Day Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 When Lampard signed on the dotted line, I doubt even in his wildest dreams he would have thought about being Chelsea manager the following summer. If any manager came to Derby in the Championship and sees this as the pinnacle of their career I wouldn't want them anywhere near the club. All managers should have the ambition to one day manage at the top of the Premier League. When you look at the names of managers being thrown about as possible Cocu replacements, not one of those would reject Chelsea if they came calling after 12 months, so accusing Lampard of only being here for the short term is incredibly harsh, especially when Cocu is already the 9th longest serving manager in the Championship having just started his 2nd season. Why should managers be thinking of a 5/10 year plan when clubs and fans are only willing to give them just over 18 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 11:05, David said: so accusing Lampard of only being here for the short term is incredibly harsh spot on and if he had won us promotion, I don't think he would have taken the Chelsea job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: spot on and if he had won us promotion, I don't think he would have taken the Chelsea job I'm not so sure. It would have been a strange situation nevertheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I'm not so sure. It would have been a strange situation nevertheless you're right we'll never know. There have been a few slips but on or off the pitch he's a guy who seems to have much more integrity than the average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I liked frank. we’ll never agree with every decision by any manager but I thought he was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 So much for him playing the kids at Chelsea. How much did he spend in the summer? £200 million + Please can we have Tomori back, and Abrahams if he's doing nothing and fancies a kick about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretDave Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I liked his when he was here. He annoyed me how long he dithered about the Chelsea job, totally screwing up our pre-season. I'm also annoyed he's never helped us out since leaving, surely he could have loaned us a couple of good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 He always had his sights higher than here EVEN IF HE HAD GOT US PROMOTED ...can't blame him for that Negatives losses to Burton ,Bolton , Rotherham Millwall and others of that calibre Not going for Tammy Abraham possibly he didn't want him Picking wrong side at Wembley Positives beating Man Utd ,Southampton , the hard luck story when playing Chelsea a few great league wins that season 2nd leg play off will always be remembered Reflecting back didn't do a bad job in his first ever management role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, neil62uk said: He always had his sights higher than here EVEN IF HE HAD GOT US PROMOTED ...can't blame him for that Negatives losses to Burton ,Bolton , Rotherham Millwall and others of that calibre Not going for Tammy Abraham possibly he didn't want him Picking wrong side at Wembley Positives beating Man Utd ,Southampton , the hard luck story when playing Chelsea a few great league wins that season 2nd leg play off will always be remembered Reflecting back didn't do a bad job in his first ever management role The two Burton defeats in 18/19 must have been so bad they've been removed completely from my memory. Our defeats under Frank were: Leeds x 3 Millwall x 2 Rotherham Bolton Villa x 3 Stoke Sheffield United Forest Blackburn Chelsea Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, Ghost of Clough said: The two Burton defeats in 18/19 must have been so bad they've been removed completely from my memory. Our defeats under Frank were: Leeds x 3 Millwall x 2 Rotherham Bolton Villa x 3 Stoke Sheffield United Forest Blackburn Chelsea Brighton To many defeats ... The burton away defeat 3 - 1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, neil62uk said: To many defeats ... The burton away defeat 3 - 1 ? Wrong season, wrong manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Wrong season, wrong manager Thank God for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 No he was a pure chancer who was reliant on 3 loan players mainly, signed alot of rubbish and contributed to where we are now. Can stuff his ducking bounce up where it doesn't shine. At the time I liked him being here despite some really shocking performances and poor tactics at times but looking at it now he has contributed to our league 1 bound state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: No he was a pure chancer who was reliant on 3 loan players mainly, signed alot of rubbish and contributed to where we are now. Can stuff his ducking bounce up where it doesn't shine. Well said... F - - k him the smarmy ****** him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, RamNut said: I liked frank. we’ll never agree with every decision by any manager but I thought he was good. Enjoyed the season for sure,and will never forget the night in Leeds for the play-off semi,however i still think the side he picked at Wembley was designed not to take us to the premier league as that would of cost Chelsea a hell of as lot more in compensation than we received for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I don't know if he was any good for us although the ride with him while it last until Wembley was exciting. If you look at it now he's definitely gained more out of his time and experience with us then we have from his legacy. Until we actually achieve promotion we will always be prone to manager using us a stepping stone to further their careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 21:12, kevinhectoring said: spot on and if he had won us promotion, I don't think he would have taken the Chelsea job all our promotion would have meant was that Fat Frank could have asked for a few more million pounds from Abramovic for his burger addiction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 13:37, Marriott Ram99 said: No he was a pure chancer who was reliant on 3 loan players mainly, signed alot of rubbish and contributed to where we are now. Can stuff his ducking bounce up where it doesn't shine. At the time I liked him being here despite some really shocking performances and poor tactics at times but looking at it now he has contributed to our league 1 bound state. On 11/11/2020 at 13:40, neil62uk said: Well said... F - - k him the smarmy ****** him ? Thats harsh lads. He brought in players because Mel allowed him to & he wanted to go up, as we all did. Can definitely criticise his signings in hindsight & the short termism of the loans but it was a gamble that I didnt see many questioning at the time. Obviously didnt pay off but our current financial woes were as much to do with Rowett's and Clement's reign. Id also point out the guy contributed 2k of his own money to contribute to Reg Harrison's memorial...the only ex-manager who put his hand in his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, LeedsCityRam said: Thats harsh lads. He brought in players because Mel allowed him to & he wanted to go up, as we all did. Can definitely criticise his signings in hindsight & the short termism of the loans but it was a gamble that I didnt see many questioning at the time. Obviously didnt pay off but our current financial woes were as much to do with Rowett's and Clement's reign. Id also point out the guy contributed 2k of his own money to contribute to Reg Harrison's memorial...the only ex-manager who put his hand in his pocket. Please read my first comments ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 19/10/2020 at 13:18, GlastoEls said: One of the most fun and memorable seasons in living memory for me. How old are you...4 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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