richinspain Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, jkew31 said: Any idea who this is? Was in Little Eaton Starbucks this morning Could it be a Leeds fan who was passing through Little Eaton and fancied a coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkew31 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, richinspain said: Could it be a Leeds fan who was passing through Little Eaton and fancied a coffee? Was a bit strange that he had full tracksuit on, with Leeds t shirt underneath and got into a Range Rover afterwards as well. Looked too much like a footballer to be a fan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, jkew31 said: Any idea who this is? Was in Little Eaton Starbucks this morning Their new spy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, richinspain said: Could it be a Leeds fan who was passing through Little Eaton and fancied a coffee? Full kit banker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Full kit banker. Fan or player, fits in both cases! Even more so as it's Leeds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 How embarrassing is this, from having a mare vs our under 23's to the England squad. Surely this has to be paper rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I think he's a quality player, but talk of an England call up is crazy with all the talented young English midfielders playing week in, week out in the Premier League. Mind you, they called up Mount last season, which I said was a farce at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Anon said: I think he's a quality player, but talk of an England call up is crazy with all the talented young English midfielders playing week in, week out in the Premier League. Mind you, they called up Mount last season, which I said was a farce at the time. Not sure he's even that quality. He's reckless, his passing isn't fantastic and when the opposition ups the tempo he gets bypassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Took long enough. Over 5 months!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 That’s going to actually improve them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 25/02/2020 at 17:57, Anon said: I think he's a quality player, but talk of an England call up is crazy with all the talented young English midfielders playing week in, week out in the Premier League. Mind you, they called up Mount last season, which I said was a farce at the time. Meh. If he gets an England call-up then it only strengthens my conviction that Thorne would have pissed into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, ThePrisoner said: Ah, I see he's wheeling out the old 'it's not words it's the intent behind them' argument but I guess in this instance, other credible defences are a tad thin on the ground. And as if his mealy-mouthed protestation of innocence is not enough reason to find him somewhat loathsome, he goes and doubles-down with the other classic 'racism 101' tactic of portraying himself as the victim, saying 'I feel truly sad and devastated for being accused of making a supposedly racist'. I wonder if one day, instead of all the usual BS someone might just man the duck up and say, 'I said it in the heat of the moment but that's no excuse and I apologise unreservedly to (insert name) and to the club and fans who pay my wages. I'll be better'. I think people would actually respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 9 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Ah, I see he's wheeling out the old 'it's not words it's the intent behind them' argument but I guess in this instance, other credible defences are a tad thin on the ground. And as if his mealy-mouthed protestation of innocence is not enough reason to find him somewhat loathsome, he goes and doubles-down with the other classic 'racism 101' tactic of portraying himself as the victim, saying 'I feel truly sad and devastated for being accused of making a supposedly racist'. I wonder if one day, instead of all the usual BS someone might just man the duck up and say, 'I said it in the heat of the moment but that's no excuse and I apologise unreservedly to (insert name) and to the club and fans who pay my wages. I'll be better'. I think people would actually respect that. For me its still a tough one, would be interesting to read the report on this. Leeds are saying hes been found guilty based on the balance of probability rather than proof. Do we now automatically assume someone is guilty if accused? I took the time to read the report on the lad from Burton a few years back who was found guilty and the report actually says a number of times about the evidence against him not being very credible, including the person he was accused of racially abusing but they still found him guilty, seemed like they were looking for a reason to find him guilty but not one to find him not guilty. Anyone who racially abuses someone should be punished heavily, but we should also be sure we don't have a chelsea/clattenburg situation where someone was accused just because a scoreline didnt go their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Paul71 said: For me its still a tough one, would be interesting to read the report on this. Leeds are saying hes been found guilty based on the balance of probability rather than proof. Do we now automatically assume someone is guilty if accused? I took the time to read the report on the lad from Burton a few years back who was found guilty and the report actually says a number of times about the evidence against him not being very credible, including the person he was accused of racially abusing but they still found him guilty, seemed like they were looking for a reason to find him guilty but not one to find him not guilty. Anyone who racially abuses someone should be punished heavily, but we should also be sure we don't have a chelsea/clattenburg situation where someone was accused just because a scoreline didnt go their way. Balance of probabilities is used in UK Employment Law to determine an outcome so why shouldn't it be used in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 15 hours ago, ThePrisoner said: Ramage gets vilified & dropped by Radio Derby (his media career is almost certainly over) whilst he gets banned for 8 games & fined, what is to him, peanuts?????? Just saying!!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I don’t think anyone actually believes Craig Ramage is a racist or intended to make an offensive comment. total over-reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gisby said: Ramage gets vilified & dropped by Radio Derby (his media career is almost certainly over) whilst he gets banned for 8 games & fined, what is to him, peanuts?????? Just saying!!! ? Did his media career actually ever start though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Did his media career actually ever start though? Well I assume he was paid by radio Derby. When comparing each crime are the punishments equitable? That’s all I’m asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Gisby said: Debatable I agree but when comparing each crime are punishments equitable? That’s my question. He got a few gigs as a summariser on a local radio station so don't think what happened to him affected his chances of being the next Howard Stern...or more appropriately Alan Partridge. My only comment on this would be the response from Leeds saying they didn't agree that the outcome should have been based on the Balance of Probabilities....well tough UK Employment Law is based on the Balance of Probabilities to decide an outcome so has been deemed in Law as being perfectly acceptable to make a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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