Your England 23 man squad for the Euros

[Eddie]

On 02/04/2021 at 06:45, Van der MoodHoover said:

They aren't a nation, so by definition cannot have a national team.

What was it that Frank Zappa said?

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You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer.

So far, after extensive research, I can find no evidence of a national airline, although there is some anecdotal evidence of a brewpub which produced a few litres of an APA clone in the basement

So taking the 4 qualifying points in order, 

1. Perhaps, at one time
2. Nope
3. Laughable
4. HMS Tireless spent a week there in 2004

The people responsible for the FA's "Fit and proper persons" test might be able to make a case for Gibraltar, but that's about it.

[Parsnip]

50 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

Lets go back to basics, what is the nationality of welsh, Scottish and northern Ireland players. At the olympics, sportsmen and women, what is the flag they follow?

For all i care (as Johnny foreigner) There could even be a Devon and Cornwall team, i just think when it comes to winning trophies, it might help. You dont see it that way and i am sure the same for vast majority of fans, that's fair enough. for the record England, are probably short of a decent keeper and centre half to get there at the Euros. I can't think of any Alan Hansen and Pat Jennings to help either.

Well I didn't realise you weren't British but now you've told me I can begin to understand why you are asking the question. So I'll answer it properly.

Forget the Olympics. Football is different.

Ok imagine someone suggests an East Midlands team instead of Derby/Forest and Leicester to give us more chance of success. Would we accept that? How would it look? I'd imagine 11 Leicester players. We'd basically be supporting Leicester. And Derby would cease to exist. The way Derby fans & players would feel about that is how Scottish fans and players would feel about Britain.

[Day]

9 hours ago, Beetroot said:

Well I didn't realise you weren't British but now you've told me I can begin to understand why you are asking the question. So I'll answer it properly.

Forget the Olympics. Football is different.

Ok imagine someone suggests an East Midlands team instead of Derby/Forest and Leicester to give us more chance of success. Would we accept that? How would it look? I'd imagine 11 Leicester players. We'd basically be supporting Leicester. And Derby would cease to exist. The way Derby fans & players would feel about that is how Scottish fans and players would feel about Britain.

You don’t sound overly keen on the idea?

[Andicis]

Henderson, Pope, Shaw, Chillwell, Saka, Alexander-Arnold, James, Maguire, Stones, Tomori, Mount, Foden, Rice, Bellingham, Grealish, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane, Calvert-Lewin, Watkins.

The starting XI I'd go for is:

Henderson,

James, Stones, Maguire, Chillwell,

Mount, Bellingham, Grealish,

Rashford, Kane, Sterling. 

I think we lack quality defenders, but are strong in attacking areas, so we should play to this strength. 

[Van der MoodHoover]

1 hour ago, Andicis said:

Henderson, Pope, Shaw, Chillwell, Saka, Alexander-Arnold, James, Maguire, Stones, Tomori, Mount, Foden, Rice, Bellingham, Grealish, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane, Calvert-Lewin, Watkins.

The starting XI I'd go for is:

Henderson,

James, Stones, Maguire, Chillwell,

Mount, Bellingham, Grealish,

Rashford, Kane, Sterling. 

I think we lack quality defenders, but are strong in attacking areas, so we should play to this strength. 

Sounds attractive but no way Southgate will put out a starting xi without 2 dms. 

[Andicis]

1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Sounds attractive but no way Southgate will put out a starting xi without 2 dms. 

Sadly I think you're right. I really don't rate Rice or Phillips much, Bellingham seems better than both already to me. I know he'll pick 2 DMs though. 

[Ghost of Clough]

13 hours ago, Andicis said:

Henderson, Pope, Shaw, Chillwell, Saka, Alexander-Arnold, James, Maguire, Stones, Tomori, Mount, Foden, Rice, Bellingham, Grealish, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane, Calvert-Lewin, Watkins.

The starting XI I'd go for is:

Henderson,

James, Stones, Maguire, Chillwell,

Mount, Bellingham, Grealish,

Rashford, Kane, Sterling. 

I think we lack quality defenders, but are strong in attacking areas, so we should play to this strength. 

Your squad list looks a little short. Particularly at GK.

[Marriot Ram99]

Not so sure about the squad but starting lineup wise it would be:

              Pope

Walker Stones Maguire Shaw 

              Henderson 

          Mount      Bellingham 

    Rashford Kane  Sterling 

Possibly Foden over Bellingham but  with the physicality he has and box to box style he's probably better suited to the team. Not that he will play more than 5 minutes mind, Southgate is not one for risks. 

