GboroRam Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Mel's ultimately the man who the buck stops with. Rooney isn't the man to sort this out. If we stay up it will be because of luck rather than judgement. Thank god Wednesday got a points deduction, that's all I can think. Gives us a straw to clutch at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Bobby zamora. But no, seriously... Its 's so incredibly disappointing to see us in this position. But like most have already said. It starts and stops with the owner. It's best for him and the club that he goes. If we get relegated his tenure will go down in dcfc history as easily one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, Old Spalding Ram said: “Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik” I apologise but I stopped reading after that. 46 minutes ago, Old Spalding Ram said: “Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik” I apologise but I stopped reading after that. My point was , that he CHOSE , Millwall over us, which surprised me. However he was on the winning side at our place, and did put himself about . Something we are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Rams Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Old Spalding Ram said: “Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik” I apologise but I stopped reading after that. You're missing the point..the poster didn't say he would have been as good but would have certainly performed better than who we are left with.He seems to be doing OK where he's gone.Keiran Dowell was rubbish here according to many on here..he's now doing fine for a team 10 points clear at the top and are going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Ever since Rooney arrived players have been jumping ship. Evan’s would have been a steady replacement for Beilik but chose Millwall over Rams. He joined Malone and Bennett. Bogle and Lowe , happy to leave. Johnson, Marriet,Holmes , Whittaker all left. Wisdom and Waghorn will leave this summer. Lawrence will run down his last year. And yet Mel said players would flock to be with Rooney. Was it not more a case that we decided to sell them to help our precarious and well known about financial position and get them off the wage bill as opposed to them running to the exit door ? sounds a bit daily Mail sensationalist when u say it like u did lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: My point was , that he CHOSE , Millwall over us, which surprised me. However he was on the winning side at our place, and did put himself about . Something we are missing. or he just chose to play, rather than sit on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I am just wondering who is taking the decisions at Derby at the moment, Mel or Alonso? If Mel wanted to put Wazza on gardening leave and put Mac in charge for the remaining 3 games, perhaps with some input from Wassall too, which wouldn’t surprise me, could he do that or would it need to be a joint decision with Alonso??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 In my opinion the decline began several seasons ago. In the era of Rowatt we lost Hughes, a player of real talent and quality. We sold Vydra, a top championship goal scorer and I felt at the time it was the wrong decision. The season under Lampard was great but views long term it did absolutely nothing for us and apart from the loan players his signings did little to improve the squad. Cocu had little time to prepare and inherited a group of players who didn't have the ability to play how he wanted and Rooney came in when what we really needed at the stage was an experienced championship manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwash_Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Keogh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: I am just wondering who is taking the decisions at Derby at the moment, Mel or Alonso? If Mel wanted to put Wazza on gardening leave and put Mac in charge for the remaining 3 games, perhaps with some input from Wassall too, which wouldn’t surprise me, could he do that or would it need to be a joint decision with Alonso??? No ones making the decisions, this is why we're stuck with Rooney. Is Mel going to pay to sack Rooney with a new owner coming in at any moment? No. No ones been making decisions for 6 months +, apart from when BZI made the decision to hire Rooney! That's why we're in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, DCFClks said: No ones making the decisions, this is why we're stuck with Rooney. Is Mel going to pay to sack Rooney with a new owner coming in at any moment? No. No ones been making decisions for 6 months +, apart from when BZI made the decision to hire Rooney! That's why we're in this mess. Did BZI make the decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Did BZI make the decision? The announcement said it was a joint decision. Which basically means it was BZI's decision as it was planed Mel would be leaving at any moment, so the decision wouldn't affect him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, DCFClks said: The announcement said it was a joint decision. Which basically means it was BZI's decision as it was planed Mel would be leaving at any moment, so the decision wouldn't affect him at all. Total shambles on and off the pitch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The cult of celebrity had swallowed up the owner and let’s be honest many of the fans. Its nice to have something to cheer when these appointments are made, but unless we’re incredibly lucky it goes belly up as there is no substance behind the name...........it’s the equivalent of peeing your pants on a cold day for warmth. The ego and arrogance need to be dropped for the club to stabilise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ramarena said: The cult of celebrity had swallowed up the owner and let’s be honest many of the fans. You could argue every managerial appointment Mel's made except Rowett has been a celebrity/glamour appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, DCFClks said: You could argue every managerial appointment Mel's made except Rowett has been a celebrity/glamour appointment. Not sure Pearson or Mac were, but the rest yes, Lampard and Rooney full on celebrities. Cocu was footballing royalty and Clement had that link to Real Madrid and flash friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Not sure Pearson or Mac were, but the rest yes, Lampard and Rooney full on celebrities. Cocu was footballing royalty and Clement had that link to Real Madrid and flash friends. as a former England manager, I'd say Mac is somewhat celebrity status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Not sure Pearson or Mac were, but the rest yes, Lampard and Rooney full on celebrities. Cocu was footballing royalty and Clement had that link to Real Madrid and flash friends. Mac had the England link. Pearson had the Leicester champions link. With each passing appointment, it's become more and more of a celebrity appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, Bwash_Ram said: Keogh ? I agree signing him was a mistake ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: as a former England manager, I'd say Mac is somewhat celebrity status. 14 minutes ago, DCFClks said: Mac had the England link. Pearson had the Leicester champions link. With each passing appointment, it's become more and more of a celebrity appointment. Yes there’s the England link with Mac. But if you remember his stock was incredibly low when we took him on, he was part time coaching at QPR to try and get back in the game after bad spells at Wolfsburg, Forest and Twente (second time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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