The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 It really is becoming a chore to be on here.... I'm obviously addicted as it goes against all my instincts to bother. Each time I log on I hope for a little positivity.. But alas no. Oh well, maybe next time. Gisby, angieram, paintingstandsatderby and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintingstandsatderby Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: But if we signed him he would get my support, like every other player but the point is I think it would be a bad signing, 2 completely different things. Are you suggesting we don’t debate potential signings on here ? ....and you didn't answer my question!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: It really is becoming a chore to be on here.... I'm obviously addicted as it goes against all my instincts to bother. Each time I log on I hope for a little positivity.. But alas no. Oh well, maybe next time. Start some positive topics then… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, paintingstandsatderby said: ....and you didn't answer my question!? I don’t think you quite see the flaws in your point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Start some positive topics then… No point. They all end up squashed by the self proclaimed realists. Any road, don't want to argue. I'll no doubt pop in tomorrow to cheer myself up. Edited July 16, 2021 by The Scarlet Pimpernel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: It really is becoming a chore to be on here.... I'm obviously addicted as it goes against all my instincts to bother. Each time I log on I hope for a little positivity.. But alas no. Oh well, maybe next time. Surely positivity has to come from the club first, to give us something to be positive about. But seeing as they are keeping their powder dry at the moment and 16 months of feel bad factor re Covid, a high percentage of posters are at a lower ebb than usual. (Me included) Chin up, nothing a couple of good performances won’t put right. ? Edited July 16, 2021 by Pearl Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintingstandsatderby Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: I don’t think you quite see the flaws in your point ? I think we'll just agree to disagree.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: No point. They all end up squashed by the self proclaimed realists. Any road, don't want to argue. I'll no doubt pop in tomorrow to cheer myself up. But why not engage, discuss, debate. Start off some new threads. Get a positive vibe going if that is how you feel…..you talk of negativity but then all you seem to do is moan about other peoples posts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Brammie Steve said: ... Once we can get Pride Park bursting at the seams with B4 and thousands of other Rams fans it will become a fortress again feared by visiting teams... Ah! Such happy times! ... remind me... which game was it, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Ah! Such happy times! ... remind me... which game was it, again? Mac 2 Jimbo Ram and Mucker1884 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Ah! Such happy times! ... remind me... which game was it, again? Rams 4 Brighton 1 was rather tasty… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Don’t get the crowd argument, surely all teams will benefit won’t they ? Not really, you only have to look at the league table any season, to see that some teams are better home than other teams in a similar position and some are worse. Quite often you'll see a midtable team's supporters moan that their home form is bottom six and their away form is top 6. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Rams 4 Brighton 1 was rather tasty… Sadly, I was watching in a bar in Nerja, Espania. Great night, but not as great as being in my usual seat! ? Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 If Morrison can succeed at his 12th club, if a 39 year old can still make a big impact, if Lawrence can avoid making a title of himself again, if CKR can become a 20 goal strikes at 34 years old. Nah, I'm genuinely just hoping we can avoid relegation in front of 15k crowds. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Guess we will see. Hopefully the bulk off the PP BOO off brigade will decide not to go. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) I think if we can develop a bit of a collective 'nobody likes us' siege mentality then then crowd can be a big positive. To do that though we need to be braced for a real struggle and then we can leap on any positives and not expect a weak squad to suddenly be a force in the division. No point being despondent at being thumped by the better sides because it will happen. Our squad is what it is but the crowd can lift the team in tight moments and we will need to win a respectable proportion of the games that could go either way. Edited July 16, 2021 by Alty_Ram LeedsCityRam and paintingstandsatderby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Our terrible, negative fans weren't allowed in the ground last season and couldn't criticise or even boo the poor fragile professional footballers. Those footballers went on to achieve the worst 2nd tier home record in terms of points taken and goals scored in the entire history of the club. As far as I'm concerned that means one of two things is true. Either our fans are great and you have nothing to worry about, or pressure from the fans is actually a decent motivating factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Anon said: Our terrible, negative fans weren't allowed in the ground last season and couldn't criticise or even boo the poor fragile professional footballers. Those footballers went on to achieve the worst 2nd tier home record in terms of points taken and goals scored in the entire history of the club. As far as I'm concerned that means one of two things is true. Either our fans are great and you have nothing to worry about, or pressure from the fans is actually a decent motivating factor. Who do you think should take responsibility for the debacle then, the players, Wazza, Mel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintingstandsatderby Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 I think it's about managing expectations. With our squad last year, especially after Bielik's injury and relying on ckr up front, we deserved to finish where we did. With more players leaving and us having to shop in the bargain basement, anyone expecting to be in anything other than a relegation battle this year needs to give their head a wobble in my opinion. I feel it's how the fans react to poor form and defeats that could be the difference in us surviving or not. A siege mentality will help and I struggle to understand how anyone can think slating a player before the season's even started or even once it has, can help the long term aim. I'm not talking about on here necessarily, although there are some, but more when I read comments posted on Facebook or Derby belly laugh articles. If people think that these players, particularly the youngsters, aren't on their phones for large chunks of the day (like most youngsters now days) and don't read what's written about them, again, I think they need to give their head a wobble. Alty_Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Who do you think should take responsibility for the debacle then, the players, Wazza, Mel? All three, but weighted in the following order of importance. Mel, Wayne, players. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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