GboroRam Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, angieram said: I like @Eddie's theory better! To be fair my mother had both and had no reaction at all. And she's 79. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Sister had the AZ vaccine, floored her. Mum had the Pfizer, but of a sore arm but that’s it. Friend had the Pfizer and absolutely no reaction or aches and pains. Would be nice to have the choice, can understand why we’re not, just would be nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: I heard, if you've had Covid, the first vaccination is enough to spike a reaction because of the volume of antibodies in your system, and the second won't make much difference. If you haven't had Covid, the first isn't really that much but the second pushes it up and you're more likely to have a bit of a reaction. Dunno if it's true or not. Anecdotal evidence alert... I've been told that the Pfizer jab has a lower first dose reaction and a higher second dose reaction, with the opposite being true for AZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Just now, Eddie said: Anecdotal evidence alert... I've been told that the Pfizer jab has a lower first dose reaction and a higher second dose reaction, with the opposite being true for AZ. I'll let you know about the first bit on Monday. Eddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 What's the SP on mixing jabs? Allowed or not? Thought I heard a while ago that it was a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: What's the SP on mixing jabs? Allowed or not? Thought I heard a while ago that it was a good thing. UK could give people a different vaccine for booster dose in autumn under plans being considered by ministers The Government is unlikely to approve vaccine mixing before the rollout is complete but may give it the green light this autumn https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk-could-give-people-different-vaccine-booster-dose-autumn-under-ministers-plans-953943 Angry Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I had the AZ and nothing. Didn't stop me faking exhaustion mind to get out of the chores for a few days..... ? GB SPORTS, Carnero, Day and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: What's the SP on mixing jabs? Allowed or not? Thought I heard a while ago that it was a good thing. There is a trial (or more accurately, a number of trials) ongoing whose aim is to verify just that. This is because there is some historical evidence regarding Ebola that such an approach can be beneficial. However, the results of the trial will not be for some time. This (pick n mix) approach has to be fully evaluated urgently because of the type of logistical and political problems we have seen in the last few weeks. Angry Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 The next lot of old buggers can get their jabs booked now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: I heard, if you've had Covid, the first vaccination is enough to spike a reaction be cause of the volume of antibodies in your system, and the second won't make much difference. If you haven't had Covid, the first isn't really that much but the second pushes it up and you're more likely to have a bit of a reaction. Dunno if it's true or not. it was for me. Nothing on the first, the second flu like for 36 hours, myalgia for a few weeks still not 100% but very minor now. The procedure in Gib was second within 3 weeks and I think that made a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 hours ago, David said: Sister had the AZ vaccine, floored her. Mum had the Pfizer, but of a sore arm but that’s it. Friend had the Pfizer and absolutely no reaction or aches and pains. Would be nice to have the choice, can understand why we’re not, just would be nice though. My parents and grandparents all had AZ, no reaction from any of them ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 How is it going for "no lockdown Sweden" @TexasRam? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/13/sweden-has-highest-new-covid-cases-per-person-in-europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: How is it going for "no lockdown Sweden" @TexasRam? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/13/sweden-has-highest-new-covid-cases-per-person-in-europe Doesn’t really matter, still less deaths than us and had their freedom throughout, you’d have taken that would you? I would of ps no lockdown, no mask, no social distancing Texas is doing ok, still no explanations from the ITK cult of Covid army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Shock, horror ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Shock, horror ? I thought we'd gone over this before? Covid ravages some people's lungs, and a serious number of people end up dying of pneumonia caused by the effects of Covid. That's why the "died with Covid" figure is still relevant. Look at excess deaths if you want to get a feel for the true effect. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I thought we'd gone over this before? Covid ravages some people's lungs, and a serious number of people end up dying of pneumonia caused by the effects of Covid. That's why the "died with Covid" figure is still relevant. Look at excess deaths if you want to get a feel for the true effect. Absolute twaddle, data manipulated, over stated, mass hysteria ridden and most over hype event of this generation and generations passed. Thanks god it’s nearly done and we can get out life’s back to normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I thought we'd gone over this before? Covid ravages some people's lungs, and a serious number of people end up dying of pneumonia caused by the effects of Covid. That's why the "died with Covid" figure is still relevant. Look at excess deaths if you want to get a feel for the true effect. I'd like to see a proper breakdown of stats before I pass judgement tbh. What percentage of people that died with covid had pneumonia vs those that died with heart disease or cancer etc. But tbh, I'm tired of it all now and don't really care anymore - just looking forwards to some sunny weather and getting back to 'normal'. Edited April 14, 2021 by maxjam Andicis and Carnero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: How is it going for "no lockdown Sweden" @TexasRam? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/13/sweden-has-highest-new-covid-cases-per-person-in-europe Surely the penultimate paragraph tells you what you need to know? Regardless of lockdowns some places in the world were always going to get hit more/less severe than others due to a variety of factors. Which is why despite Biden calling out the Texas and Florida Governors for their 'Neanderthal thinking' their infection rates are plummeting despite having fully reopened whilst other states in the US are suffering despite being in lockdown ? Carnero and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, maxjam said: I like to see a proper breakdown of stats before I pass judgement tbh. What percentage of people that died with covid had pneumonia vs those that died with heart disease or cancer etc. But tbh, I'm tired of it all now and don't really care anymore - just looking forwards to some sunny weather and getting back to 'normal'. Me too! just watch out for those pesky variants out there. The UK one has proved to be no more harmful so now guess what, the South African one is back on the radar getting scientists worried. All scaremongering BS, life’s getting back to normal unfortunately that seems to spite some people who have been given recent powers & status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Me too! just watch out for those pesky variants out there. The UK one has proved to be no more harmful so now guess what, the South African one is back on the radar getting scientists worried. All scaremongering BS, life’s getting back to normal unfortunately that seems to spite some people who have been given recent powers & status. Eh? I don't believe that for a second. Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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