughts on this somewhere a while back and stand firm on it. I like what he's trying to do. Would be better if he had players he wanted as opposed to those available in the bargain bucket. Time will tell. I think he'll prove to be good. Premier ram and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Is this going to be the hindsight thread of the year I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Rampage said: Looks like he is enjoying it with us. Our version of Cantona, hopefully. Thank god Palace are in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Grumpy Git said: Thank god Palace are in the Prem. What the Kung Fu are you talking about. G G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, Rampage said: What the Kung Fu are you talking about. G G Morrison=Cantona Palace=Catona fan attack Hence no fan attack by Morrisona ? Am I right GG? Rampage and Grumpy Git 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Saul said: It is, I agree. There are that many Rooney out threads I find my self getting wound up with them all. I'm firmly with you in the "give Rooney a chance" brigade. I posted my thoughts on this somewhere a while back and stand firm on it. I like what he's trying to do. Would be better if he had players he wanted as opposed to those available in the bargain bucket. Time will tell. I think he'll prove to be good. Only if we look back and think it was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: I didn't like the substitutions as it seemed to invite more pressure. Morrison had good control of the game and when he went off we couldn't really get out much. Having said that, it worked this time and Stearman headed everything away. I would much rather have a pro active manager who does things like this than how Rooney was last season at least. To be honest thought Morrison looked completely gassed when he got taken off, was getting less and less on the ball and would have got taken off a little sooner in a different situation. (Not criticism he's barely played so it's not going to be surprising he doesn't go the distance for a little while). Stearman was a sensible choice given Hull had decided to just pump into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 The other thing is here that we are going to need all three centre backs to play games during the season. No way Davies and Jagielka will be bale to start every game. So Stearman got some more time to play in the team which should help going forwards. Morrison was shot anyway so Rooney had to do something. This time it worked it might not next time. I was worried when Forsyth came on but I thought he did OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Beetle said: The other thing is here that we are going to need all three centre backs to play games during the season. No way Davies and Jagielka will be bale to start every game. So Stearman got some more time to play in the team which should help going forwards. Morrison was shot anyway so Rooney had to do something. This time it worked it might not next time. I was worried when Forsyth came on but I thought he did OK. I know they're good but not sure they're quite Gareth Bale standard.? DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: Morrison=Cantona Palace=Catona fan attack Hence no fan attack by Morrisona ? Am I right GG? Bingo. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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