DCFC Kicks Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 How have we ended up with this: Manager: Literally zero experience in any coaching role, let alone management, doesn't even have the coaching badges Assistant Manager: Literally zero experience in any coaching role, also possibly doesn't have the coaching badges First Team Coach: Only experienced as a goalkeeping coach (also debatable that the goalkeepers were better before he was GK Coach, and are now better after he left as GK Coach) , also probably doesn't even have the badges. Steve McClaren: Past Derby manager, highly experienced and well regarded coach - sitting in the stands watching. Darren Wassall: Past Derby manager, still inexperience, but still has more than the other 3 put together - with the academy (which may not even exist in it's same capacity if we go down) I know we don't know the full behind the scenes details, but Mel is in serious risk of going down in infamy as one of the worst owners ever at this club if we go down. After investing so much of his own money. Are his hands tied with us in a seemingly never ending limbo of takeovers? With his obvious love for the club this make it so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, DCFClks said: How have we ended up with this: Manager: Literally zero experience in any coaching role, let alone management, doesn't even have the coaching badges Assistant Manager: Literally zero experience in any coaching role, also possibly doesn't have the coaching badges First Team Coach: Only experienced as a goalkeeping coach (also debatable that the goalkeepers were better before he was GK Coach, and are now better after he left as GK Coach) , also probably doesn't even have the badges. Steve McClaren: Past Derby manager, highly experienced and well regarded coach - sitting in the stands watching. Darren Wassall: Past Derby manager, still inexperience, but still has more than the other 3 put together - with the academy (which may not even exist in it's same capacity if we go down) I know we don't know the full behind the scenes details, but Mel is in serious risk of going down in infamy as one of the worst owners ever at this club if we go down. After investing so much of his own money. Are his hands tied with us in a seemingly never ending limbo of takeovers? With his obvious love for the club this make it so sad. Too much effort trying to be flash instead of just using the available tools......We should never have sacked Mac and wassell was the victim of tremendous disloyalty by Mel when he was also replaced despite a excellent if brief tenure....again to bring in another poo celebrity manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Ever since Rooney arrived players have been jumping ship. Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik but chose Millwall over Rams. He joined Malone and Bennett. Bogle and Lowe , happy to leave. Johnson, Marriet,Holmes , Whittaker all left. Wisdom and Waghorn will leave this summer. Lawrence will run down his last year. And yet Mel said players would flock to be with Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Poor tenure as owner has bought all of this on (in my opinion). piling loads of cash attempting to buy promotion was a gamble which did not pay off. You are then in the constraints of FFP. Poor choices of manager/coaches then sacking after a short term. Cocu was/is a good coach (IN THE RIGHT LEAGUE) not for the championship. There has been very little investment in new players since Lampard and he only achieved on the back of loan players. I agree, Mel's heart might be in the right place but it was misguided in the running of the club. He is now trying to sell to what seems to be anyone who has a cheque book, without regard for the future. On top of that there is now the very real threat of relegation, because of all the bottom four, we seem to be the ones with our heads down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: Ever since Rooney arrived players have been jumping ship. Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik but chose Millwall over Rams. He joined Malone and Bennett. Bogle and Lowe , happy to leave. Johnson, Marriet,Holmes , Whittaker all left. Wisdom and Waghorn will leave this summer. Lawrence will run down his last year. And yet Mel said players would flock to be with Rooney. I think a lot of those departures were financial. They have to be. Although the Holmes one did confuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I think a lot of those departures were financial. They have to be. Although the Holmes one did confuse me. They were, to pay the wages to get us through until the season ends because had we not you can guess what would have happened and we would already be down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The man at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Finch said: The man at the top. Impossible to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Finch said: The man at the top. Yep, Mel has to take responsibility for the fact we look clueless and abysmal culminating in that poo we saw last night. Nothing to do with the Manager whatsoever, why should he take any responsibility for what goes on on the pitch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Impossible to disagree. We agree on one thing it seems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Yep, Mel has to take responsibility for the fact we look clueless and abysmal culminating in that poo we saw last night. Nothing to do with the Manager whatsoever, why should he take any responsibility for what goes on on the pitch..... But the ultimate responsibility is on Mel. Rooney has been just another big mistake. They all need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, BondJovi said: But the ultimate responsibility is on Mel. Rooney has been just another big mistake. They all need to go. Mel must take responsibility for the mistake of appointing Wazza but surely what goes on on the pitch