Mckram Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just looking at our results this year and found the following: - Won 7 and not conceded a goal in any of these. - Lost 12 and only scored in 1 of these (Luton). - Drawn 7 with 2 clean sheets and 5 being 1-1 (we scored first in all 5). So every game we’ve scored first (12 games) we’ve not lost and every game we’ve conceded first (12 games) we’ve lost. Key to the rest of the season, don’t concede first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mckram said: Just looking at our results this year and found the following: - Won 7 and not conceded a goal in any of these. - Lost 12 and only scored in 1 of these (Luton). - Drawn 7 with 2 clean sheets and 5 being 1-1 (we scored first in all 5). So every game we’ve scored first (12 games) we’ve not lost and every game we’ve conceded first (12 games) we’ve lost. Key to the rest of the season, don’t concede first! Football management is so easy when you put things like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mckram Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Football management is so easy when you put things like that! Stats have a funny way of making it look easy. Pretty impressive that we’re the only team to not have conceded when winning in the whole league though...although it might say more about how few wins we’ve had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mckram said: Stats have a funny way of making it look easy. Pretty impressive that we’re the only team to not have conceded when winning in the whole league though...although it might say more about how few wins we’ve had! I guess the acid test now for the side and Rooney as a manager is getting a win when we do fall behind...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: I guess the acid test now for the side and Rooney as a manager is getting a win when we do fall behind...... Maybe. Let's hope that remains unknown and we never fall behind again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Those stats are exactly what you’d expect to see in a team that can’t score goals. For us to get wins we have to keep a clean sheet, as we’re incapable of scoring more than one goal. And as soon as we go behind we’re ducked because we can’t score enough goals to make a comeback, nor do we have the ability to break a deep lying defence down. We won’t be able to go through the season scoring first every match, it’s just not going to happen. So we need to find a way to score more goals, so we can win games even when things don’t start perfectly. Only way to do that is by improving the squad before tomorrow’s deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Mckram said: Stats have a funny way of making it look easy. Pretty impressive that we’re the only team to not have conceded when winning in the whole league though...although it might say more about how few wins we’ve had! We have conceded when winning (as our multiple 1-1 draws evidence), though I know what you were meaning. I'd phrase it differently - we've not won any game in which we've conceded - which sounds a little less positive. Though I'd be quite happy for that to continue if we keep another 20 clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: I guess the acid test now for the side and Rooney as a manager is getting a win when we do fall behind...... Not sure I want to risk that in order to find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 We were leading against Forest, Cardiff, Bournemouth, Wycombe & Coventry but ended up 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Crazy said: We have conceded when winning (as our multiple 1-1 draws evidence), though I know what you were meaning. I'd phrase it differently - we've not won any game in which we've conceded - which sounds a little less positive. Though I'd be quite happy for that to continue if we keep another 20 clean sheets. 1 hour ago, SamUltraRam said: We were leading against Forest, Cardiff, Bournemouth, Wycombe & Coventry but ended up 1-1 Apologies - when I wrote not to have conceded when winning, I meant winning the game...not winning at a certain point in the game. My first post covered the 1-1 draws when I said we’ve not lost when scoring first. Although like you say Crazy, to say we’ve not won any game we’ve conceded sounds bad...and probably worst to say every game we’ve conceded first we’ve lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 31/01/2021 at 10:01, Mckram said: Just looking at our results this year and found the following: - Won 7 and not conceded a goal in any of these. - Lost 12 and only scored in 1 of these (Luton). - Drawn 7 with 2 clean sheets and 5 being 1-1 (we scored first in all 5). So every game we’ve scored first (12 games) we’ve not lost and every game we’ve conceded first (12 games) we’ve lost. Key to the rest of the season, don’t concede first! Just to update this now... - Lost 23 and only scored in 5 of these games. - Won 11 and conceded in 2 of them. - Drawn 10 and came from behind in only 2 of these (Forest and Brentford). Concede first we’ve taken 2 points. Score first we’ve taken 38 points. No goals in the game we’ve taken 3 points. Safe to say we need to score first in the next 2 games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 31/01/2021 at 10:01, Mckram said: Just looking at our results this year and found the following: - Won 7 and not conceded a goal in any of these. - Lost 12 and only scored in 1 of these (Luton). - Drawn 7 with 2 clean sheets and 5 being 1-1 (we scored first in all 5). So every game we’ve scored first (12 games) we’ve not lost and every game we’ve conceded first (12 games) we’ve lost. Key to the rest of the season, don’t concede first! Like v Brum on Saturday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I came across a pretty interesting stat today. Barring a massive win against Wednesday, this will be the first season ever in the history of the club that we will finish with a negative home goal difference when competing in the 2nd tier or lower. It will only be the 7th time this has happened altogether, the other six times being our last 4 Premier League campaigns and top flight relegations in 1991 and 1921. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Mckram said: Just to update this now... - Lost 23 and only scored in 5 of these games. - Won 11 and conceded in 2 of them. - Drawn 10 and came from behind in only 2 of these (Forest and Brentford). Concede first we’ve taken 2 points. Score first we’ve taken 38 points. No goals in the game we’ve taken 3 points. Safe to say we need to score first in the next 2 games! Need to score second too then we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 56 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Need to score second too then we have a chance. It would be nice if in one of the next two games we can score first, second and third. Am I being greedy wanting the fourth as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, richinspain said: It would be nice if in one of the next two games we can score first, second and third. Am I being greedy wanting the fourth as well? Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Like v Brum on Saturday ? Which just shows how our defence was once reliable of a sort and now we don’t even have that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Mckram said: Which just shows how our defence was once reliable of a sort and now we don’t even have that! Which exact defence did you mean, injuries have caused it to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Which exact defence did you mean, injuries have caused it to change? It was the defence from around December to late February where we were winning 1-0 each game with the odd better result. It all changed for me when Rooney made those big changes against Cardiff. Think Edmundson was at defensive midfield, Wisdom put out at right back and was it Mengi at CB? I’d love to see the stats with our different defences this season, but for me Evans was more than good enough as a fill in until the end of the season at the back. Could be argued we upset the balance of the team by all of the ins and outs in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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