Archied Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Andicis said: It's really not crazy in the slightest, "take underperforming players out the team" wow, mental that mate. Yea let’s sign New player from a different country even ,throw them into an injury ravaged side with a new cb partner then drop them after 3 say again 3 games once our more clued up fans have labelled them not very good ,,, yea I’m proper crazy me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I think he will come good , lets not forget that his last competitive game was quite some time ago for his previous club , he is in a new country , new team mates. He might need a couple of games out the team or on the bench to observe how the leagues he has played in previously are different to the championship but i would hope that the backroom team will have him watching tape of past games and he will pick it up quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Archied said: Yea let’s sign New player from a different country even ,throw them into an injury ravaged side with a new cb partner then drop them after 3 say again 3 games once our more clued up fans have labelled them not very good ,,, yea I’m proper crazy me? Never called you crazy, it was the other way around. In football you either hit the ground running or you ride the bench for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Or we could just label him not very good ,sick him in the reserves , get on his back anytime he gets a shot ,pay his wages for 3 years then give him away ,, seems the Derby way on the other hand we could could give him a run of games, get behind him as fans and see if we have a player i know which one I go for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 16/09/2020 at 13:23, LeedsCityRam said: Also recall Clarke & Tomori having some pretty dicey opening first few games for - sure Te Wierik will come good just like they did. And Curtis Davies. I remember being really disappointed by his first few performances, but he went on to be our best player in his debut season for my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Derby-county-transfers-te-wierik-4808599 Aka albentosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 No surprise when he’s clearly so far away from the first team picture. Seems very bizzare for him not to be involved at all at the moment though, with us so short on centre backs. The bloke came with a good reputation, and has barely been given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Seems very bizzare for him not to be involved at all at the moment though, with us so short on centre backs. Suggests he's not even as good as Evans. That should tell you all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Shame for him, never worked. Be a decent profit if we can actually get money for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Suggests he's not even as good as Evans. That should tell you all you need to know. Depends if you trust the opinions of those making the judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Millenniumram said: Depends if you trust the opinions of those making the judgement. What other judgement is there that makes any sense? A player who has spent all his career playing a different style of football - even he commented about it. Why be surprised he can't adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: No surprise when he’s clearly so far away from the first team picture. Seems very bizzare for him not to be involved at all at the moment though, with us so short on centre backs. The bloke came with a good reputation, and has barely been given a chance. In what way is it bizarre? We've conceded 1 shot in 3 games and kept clean sheets in our last 4. Even without commenting on Te Wierik's ability, it's clear we don't have a problem defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Wouldn’t be surprised if something wasn’t already sorted seeing as he isn’t even making the u23 squads now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What other judgement is there that makes any sense? A player who has spent all his career playing a different style of football - even he commented about it. Why be surprised he can't adapt. That maybe he’s been judged too harshly on the back of a couple of poor performances from the entire team early in the season? It might be the case that he can’t adapt, but he hasn’t really been given the chance to try. I’d suggest he’d do a lot better in the current side than the one early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Andicis said: In what way is it bizarre? We've conceded 1 shot in 3 games and kept clean sheets in our last 4. Even without commenting on Te Wierik's ability, it's clear we don't have a problem defensively. We don’t have a problem at the moment you’re right, and I’m certainly not calling for him to be starting. But with Davies injured, we are very short on other CB options. All we’ve got on the bench is Evans, who we’ve established isn’t exactly fantastic at centre half. Seems bizzare for Te Weirik to not be on the bench in case Wisdom gets injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Millenniumram said: We don’t have a problem at the moment you’re right, and I’m certainly not calling for him to be starting. But with Davies injured, we are very short on other CB options. All we’ve got on the bench is Evans, who we’ve established isn’t exactly fantastic at centre half. Seems bizzare for Te Weirik to not be on the bench in case Wisdom gets injured. Fozzy can cover centre half. Buchanan probably could do it too, we also have some academy players that can fill in. It's clear Rooney doesn't rate Te Wierik, there is nothing really bizarre about it, the manager just doesn't think he's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Would be good to get him off the wages and make a profit it on him. However, my main concern is that he is our only natural centre back contracted beyond this summer. If he goes, and with Davies out, we need at least 1 centre back in on a permanent in Jan. Evans can be 4th choice til the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Wouldn’t be surprised if something wasn’t already sorted seeing as he isn’t even making the u23 squads now. With what his agent has said it looks like there could be. Most importantly there are clubs interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Fozzy can cover centre half. Buchanan probably could do it too, we also have some academy players that can fill in. It's clear Rooney doesn't rate Te Wierik, there is nothing really bizarre about it, the manager just doesn't think he's good enough. Fozzy definitely can’t. I’d rather see Claude Davis back, even at his age, than watch that disaster again. Buchanan probably could in an emergency, but I’d rather have him where he’s comfortable, and excelling for that matter. It just doesn’t make any sense to me why we wouldn’t involve someone who is natural centre back, and has top flight experience, within the squad when we’re so short on other options. He’s got to be better than someone from the U23’s. The fact that Rooney doesn’t rate him, despite never trying him, is what seems bizzare to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Millenniumram said: Fozzy definitely can’t. I’d rather see Claude Davis back, even at his age, than watch that disaster again. Buchanan probably could in an emergency, but I’d rather have him where he’s comfortable, and excelling for that matter. It just doesn’t make any sense to me why we wouldn’t involve someone who is natural centre back, and has top flight experience, within the squad when we’re so short on other options. He’s got to be better than someone from the U23’s. The fact that Rooney doesn’t rate him, despite never trying him, is what seems bizzare to me. Rooney has played with him and trained with him for most of the year, I’d imagine he’d have a pretty good scope on his abilities by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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