The keeper spot is problematic wouldn't trust any of them tbh. 

[WhiteHorseRam]

My view of England's performance  in any major tournament, summed up by the Bard himself - 

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

 

I think what old Will meant to say is that we will get out of the group, then run into a brick wall of either Belgium or France.

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by WhiteHorseRam
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[sage]

On 04/04/2021 at 22:07, Van der MoodHoover said:

Sounds attractive but no way Southgate will put out a starting xi without 2 dms. 

One would hope he plays at least one. Reminds me of Tommy Doc and his 3 Van Goghs

[Van der MoodHoover]

36 minutes ago, sage said:

One would hope he plays at least one. Reminds me of Tommy Doc and his 3 Van Goghs

Rioch, Masson and Gerry Daly wasn't it...aaah the halcyon days of 1978.....

[sage]

7 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Rioch, Masson and Gerry Daly wasn't it...aaah the halcyon days of 1978.....

Yes. Gerald Mortimer said 'they are very fine players, but who is going to win the ball back?'

[Van der MoodHoover]

Jude Bellingham was excellent last night for dortmund. Really outshone the much talked about Haaland. 

Of course, this is after the emergence of articles talking up Jesse lingards chances based on form for West ham. 

Southgate with too many attackers.....he'll panic and unearth a few more DMs... ?

[Ghost of Clough]

Once we ban players from the 'Big 6':

Pickford, Pope, Johnstone, Cash, Walker-Peters, Justin, Targett, Keane, Mings, Ayling, Tarkowski, Rice, Phillips, Ward-Prowse, Bellingham, Maddison, Shelvey, Sancho, Grealish, Barnes, Bowen, Calvert-Lewin, Watkins

[rynny]

 

 

[Ghost of Clough]

On 01/04/2021 at 12:56, Ghost of Clough said:

I'd only pick those who are playing regularly - the likes of Dean Henderson miss out.

Pickford, Johnstone, Pope
James, Alexander-Arnold, Chillwell, Shaw, Stones, Maguire, Keane, Tomori
Rice, Henderson, Mount, Foden, Maddison, Ward-Prowse
Grealish, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford
Kane, Watkins

With the latest news...

I'd go with this, but with the addition of Walker, Lingard and Calvert-Lewin. Henderson also replaces Pope, as he's now regularly playing.

Still no space for Trippier, Phillips, Bellingham, Bamford, etc...

[IlsonDerby]

On 01/04/2021 at 23:16, Beetroot said:

I realised when watching the england game the other night that I no longer have any idea who our best 23 international players are?!

I'm pretty sure Jesse Lingard shouldn't be one of them though.

The most inform player in the premier league right now??? 

[IlsonDerby]

3 keepers 

Henderson, Pope, T. rex arms 

5 full backs 

James, TAA, Chilwell, Shaw, Walker 

4 centre backs 

Maguire, Stones, Mings, Tomori

7 midfielders 

Henderson, Rice, Bellingham, Phillips, Sancho, Foden, Sterling, Grealish

3 strikers 

Kane, Watkins, Rashford 

 

It is tough to choose a 23. Perhaps switch out Watkins for DCL. 
 

With a 26 man squad id probably include Dier, Maddison and Saka. 

[Van der MoodHoover]

9 hours ago, IlsonDerby said:

3 keepers 

Henderson, Pope, T. rex arms 

5 full backs 

James, TAA, Chilwell, Shaw, Walker 

4 centre backs 

Maguire, Stones, Mings, Tomori

7 midfielders 

Henderson, Rice, Bellingham, Phillips, Sancho, Foden, Sterling, Grealish

3 strikers 

Kane, Watkins, Rashford 

 

It is tough to choose a 23. Perhaps switch out Watkins for DCL. 
 

With a 26 man squad id probably include Dier, Maddison and Saka. 

Looks too light in striker dept. Need one or two as cover for kane and one of the others. Sterling is mainly a striker, but maybe add greenwood and Abraham? 

[abertawe_ram]

Pickford, Pope, Henderson

James, TAA, Walker, Chillwell, Shaw

Maguire, Stones, Tomori, Mings

Rice, Henderson (if not fit then Phillips), JWP, Bellingham

Foden, Mount, Grealish, Sancho, Sterling, Lingard

Kane, Rashford, DCL, Ings (if not fit then Watkins)

 

                 PICKFORD

TAA   STONES   MAGUIRE   SHAW

                      RICE

            FODEN      MOUNT

RASHFORD                     STERLING

                       KANE