has to be the responsibility of the Manager, otherwise what responsibility has Wazza? Must be a dream job if you are the Manager of a football club but without having to worry about how the players perform and the results....might apply myself ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Mel must take responsibility for the mistake of appointing Wazza but surely what goes on on the pitch has to be the responsibility of the Manager, otherwise what responsibility has Wazza? Must be a dream job if you are the Manager of a football club but without having to worry about how the players perform and the results....might apply myself ? I don't disagree. Rooney has to go for the mess on the pitch. Mel has created the mess off the pitch. Another post I explained why I believe we should never have appointed Rooney, even signed him. He has proved to be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, BondJovi said: I don't disagree. Rooney has to go for the mess on the pitch. Mel has created the mess off the pitch. Another post I explained why I believe we should never have appointed Rooney, even signed him. He has proved to be a disaster. Agree, wish he had never set foot in the club.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Morris has been a disaster for the club. As I've said before in my personal opinion he has been the worst owner we've ever had bar the crooks who were running us in the early 2000's. Even Maxwell didn't leave us in this much of a mess. Morris' love of a celebrity manager regardless of their coaching experience, his interference in teams affairs, sacking a manager when we were 4th in the table, sacking a manager who had dragged us from the bottom three into playoff contention, signing off on signings like Blackman, Anya etc - everything he has touched has turned to dust. He might point to the academy as his legacy but to be honest we had better quality players coming through the academy well before he arrived and quite frankly I don't see any of the current crop of youngsters being anything special going forward. All I hope now is that whatever division we are in next season we start it with a properly experienced manager who is given time to develop the team, a board that favours sensible low key squad investment/rebuilding over ludicrously overpriced show pony signings and that as a football club we just show some class, dignity and humility because I'm sick to death of the Mel Morris era Derby County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Ever since Rooney arrived players have been jumping ship. Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik but chose Millwall over Rams. He joined Malone and Bennett. Bogle and Lowe , happy to leave. Johnson, Marriet,Holmes , Whittaker all left. Wisdom and Waghorn will leave this summer. Lawrence will run down his last year. And yet Mel said players would flock to be with Rooney. “Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik” I apologise but I stopped reading after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jayram said: Morris has been a disaster for the club. As I've said before in my personal opinion he has been the worst owner we've ever had bar the crooks who were running us in the early 2000's. Even Maxwell didn't leave us in this much of a mess. Morris' love of a celebrity manager regardless of their coaching experience, his interference in teams affairs, sacking a manager when we were 4th in the table, sacking a manager who had dragged us from the bottom three into playoff contention, signing off on signings like Blackman, Anya etc - everything he has touched has turned to dust. He might point to the academy as his legacy but to be honest we had better quality players coming through the academy well before he arrived and quite frankly I don't see any of the current crop of youngsters being anything special going forward. All I hope now is that whatever division we are in next season we start it with a properly experienced manager who is given time to develop the team, a board that favours sensible low key squad investment/rebuilding over ludicrously overpriced show pony signings and that as a football club we just show some class, dignity and humility because I'm sick to death of the Mel Morris era Derby County. Agree with most of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, BondJovi said: We agree on one thing it seems! Probably the most important thing tbh. #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 hours ago, DCFClks said: How have we ended up with this: Manager: Literally zero experience in any coaching role, let alone management, doesn't even have the coaching badges Assistant Manager: Literally zero experience in any coaching role, also possibly doesn't have the coaching badges First Team Coach: Only experienced as a goalkeeping coach (also debatable that the goalkeepers were better before he was GK Coach, and are now better after he left as GK Coach) , also probably doesn't even have the badges. Steve McClaren: Past Derby manager, highly experienced and well regarded coach - sitting in the stands watching. Darren Wassall: Past Derby manager, still inexperience, but still has more than the other 3 put together - with the academy (which may not even exist in it's same capacity if we go down) I know we don't know the full behind the scenes details, but Mel is in serious risk of going down in infamy as one of the worst owners ever at this club if we go down. After investing so much of his own money. Are his hands tied with us in a seemingly never ending limbo of takeovers? With his obvious love for the club this make it so sad. I would take Wassall with Macca as Assistant in a heartbeat - Mind you I was all for something like that before we brought Lampard in too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, Finch said: The man at the top. The sooner he buggers off for good, the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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